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Re: NBA Season 2022-23
« Reply #2610 on: March 18, 2023, 04:42:27 PM »

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If Lillard cared about winning, wouldnít he have asked out of Portland by now? Surely he realizes that they arenít contending anytime soon. Same goes for Beal.
Lillard literally addresses people like you making this argument in his appearance on Redick's podcast

He thinks the league has changed and that it hasnít always been about winning championships/rings?  :laugh:  Canít believe people wanted to trade JB for Dame.  Heís definitely not built for Boston.

https://twitter.com/jj_redick/status/1635713290751053824?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1635713290751053824%7Ctwgr%5E424fbf5877e90b064c94fd7aea00ef0aa9a3da8a%7Ctwcon%5Es1_c10&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fd-36633314493271032664.ampproject.net%2F2302271541000%2Fframe.html
If that is your takeaway...

It is not some weird binary thing. You can (obviously, I would have thought) be competitive and want to win, whilst staying loyal to your team.

We laud and adore great players who stay loyal to successful teams, yet laugh at those who stay loyal to teams that falter - why?

I donít think many would call Dame disloyal at this point in his career if he wanted to go to another team to compete for a championship. The farthest that Portland has made it in the 11 years heís been there was the conference finals (once) where they received a gentleman sweep from GS. Blazers arenít even a playoff team this year and Lillard likely only has a few more years in his prime as small guards typically donít age well.

My takeaway from the interview is that he enjoys living in Portland and is very comfortable there. Those appear to be the most important things to him, competing for a championship seems secondary. I also get the impression that he doesnít want the pressure and noise that comes along with playing for a contending team. He seems content being in a small market.
What on earth is this psychology-via-screen? Absurd

Itís called reading between the lines, GoukiÖ  ::)
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At some point you have to blame the performance on the court on the players on the court. Every loss is not the coach's fault and every win isn't because of the players.

Re: NBA Season 2022-23
« Reply #2611 on: March 18, 2023, 05:04:09 PM »

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If Lillard cared about winning, wouldnít he have asked out of Portland by now? Surely he realizes that they arenít contending anytime soon. Same goes for Beal.
Lillard literally addresses people like you making this argument in his appearance on Redick's podcast

He thinks the league has changed and that it hasnít always been about winning championships/rings?  :laugh:  Canít believe people wanted to trade JB for Dame.  Heís definitely not built for Boston.

https://twitter.com/jj_redick/status/1635713290751053824?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1635713290751053824%7Ctwgr%5E424fbf5877e90b064c94fd7aea00ef0aa9a3da8a%7Ctwcon%5Es1_c10&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fd-36633314493271032664.ampproject.net%2F2302271541000%2Fframe.html
If that is your takeaway...

It is not some weird binary thing. You can (obviously, I would have thought) be competitive and want to win, whilst staying loyal to your team.

We laud and adore great players who stay loyal to successful teams, yet laugh at those who stay loyal to teams that falter - why?

I donít think many would call Dame disloyal at this point in his career if he wanted to go to another team to compete for a championship. The farthest that Portland has made it in the 11 years heís been there was the conference finals (once) where they received a gentleman sweep from GS. Blazers arenít even a playoff team this year and Lillard likely only has a few more years in his prime as small guards typically donít age well.

My takeaway from the interview is that he enjoys living in Portland and is very comfortable there. Those appear to be the most important things to him, competing for a championship seems secondary. I also get the impression that he doesnít want the pressure and noise that comes along with playing for a contending team. He seems content being in a small market.
What on earth is this psychology-via-screen? Absurd

Itís called reading between the lines, GoukiÖ  ::)
No, itís called pretending to know how somebody works from your preconceptions about how they ought to behave. Newsflash: not everyone is the same.

Re: NBA Season 2022-23
« Reply #2612 on: March 18, 2023, 05:32:16 PM »

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If Lillard cared about winning, wouldnít he have asked out of Portland by now? Surely he realizes that they arenít contending anytime soon. Same goes for Beal.
Lillard literally addresses people like you making this argument in his appearance on Redick's podcast

He thinks the league has changed and that it hasnít always been about winning championships/rings?  :laugh:  Canít believe people wanted to trade JB for Dame.  Heís definitely not built for Boston.

https://twitter.com/jj_redick/status/1635713290751053824?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1635713290751053824%7Ctwgr%5E424fbf5877e90b064c94fd7aea00ef0aa9a3da8a%7Ctwcon%5Es1_c10&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fd-36633314493271032664.ampproject.net%2F2302271541000%2Fframe.html
If that is your takeaway...

It is not some weird binary thing. You can (obviously, I would have thought) be competitive and want to win, whilst staying loyal to your team.

We laud and adore great players who stay loyal to successful teams, yet laugh at those who stay loyal to teams that falter - why?

I donít think many would call Dame disloyal at this point in his career if he wanted to go to another team to compete for a championship. The farthest that Portland has made it in the 11 years heís been there was the conference finals (once) where they received a gentleman sweep from GS. Blazers arenít even a playoff team this year and Lillard likely only has a few more years in his prime as small guards typically donít age well.

My takeaway from the interview is that he enjoys living in Portland and is very comfortable there. Those appear to be the most important things to him, competing for a championship seems secondary. I also get the impression that he doesnít want the pressure and noise that comes along with playing for a contending team. He seems content being in a small market.
What on earth is this psychology-via-screen? Absurd

Itís called reading between the lines, GoukiÖ  ::)
No, itís called pretending to know how somebody works from your preconceptions about how they ought to behave. Newsflash: not everyone is the same.

I asked a question regarding why Dame would want to stay in Portland when they arenít competitive, to which you replied that he already addressed the reason on a podcast with JJ Redick. I then watched the interview and gave a response based on what he had to say. Iím not sure how that is an unreasonable thing to do.
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At some point you have to blame the performance on the court on the players on the court. Every loss is not the coach's fault and every win isn't because of the players.

Re: NBA Season 2022-23
« Reply #2613 on: March 18, 2023, 07:57:46 PM »

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So just to be clear, I still think a healthy Boston team beats Philly in a playoff series, even without HCA.

But I have to say, this Sixers team is just soaring. They're probably the hottest team in the NBA right now with a legit MVP
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Re: NBA Season 2022-23
« Reply #2614 on: March 18, 2023, 08:40:08 PM »

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So just to be clear, I still think a healthy Boston team beats Philly in a playoff series, even without HCA.

But I have to say, this Sixers team is just soaring. They're probably the hottest team in the NBA right now with a legit MVP

Yeah.  They started 12-12.  Since then 35-10.


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Re: NBA Season 2022-23
« Reply #2615 on: March 18, 2023, 09:43:29 PM »

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So just to be clear, I still think a healthy Boston team beats Philly in a playoff series, even without HCA.

But I have to say, this Sixers team is just soaring. They're probably the hottest team in the NBA right now with a legit MVP

Yeah.  They started 12-12.  Since then 35-10.
in their first 23 games, Harden missed 14 and Embiid 8 (many overlap), but they've both been mostly healthy since.  They are just a very nice fit.
I was finally wrong. Boston not only didn't win in 5, but didn't win at all.

Re: NBA Season 2022-23
« Reply #2616 on: March 18, 2023, 09:54:15 PM »

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So just to be clear, I still think a healthy Boston team beats Philly in a playoff series, even without HCA.

But I have to say, this Sixers team is just soaring. They're probably the hottest team in the NBA right now with a legit MVP

Yeah.  They started 12-12.  Since then 35-10.
in their first 23 games, Harden missed 14 and Embiid 8 (many overlap), but they've both been mostly healthy since.  They are just a very nice fit.

Maxey has also found his groove again
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Re: NBA Season 2022-23
« Reply #2617 on: March 18, 2023, 10:42:41 PM »

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So just to be clear, I still think a healthy Boston team beats Philly in a playoff series, even without HCA.

But I have to say, this Sixers team is just soaring. They're probably the hottest team in the NBA right now with a legit MVP

Yeah.  They started 12-12.  Since then 35-10.
in their first 23 games, Harden missed 14 and Embiid 8 (many overlap), but they've both been mostly healthy since.  They are just a very nice fit.

Maxey has also found his groove again

Something tells me the 76ers aren't the 76ers that we beat in the regular season. They'll be ready for us this time and are licking their chops with the way the C's been regressing

Re: NBA Season 2022-23
« Reply #2618 on: March 18, 2023, 10:43:42 PM »

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If Lillard cared about winning, wouldnít he have asked out of Portland by now? Surely he realizes that they arenít contending anytime soon. Same goes for Beal.
Lillard literally addresses people like you making this argument in his appearance on Redick's podcast

He thinks the league has changed and that it hasnít always been about winning championships/rings?  :laugh:  Canít believe people wanted to trade JB for Dame.  Heís definitely not built for Boston.

https://twitter.com/jj_redick/status/1635713290751053824?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1635713290751053824%7Ctwgr%5E424fbf5877e90b064c94fd7aea00ef0aa9a3da8a%7Ctwcon%5Es1_c10&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fd-36633314493271032664.ampproject.net%2F2302271541000%2Fframe.html
If that is your takeaway...

It is not some weird binary thing. You can (obviously, I would have thought) be competitive and want to win, whilst staying loyal to your team.

We laud and adore great players who stay loyal to successful teams, yet laugh at those who stay loyal to teams that falter - why?

I donít think many would call Dame disloyal at this point in his career if he wanted to go to another team to compete for a championship. The farthest that Portland has made it in the 11 years heís been there was the conference finals (once) where they received a gentleman sweep from GS. Blazers arenít even a playoff team this year and Lillard likely only has a few more years in his prime as small guards typically donít age well.

My takeaway from the interview is that he enjoys living in Portland and is very comfortable there. Those appear to be the most important things to him, competing for a championship seems secondary. I also get the impression that he doesnít want the pressure and noise that comes along with playing for a contending team. He seems content being in a small market.
What on earth is this psychology-via-screen? Absurd

Itís called reading between the lines, GoukiÖ  ::)
No, itís called pretending to know how somebody works from your preconceptions about how they ought to behave. Newsflash: not everyone is the same.

I asked a question regarding why Dame would want to stay in Portland when they arenít competitive, to which you replied that he already addressed the reason on a podcast with JJ Redick. I then watched the interview and gave a response based on what he had to say. Iím not sure how that is an unreasonable thing to do.
Again, itís not complicated. He wants to compete in Portland. Why is that worthy of demonisation? With a player of his calibre, if Portland just built even an okay team around him theyíd easily make the playoffs (as they used to).

Re: NBA Season 2022-23
« Reply #2619 on: March 18, 2023, 10:51:39 PM »

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So just to be clear, I still think a healthy Boston team beats Philly in a playoff series, even without HCA.

But I have to say, this Sixers team is just soaring. They're probably the hottest team in the NBA right now with a legit MVP

Yeah.  They started 12-12.  Since then 35-10.
in their first 23 games, Harden missed 14 and Embiid 8 (many overlap), but they've both been mostly healthy since.  They are just a very nice fit.

Maxey has also found his groove again

Something tells me the 76ers aren't the 76ers that we beat in the regular season. They'll be ready for us this time and are licking their chops with the way the C's been regressing

They also always play worse in the playoffs - particularly Embiid and Harden. The biggest reason for that is the game changes, and Embiid doesn't get the benefit of his foul grifting nearly as often.
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Re: NBA Season 2022-23
« Reply #2620 on: March 18, 2023, 10:59:10 PM »

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If Lillard cared about winning, wouldnít he have asked out of Portland by now? Surely he realizes that they arenít contending anytime soon. Same goes for Beal.
Lillard literally addresses people like you making this argument in his appearance on Redick's podcast

He thinks the league has changed and that it hasnít always been about winning championships/rings?  :laugh:  Canít believe people wanted to trade JB for Dame.  Heís definitely not built for Boston.

https://twitter.com/jj_redick/status/1635713290751053824?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1635713290751053824%7Ctwgr%5E424fbf5877e90b064c94fd7aea00ef0aa9a3da8a%7Ctwcon%5Es1_c10&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fd-36633314493271032664.ampproject.net%2F2302271541000%2Fframe.html
If that is your takeaway...

It is not some weird binary thing. You can (obviously, I would have thought) be competitive and want to win, whilst staying loyal to your team.

We laud and adore great players who stay loyal to successful teams, yet laugh at those who stay loyal to teams that falter - why?

I donít think many would call Dame disloyal at this point in his career if he wanted to go to another team to compete for a championship. The farthest that Portland has made it in the 11 years heís been there was the conference finals (once) where they received a gentleman sweep from GS. Blazers arenít even a playoff team this year and Lillard likely only has a few more years in his prime as small guards typically donít age well.

My takeaway from the interview is that he enjoys living in Portland and is very comfortable there. Those appear to be the most important things to him, competing for a championship seems secondary. I also get the impression that he doesnít want the pressure and noise that comes along with playing for a contending team. He seems content being in a small market.
What on earth is this psychology-via-screen? Absurd

Itís called reading between the lines, GoukiÖ  ::)
No, itís called pretending to know how somebody works from your preconceptions about how they ought to behave. Newsflash: not everyone is the same.

I asked a question regarding why Dame would want to stay in Portland when they arenít competitive, to which you replied that he already addressed the reason on a podcast with JJ Redick. I then watched the interview and gave a response based on what he had to say. Iím not sure how that is an unreasonable thing to do.
Again, itís not complicated. He wants to compete in Portland. Why is that worthy of demonisation? With a player of his calibre, if Portland just built even an okay team around him theyíd easily make the playoffs (as they used to).

Demonization? Now youíre just being absurd.
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At some point you have to blame the performance on the court on the players on the court. Every loss is not the coach's fault and every win isn't because of the players.

Re: NBA Season 2022-23
« Reply #2621 on: March 19, 2023, 12:24:48 AM »

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If Lillard cared about winning, wouldnít he have asked out of Portland by now? Surely he realizes that they arenít contending anytime soon. Same goes for Beal.
Lillard literally addresses people like you making this argument in his appearance on Redick's podcast

He thinks the league has changed and that it hasnít always been about winning championships/rings?  :laugh:  Canít believe people wanted to trade JB for Dame.  Heís definitely not built for Boston.

https://twitter.com/jj_redick/status/1635713290751053824?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1635713290751053824%7Ctwgr%5E424fbf5877e90b064c94fd7aea00ef0aa9a3da8a%7Ctwcon%5Es1_c10&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fd-36633314493271032664.ampproject.net%2F2302271541000%2Fframe.html
If that is your takeaway...

It is not some weird binary thing. You can (obviously, I would have thought) be competitive and want to win, whilst staying loyal to your team.

We laud and adore great players who stay loyal to successful teams, yet laugh at those who stay loyal to teams that falter - why?

I donít think many would call Dame disloyal at this point in his career if he wanted to go to another team to compete for a championship. The farthest that Portland has made it in the 11 years heís been there was the conference finals (once) where they received a gentleman sweep from GS. Blazers arenít even a playoff team this year and Lillard likely only has a few more years in his prime as small guards typically donít age well.

My takeaway from the interview is that he enjoys living in Portland and is very comfortable there. Those appear to be the most important things to him, competing for a championship seems secondary. I also get the impression that he doesnít want the pressure and noise that comes along with playing for a contending team. He seems content being in a small market.
What on earth is this psychology-via-screen? Absurd

Itís called reading between the lines, GoukiÖ  ::)
No, itís called pretending to know how somebody works from your preconceptions about how they ought to behave. Newsflash: not everyone is the same.

I asked a question regarding why Dame would want to stay in Portland when they arenít competitive, to which you replied that he already addressed the reason on a podcast with JJ Redick. I then watched the interview and gave a response based on what he had to say. Iím not sure how that is an unreasonable thing to do.
Again, itís not complicated. He wants to compete in Portland. Why is that worthy of demonisation? With a player of his calibre, if Portland just built even an okay team around him theyíd easily make the playoffs (as they used to).

Demonization? Now youíre just being absurd.
Stand by the belittling you put forward.

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I also get the impression that he doesnít want the pressure and noise that comes along with playing for a contending team.

Re: NBA Season 2022-23
« Reply #2622 on: March 19, 2023, 02:18:41 PM »

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The final 4 weeks might be a Battle Royale between Boston, Milwaukee and Philadelphia.

As it stands, Philly and Boston are both 2 games behind MIL for the 1 seed. PHI is ahead of us barely, but we do also have the tiebreaker over PHI. Sixers currently have the tiebreaker on MIL. And all 3 teams will play each other one more time before the season ends. It does feel like those head-to-head games could be monstrous in terms of tiebreakers and potential "2-game swings" either way.
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Re: NBA Season 2022-23
« Reply #2623 on: March 19, 2023, 07:57:32 PM »

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Idk if it's injuries or something internal, but this Miami team simply doesn't look good. Which is weird, but I guess their shots just haven't been falling this season. I still would prefer not to face them in the playoffs, but they definitely don't look as threatening as years past.
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Re: NBA Season 2022-23
« Reply #2624 on: March 19, 2023, 09:41:17 PM »

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Good game on between the Bucks and RaptorsÖ Hopefully Toronto can get the W.
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At some point you have to blame the performance on the court on the players on the court. Every loss is not the coach's fault and every win isn't because of the players.