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Re: In hindsight, should Danny have traded for Leonard??
« Reply #15 on: May 12, 2019, 10:14:56 PM »

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Celts could of had Leonard for Jaylen Brown

was it a mistake by Danny to not take the chance?  or are you still ok, that he didn't make that trade?

Masai from the Raptors looking like a genius right now

Not until they win a title and/or they keep Kawhi is when we can say Masai Ujiri won the gamble. If Kawhi leaves, he's stuck with Paskal Siakam as their main piece moving forward.

Maybe Ujiri had the cojones to do that trade, but I'm glad Danny didn't risk it. I don't know if it will be worth giving up a ton for one year of Leonard.

And they probably didn't just want Jaylen Brown, they probably would have asked for more.

Spurs got Derozan, Poetl and a pick I believe

seriously is Derozan that much better than Brown?  in terms of "what have you done" .... yes

but considering age, salary and potential....Brown has the edge

And that's why Danny probably didn't want to trade Brown.

You said it yourself, he has the edge, and he is under team control, while Kawhi, as great as he is, could have walked at the end of the season. It's easier for Ujiri to unload DeRozan too compare to Danny trading Jaylen, because DeMar didn't have success with Raptors and they were ready to try something different.
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Re: In hindsight, should Danny have traded for Leonard??
« Reply #16 on: May 12, 2019, 10:17:21 PM »

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No - Danny should have traded Kyrie Irving for Anthony Davis. We would still be playing.
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Re: In hindsight, should Danny have traded for Leonard??
« Reply #17 on: May 12, 2019, 10:21:31 PM »

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Celts could of had Leonard for Jaylen Brown

was it a mistake by Danny to not take the chance?  or are you still ok, that he didn't make that trade?

Masai from the Raptors looking like a genius right now

Not until they win a title and/or they keep Kawhi is when we can say Masai Ujiri won the gamble. If Kawhi leaves, he's stuck with Paskal Siakam as their main piece moving forward.

Maybe Ujiri had the cojones to do that trade, but I'm glad Danny didn't risk it. I don't know if it will be worth giving up a ton for one year of Leonard.

And they probably didn't just want Jaylen Brown, they probably would have asked for more.

Spurs got Derozan, Poetl and a pick I believe

seriously is Derozan that much better than Brown?  in terms of "what have you done" .... yes

but considering age, salary and potential....Brown has the edge

And that's why Danny probably didn't want to trade Brown.

You said it yourself, he has the edge, and he is under team control, while Kawhi, as great as he is, could have walked at the end of the season. It's easier for Ujiri to unload DeRozan too compare to Danny trading Jaylen, because DeMar didn't have success with Raptors and they were ready to try something different.

agreed

but it is also a little painful to know that the Celts could of had Leonard over the Raptors




Re: In hindsight, should Danny have traded for Leonard??
« Reply #18 on: May 12, 2019, 10:23:25 PM »

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No - Danny should have traded Kyrie Irving for Anthony Davis. We would still be playing.

I doubt the Pelicans would have agreed to such trade

not unless the Celts also included Tatum and multiple 1sts

Irving would have been more of a salary match....then part of long term future .  It's like having a nice car in the garage but inability to drive it

Re: In hindsight, should Danny have traded for Leonard??
« Reply #19 on: May 12, 2019, 10:24:54 PM »

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No - Danny should have traded Kyrie Irving for Anthony Davis. We would still be playing.
Could've traded for both! ;D
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Re: In hindsight, should Danny have traded for Leonard??
« Reply #20 on: May 12, 2019, 10:25:10 PM »

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As I said at the time, I would have taken that gamble.  I get why Danny didn’t, but you only get so many chances to land an MVP candidate.
And people are making the same exact mistake with AD. Hopefully Danny has learned from the past, unlike some people here.
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Re: In hindsight, should Danny have traded for Leonard??
« Reply #21 on: May 12, 2019, 10:39:36 PM »

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As I said at the time, I would have taken that gamble.  I get why Danny didn’t, but you only get so many chances to land an MVP candidate.
And people are making the same exact mistake with AD. Hopefully Danny has learned from the past, unlike some people here.

so regardless if Irving stays

you would trade for AD?

Re: In hindsight, should Danny have traded for Leonard??
« Reply #22 on: May 12, 2019, 10:53:23 PM »

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I don't think it would have been a done deal if we had only traded Jaylen + a pick or two.  Where is anyone quoted saying that could have been the trade?  These type of hindsight questions are kind of silly.

In HINDSIGHT, well danny obviously should have drafted the Greek.  But so what, he didn't.

I will say this....
I have a sneaking feeling that Jaylen Brown probably would have developed more playing under Pop with the Spurs this year than he did in our mess of a situation.  Even after last year's playoff run, and Jaylen accepting coming off the bench and playing lights out for months on end, it felt like Brad still didn't trust Jaylen.

Re: In hindsight, should Danny have traded for Leonard??
« Reply #23 on: May 12, 2019, 10:54:06 PM »

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There was obviously a certain degree of uncertainty regarding Kawhi at the beginning of the season.. Its obviousthat Kawhi was the same MVP candidate now that the season has already gone but at that time, it was an unknown.. Couple that with the fact that there might be a concern that both Kawhi and GH is redundant.. Remember that the team started Hayward and threw him into the fire which was obviously a big mistake.. Then there is also Morris and of course Tatum which again plays the position KL plays... We are all witnessing how great KL really is but who knew he would be this good.

It's like if Danny knew Giannis will be a great player then obviously he and the other 15 teams who passed on the Freak would have drafted him.

Right now Danny can only control what he can and those are make no mistake in the off-season.. Trade for AD with all the pieces that he has. Go all on and throw caution into the wind.

Re: In hindsight, should Danny have traded for Leonard??
« Reply #24 on: May 12, 2019, 11:01:20 PM »

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Celts could of had Leonard for Jaylen Brown

was it a mistake by Danny to not take the chance?  or are you still ok, that he didn't make that trade?

Masai from the Raptors looking like a genius right now

Danny was willing to pull the trigger.
But Kawhi said he was not willing to commit to Boston long term.
That's the main reason why Danny didn't make it happen.

Re: In hindsight, should Danny have traded for Leonard??
« Reply #25 on: May 12, 2019, 11:24:12 PM »

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Yea but I don’t blame him for it, I wouldn’t have done it either. I didn’t know Kawhi was like that and I viewed Jalen as being almost as good as him. Boy was I wrong, Kawhi on a whole other level. Sheesh.

Re: In hindsight, should Danny have traded for Leonard??
« Reply #26 on: May 12, 2019, 11:28:11 PM »

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Celts could of had Leonard for Jaylen Brown

was it a mistake by Danny to not take the chance?  or are you still ok, that he didn't make that trade?

Masai from the Raptors looking like a genius right now

Danny was willing to pull the trigger.
But Kawhi said he was not willing to commit to Boston long term.
That's the main reason why Danny didn't make it happen.

Winning cures all. Kawhi Leonard may stay after all, if this team got into the Finals.

But Ainge should've dealt Brown for Leonard, even if it was the risk of a one-year rental. You still have Gordon Hayward in your disposal, Tatum, Ojeleye and the new acquisition of Leonard. And when he leaves, you still got three more SFs. And Kyrie Irving can play second-fiddle to Leonard, something he is "supposedly" good at. Get a veteran big like Kanter and you just might win it all.


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Re: In hindsight, should Danny have traded for Leonard??
« Reply #27 on: May 12, 2019, 11:48:46 PM »

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I don't think it would have been a done deal if we had only traded Jaylen + a pick or two.  Where is anyone quoted saying that could have been the trade?  These type of hindsight questions are kind of silly.

In HINDSIGHT, well danny obviously should have drafted the Greek.  But so what, he didn't.

I will say this....
I have a sneaking feeling that Jaylen Brown probably would have developed more playing under Pop with the Spurs this year than he did in our mess of a situation.  Even after last year's playoff run, and Jaylen accepting coming off the bench and playing lights out for months on end, it felt like Brad still didn't trust Jaylen.

Imo CBS wanted Olynyk

and Danny wasn't sure about the Greek Freak

Giannis was a 6'9 guard at the time. Skinny as S@#4. Couldn't shoot. Not very quick/explosive for his position

who could have known he was going to turn out to be a 7'0 250 pound, PF monster?


Re: In hindsight, should Danny have traded for Leonard??
« Reply #28 on: May 13, 2019, 12:35:52 AM »

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It takes two to tango and the rumors of a Kawhi to Boston deal were pretty mute, especially from anyone credible. We only came to find out later Ainge offered picks and youth and San Antonio flatly rejected the offer.

Ainge just never had what San Antonio was willing to buy. They wanted an established star to continue trying to compete under Pops. That's what they got. The Celtics didn't have that.

Re: In hindsight, should Danny have traded for Leonard??
« Reply #29 on: May 13, 2019, 01:34:46 AM »

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Danny got three allstars none of whom can bring us a championship.

Leonard can.

So yes, Danny should of made the deal.