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Re: Celtics shooting 40.1% as a team
« Reply #15 on: October 31, 2019, 11:50:52 PM »

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Against quality defenses, especially opponents that have a lot of size / long arms, the Celts are going to struggle.

Teams will size are feasting on us.

Are they? We are 3-1. We lost to the favorite for top seed in the East on their home floor and we’ve played three playoff teams.

I would definitely like to be better at the five, but to me the surprise of the season so far is that we are actually not getting killed on D. im wondering more if the success is sustainable.

I think it's sustainable.

This season's Celts team is more active and relentless in pursuing the ball.

Last season the Celts were looking like an old team.

Hope so. I may be overreacting to the last game, with Kanter and Jaylen out. The defense was sensational, but that takes a lot of sustained, high-energy effort from the while team. Guys like Theis constantly giving up weight and height to players like GIannis and Lopez, wrestling and scrapping for position. Kemba and Smart defending the post.

Most teams play small ball at the end of games; over a limited time energy overcomes size. But size and height doesn’t get tired, and fighting it can take a toll. It’ll be less uneven when K and J are back.

Re: Celtics shooting 40.1% as a team
« Reply #16 on: November 01, 2019, 02:09:41 PM »

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The craziest thing to me is Tatum can't make a 2 point shot to save his life but is shooting like 48 percent from 3 on 7 attempts a game. He would make the all star team if he literally just took 3's from here on out.

Re: Celtics shooting 40.1% as a team
« Reply #17 on: November 01, 2019, 04:15:41 PM »

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The craziest thing to me is Tatum can't make a 2 point shot to save his life but is shooting like 48 percent from 3 on 7 attempts a game. He would make the all star team if he literally just took 3's from here on out.

It doesn't seem possible that his current interior scoring percentages are in any way sustainable.  He's going to start finishing better.

By the same token, he's not going to keep shooting close to 50% on threes.  Although he does have a pretty long track record of being a very good three point shooter.
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Re: Celtics shooting 40.1% as a team
« Reply #18 on: November 02, 2019, 11:20:30 AM »

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The craziest thing to me is Tatum can't make a 2 point shot to save his life but is shooting like 48 percent from 3 on 7 attempts a game. He would make the all star team if he literally just took 3's from here on out.

It doesn't seem possible that his current interior scoring percentages are in any way sustainable.  He's going to start finishing better.

By the same token, he's not going to keep shooting close to 50% on threes.  Although he does have a pretty long track record of being a very good three point shooter.

Yeah, its a small sample size. So the law of averages says that tatum will creep up to his career averages and will start finishing those layups.

Re: Celtics shooting 40.1% as a team
« Reply #19 on: November 02, 2019, 11:34:34 AM »

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The craziest thing to me is Tatum can't make a 2 point shot to save his life but is shooting like 48 percent from 3 on 7 attempts a game. He would make the all star team if he literally just took 3's from here on out.

It doesn't seem possible that his current interior scoring percentages are in any way sustainable.  He's going to start finishing better.

By the same token, he's not going to keep shooting close to 50% on threes.  Although he does have a pretty long track record of being a very good three point shooter.

He seems to really hate contact; always looking to hurry to the rim and beat the contest or if he can’t to go over it. He’s got to figure out his other options and until he does that % is going to stay low. I think he can get it - some jump stops into short Js or changes of pace to shake his defender, maybe an upfake that draws a foul. Just going to take him a little while to figure it out. For now he’s missing shots inside because they’re hard shots and he’s not composed.

Re: Celtics shooting 40.1% as a team
« Reply #20 on: November 04, 2019, 12:10:05 PM »

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Through 5 games, the C's top two scorers (Kemba and Tatum) are shooting just 40%. That's not going to continue.
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Re: Celtics shooting 40.1% as a team
« Reply #21 on: November 04, 2019, 01:55:07 PM »

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I think Celtic fans may have forgotten that CBS teams typically started the year shooting poorly. This didn't happen too much the last two seasons.

I'm not going to dig into the stats right now to prove this. Someone else can or I will try to later. But in his first 4 seasons, players like Bradley, Crowder, Thomas, Sullinger, Olynyk, and Turner always seemed to start the year slowly. I remember fondly all the trade ideas to get shooters on our roster in the early parts of each season.

But as the year goes on, the Cs get into rhythm in their offense and start making shots.

One of the things I've learned from watching CBS style is that shooting percentages don't always correlate to wins. Playing the game the right way with discipline and effort and unselfishness leads to wins.

Re: Celtics shooting 40.1% as a team
« Reply #22 on: November 04, 2019, 02:04:31 PM »

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FG% is a misleading stat. It’s better to separate out 2’s and 3’s.

The Celtics have shot .350 from 3, which is 13th in the league.

.460 from 2, which is 28th. There’s where the breakdown is.

Boston’s eFG% is currently .486, which is 24th. That’s a better stat than FG%.

In total offense they’re at 104.3 points per 100 possessions, which is 15th. The big difference is turnovers; they lead the league with only 10.1%.

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Re: Celtics shooting 40.1% as a team
« Reply #23 on: November 04, 2019, 02:08:59 PM »

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FG% is a misleading stat. It’s better to separate out 2’s and 3’s.

The Celtics have shot .350 from 3, which is 13th in the league.

.460 from 2, which is 28th. There’s where the breakdown is.

Boston’s eFG% is currently .486, which is 24th. That’s a better stat than FG%.

In total offense they’re at 104.3 points per 100 possessions, which is 15th. The big difference is turnovers; they lead the league with only 10.1%.

Even more specifically, the breakdown is Tatum being ice cold from 2. The rest of the team is shooting over 49% inside the arc, while he's taking the most shots and only making 35%. There's no way that continues.