How Many More Years Do We Give Ainge to Win a Championship?

[NKY fan]

I think the idea of giving Ainge a specific amount of years to win a championship is flawed. You can't just say "you have x amount of years to win a ring or else", as there is no way to account for things like injury, or the rise of a new dynasty (like a San Antonio or a Golden State).

True.

What's important is Ainge is going in the right direction and the Celts are fun to watch.

This summer is a perfect example of how Ainge turned a bad situation into a good situation.

Celts lost Kyrie and Horford in free-agency and Anthony Davis didn't want to come to Boston.
There were rumors that the Celts were going to start from scratch and build around Tatum and Brown.
But Ainge made a brilliant move by replacing Kyrie with Kemba.
It's brilliant because Ainge made sure the Celts would still be in the hunt this coming season.
One more move and the Celts could be right back to being a contender.
Overall Ainge is doing a good job.

You mean hunt for home court in 1st round of playoffs?
Also what kind of move do you think Ainge can make?
Obviously no team is valuing the Celtics assets the way the fans and Ainge do.
Hayward is untouchable , Washington will not trade Beal for the Memphis pick.
The only hope is that brown and Tatum burst into stardom and that’s not likely.
To me it seems we are destined to be 3-6 seed in the foreseeable future with no hope of improving

[GreenlyGreeny]

Is it really that outlandish to imagine a basketball savant like Bobby Webster, the true genius behind the Raptors, wanting to come to Titletown? All Wyc has to do is tell Ainge to save face by saying he is retiring for health reasons.

One title in nearly 20 years, a fifth of a century, just does not cut it. We have just as many titles as the Raptors since the inauguration season of the Raptors. Come on, man...

That said, Kyrie is not Ainge’s fault. It was the smart play, and who could have imagined he would be THAT weird? Kyrie’s the michael Jackson of the NBA. But three more years to get a championship or a real rebuild with a change in leadership, I’d say. Harvard and MIT consultants can certainly help Wyc land the next wiz kids...

We’re the Celtics and, unfortunately, the 2010s produced as many titles as the 1990s: Zero. I remember the dark era of the 1990s, but losing is losing. In fact, I’d rather stink than go through last year again.

It should have been a three-peat from 2008-2010, but we got the injury bug and the refs rigged 2010 for LA. If we had won two titles even, I’d say give it to Ainge for life. But this is Titletown...

[GreenlyGreeny]

I think the idea of giving Ainge a specific amount of years to win a championship is flawed. You can't just say "you have x amount of years to win a ring or else", as there is no way to account for things like injury, or the rise of a new dynasty (like a San Antonio or a Golden State).

True.

What's important is Ainge is going in the right direction and the Celts are fun to watch.

This summer is a perfect example of how Ainge turned a bad situation into a good situation.

Celts lost Kyrie and Horford in free-agency and Anthony Davis didn't want to come to Boston.
There were rumors that the Celts were going to start from scratch and build around Tatum and Brown.
But Ainge made a brilliant move by replacing Kyrie with Kemba.
It's brilliant because Ainge made sure the Celts would still be in the hunt this coming season.
One more move and the Celts could be right back to being a contender.
Overall Ainge is doing a good job.

You mean hunt for home court in 1st round of playoffs?
Also what kind of move do you think Ainge can make?
Obviously no team is valuing the Celtics assets the way the fans and Ainge do.
Hayward is untouchable , Washington will not trade Beal for the Memphis pick.
The only hope is that brown and Tatum burst into stardom and that’s not likely.
To me it seems we are destined to be 3-6 seed in the foreseeable future with no hope of improving

I hate to say it, but I see it this way, too. I think we’ve got to dump Brown for cheaper talent or we’re essentially betting EVERYTHING on Jaylen becoming a superstar. After Brown’s shenanigans with Kyrie, and his regression compared to the 2018 playoffs, I’m extremely skeptical and think it’s way too high risk. In contrast, we can dump Brown for cheaper talent, and have enough cap space in 2021 to land one of the max players then subsequently resign Tatum. That’s our likeliest path to title contention in 2021-2022, Ainge’s make-or-break year IMHO. The second likeliest path, which seems unlikely to me, is Tatum and Brown both bursting into stardom. The third path is the Memphis pick turning into a transcendent talent. Given Ainge’s track record with drafting, I’m not hopeful of that.

I say steal one of the draft/personnel wizards of Toronto or Denver if we don’t have a title by 2022. CBS stays, though, since he deserves a second chance with another GM, and gave up a lot to come here to begin with.

[td450]

If you consistently give up on anyone who isn't obviously a superstar by 22, you are reducing your odds to almost nothing.

Seeing Brown though next year hardly is risking everything. He may not end up being a superstar, but he's certainly going to improve significantly, and at minimum be a borderline all-star. If we ultimately move him, we will not get that much less by waiting, and we may even get more.

The only conceivable ways to win a championship is to have some players exceed expectations, or to have an MVP candidate have some fantasy about living in your city. Boston is one of the world's great cities, but we don't attract great players that way. So we need a bit of patience to have a chance.

[Bobshot]

Hayward threw Ainge off track. It has been a nightmare for both.

The only hope near term is if Hayward comes back to form.