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Re: The last dance.. len bias
« Reply #15 on: April 25, 2020, 12:11:31 AM »

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A lot of what ifs in that whole ordeal.  Obviously a real shame Bias succumbed to his demons and who knows what might have been had he not.


Was it ever established whether Bias' cocaine use was a one-time celebration incident or whether he was a regular user or was he an occasional user ? Was the batch he and his friends got that night especially strong or did Bias, as a first time user, simply have no tolerance built up for the drug ?

Yeah, I’m not sure of this answer, either.  Did he have demons, or was he doing the same thing a lot of rich people were doing?  Jordan confirms the Bulls had cocaine parties, for instance.

Was Jordan's admission presented in this recent documentary "Last Dance" or did you read that elsewhere ? Did Jordan say that he joined in using cocaine with his teammates. Surprised he would taint his carefully managed image like that as well as threatening his health/fitness for basketball.

I won't be watching the espn doc -  Just never have been a Jordan fan and I believe the Bulls accomplishments during the relatively weak decade of the 90's are over-rated. I do not believe that group wins even one title if they had existed during the 80's.
Dude, I understand that sentiment that the Bulls teams wouldn't have been as successful if they played in the 80s (even if I disagree), but to say they wouldn't even win one title is a bit ridiculous.

Dude, I am not the only one who has stated this opinion. I remember Mike & Mike on their morning ESPN show talking about how the Celtics/Lakers of the 80's "would have mopped the floor" with the 90's Bulls teams. Not saying the Mike's are NBA experts - just pointing out that my opinion is not a reach by any means. Did you see the NBA 80's and 90's decades ?

Regarding Moranis' comment on the 70's, I would say the late 70's were weak. But the early 70's, I always thought were very tough. The '73 Celts still hold the franchise record for wins and would have repeated if not for Hondo's shoulder injury during the '73 ECF. The '71 champion Bucks had Jabbar and Oscar Robertson. The two Knicks teams that won included Frazier, Monroe, DeBusschere, Bradley and Willis Reed. Of course, the Lakers with Wilt and Jerry West finally won a title after winning 33 straight during the regular season. The Bullets, Warriors, Bulls and Pistons all had formidable teams during that era.
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Re: The last dance.. len bias
« Reply #16 on: April 25, 2020, 12:24:39 AM »

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I think the prime Jordan Bulls could have gotten by the Pistons, potentially winning in ‘89.  I do agree that they weren’t as good as most of the great 80s teams, though.  The 90s were a relatively weak era, where teams with only one or two great players routinely made the Finals.


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