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Re: Grant Williams improving as a 3 and D
« Reply #30 on: February 06, 2021, 06:01:47 PM »

Offline JumpingJudkins

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I think the Real Plus Minus numbers don't reflect how well Grant Williams has played lately, and honestly he looks like a plus defender to me overall.

That said, while we're talking about RPM, I would like the astonishingly large number of people on here calling for the Celtics to go after Old Grant Williams -- i.e. PJ Tucker -- to look at how wretched Tucker has been this season.

Playing over 30 minutes a game, Tucker has managed a rousing -5.01 RPM, which is fourth-worst (out of 456 players) in the entire league. No amount of intangibles can make up for that. The man is old and terrible. Yes, he used to be useful, but he is cooked now. I would not trade Grant for him straight up. The TPE has to be able to bring in someone better.

Re: Grant Williams improving as a 3 and D
« Reply #31 on: February 06, 2021, 06:20:06 PM »

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I think the Real Plus Minus numbers don't reflect how well Grant Williams has played lately, and honestly he looks like a plus defender to me overall.

That said, while we're talking about RPM, I would like the astonishingly large number of people on here calling for the Celtics to go after Old Grant Williams -- i.e. PJ Tucker -- to look at how wretched Tucker has been this season.

Playing over 30 minutes a game, Tucker has managed a rousing -5.01 RPM, which is fourth-worst (out of 456 players) in the entire league. No amount of intangibles can make up for that. The man is old and terrible. Yes, he used to be useful, but he is cooked now. I would not trade Grant for him straight up. The TPE has to be able to bring in someone better.

Absolutely, I agree with you. TP. I'm not a big Grant Williams fan and I have no problem with trading him, but we shouldn't give up any assets for PJ Tucker. The guy is 35 and only because of the genius James Harden he looked passable on offense.

Re: Grant Williams improving as a 3 and D
« Reply #32 on: February 06, 2021, 06:36:42 PM »

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I think the Real Plus Minus numbers don't reflect how well Grant Williams has played lately, and honestly he looks like a plus defender to me overall.

That said, while we're talking about RPM, I would like the astonishingly large number of people on here calling for the Celtics to go after Old Grant Williams -- i.e. PJ Tucker -- to look at how wretched Tucker has been this season.

Playing over 30 minutes a game, Tucker has managed a rousing -5.01 RPM, which is fourth-worst (out of 456 players) in the entire league. No amount of intangibles can make up for that. The man is old and terrible. Yes, he used to be useful, but he is cooked now. I would not trade Grant for him straight up. The TPE has to be able to bring in someone better.

Absolutely, I agree with you. TP. I'm not a big Grant Williams fan and I have no problem with trading him, but we shouldn't give up any assets for PJ Tucker. The guy is 35 and only because of the genius James Harden he looked passable on offense.

Agreed on not wanting PJ Tucker. He’s a shell of himself. I’d rather have Grant Williams as he is at least shooting well. Tucker should retire.
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