Author Topic: AD dropped the 'I dont care what anyone else thinks' card at Laker intro  (Read 5815 times)

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Offline greg683x

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He shouldn't care what anyone else thinks. This is ultimately his career, his livelihood and his happiness.

He didn't want to be a Celtic and that's his prerogative. Get over it.

Yeah .... he shouldnt care who pays his bills just like his cohort Kyrie the other ...I dont care what anybody thinks guy. You seem to like malcontent players.

I do not have anything to get over because I never thought AD moved the needle for the Celtics.

It's not about liking malcontent players, but I'm a realist. This is a business and these players should absolutely do what's best for them as the franchises do. They are not slaves, they have thoughts, opinions, desires and ambitions.

And here's the harsh truth: his pockets aren't in jeopardy in the slightest. Actually, he's likely going to get far more endorsement opportunities in LA than he did in NOLA. AD made a shrewd business move to get to his desired destination. Sometimes, good business and public perception don't go hand in hand. Quite frankly, I doubt his public persona takes a hit at all outside of a few whiny Celtics fans because let's be honest, this thread wouldn't exist if he made these comments at a Celtics introductory press conference.

He signed a contractual agreement with New Orleans committing to play for them through 2020, then reneged on that promise by quitting on the team with a year and a half left and demanding that he be traded like a petulant child. This is nothing to be admired.

is this a whole lot different than when a team chooses to trade a player it signed to a contract??

the player chose to sign a deal with that team for 4 years, but the team decides it likes another player better 2 years in and decides to send the player to a team that the player had NO say in going to and could quite possibly have never signed the deal having know he'd end up there to begin with.

i agree that Davis handled this situation immaturely, but the double standard here is crazy.

im not advocating for players to demand trades, but there needs to be more of a common ground

Did you ever read an NBA contract?  It provides the team the right to trade the player. The player BEFORE signing this has agreed to this. If he didn’t agree to it he doesn’t have to sign the contract. Some players negotiate not to be traded before signing it like  Carmelo Anthony with the Knicks. The contract does not say that the player has the right to stop playing or demand to be traded. Effectively that is why most contracts for great players give the player an option to terminate a year early. These are the rules of the collective bargaining agreement, negotiated between players and owners.

yes in terms of black and white, youre absolutely right, but we dont live in a perfect world.

there are times owners and GMs operate in a way that treat these players like commodities instead of people, demanding trades is a players way of taking the power back. 

is it right?  no absolutely not, but you cant tell me there are owners and GMs out there that operate outside of the rules written in black and white as well
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He shouldn't care what anyone else thinks. This is ultimately his career, his livelihood and his happiness.

He didn't want to be a Celtic and that's his prerogative. Get over it.

Yeah .... he shouldnt care who pays his bills just like his cohort Kyrie the other ...I dont care what anybody thinks guy. You seem to like malcontent players.

I do not have anything to get over because I never thought AD moved the needle for the Celtics.

It's not about liking malcontent players, but I'm a realist. This is a business and these players should absolutely do what's best for them as the franchises do. They are not slaves, they have thoughts, opinions, desires and ambitions.

And here's the harsh truth: his pockets aren't in jeopardy in the slightest. Actually, he's likely going to get far more endorsement opportunities in LA than he did in NOLA. AD made a shrewd business move to get to his desired destination. Sometimes, good business and public perception don't go hand in hand. Quite frankly, I doubt his public persona takes a hit at all outside of a few whiny Celtics fans because let's be honest, this thread wouldn't exist if he made these comments at a Celtics introductory press conference.

He signed a contractual agreement with New Orleans committing to play for them through 2020, then reneged on that promise by quitting on the team with a year and a half left and demanding that he be traded like a petulant child. This is nothing to be admired.

is this a whole lot different than when a team chooses to trade a player it signed to a contract??

the player chose to sign a deal with that team for 4 years, but the team decides it likes another player better 2 years in and decides to send the player to a team that the player had NO say in going to and could quite possibly have never signed the deal having know he'd end up there to begin with.

i agree that Davis handled this situation immaturely, but the double standard here is crazy.

im not advocating for players to demand trades, but there needs to be more of a common ground

Did you ever read an NBA contract?  It provides the team the right to trade the player. The player BEFORE signing this has agreed to this. If he didn’t agree to it he doesn’t have to sign the contract. Some players negotiate not to be traded before signing it like  Carmelo Anthony with the Knicks. The contract does not say that the player has the right to stop playing or demand to be traded. Effectively that is why most contracts for great players give the player an option to terminate a year early. These are the rules of the collective bargaining agreement, negotiated between players and owners.
AD didn't stop playing for NOP until after NOP decided it was in their best interest to shut him down.  Players have the right to ask to be traded.  The team doesn't have to accommodate them.  I don't recall anyone on hear complaining about AD asking to be traded when it looked like we were in the best position to get him. 

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In response to a question about his thoughts on the new player empowerment and player movement in the NBA. He said he had been used to people telling him what to do and where to go, and that once he got older he wanted to take control of his own career and once he made that decision he did not care what anyone else thought.

someone should really teach these player the art of PR and communication. They should be reminded that the NBA is an entertainment business. It is not all about winning championships or rings. It is first and foremost about entertainment and once you start this I dont care what anyone thinks attitude you risk alienating the fans that pay your bills.
It's only entertainment because competition exists. Without the competition, there is no entertainment. Heck, even pro wrestling, in order to maintain their entertainment fake competition. Sorry, but the NBA is all about great competition(the winning of games, titles, championships, trophies and rings) that creates the entertainment.

And players are basically independent contractors. They are, first and foremost, participating in the competition of the NBA, to earn money and they should look to maximize their earnings while doing so in an environment they seem makes them happy. They really shouldn't worry about what the average NBA fan cares.

And as for who pays their paychecks, I am guessing the people who pay all that money to the Lakers, don't have a problem with what Davis just said. And, people who don't like what he said, are going to pay money to their team to be in the building to boo the crap out of Davis because he is now an antagonist to their team's protagonist(what the hell, as long as the NBA is entertainment, might as well go there). All great entertainment needs great antagonists. Now Davis is one. That's good for the NBA.