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Re: Woj: "Kyrie Day to Day"
« Reply #15 on: February 11, 2019, 08:27:58 AM »

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Kyrie does not have knee problems like Chris Paul.

The only major knee surgery Kyrie had was when he got injured in the 2015 Finals.

Last season's knee surgery was a follow up to that 2015 surgery.

Other than that, Kyrie's only other major injury was back in college when missed the majority of the college season due to a toe injury.

So it's not true that Kyrie is not durable.

Ainge would've traded Kyrie, at the trade deadline, if the Celts had no plans of giving him a max contract after this season.

What Ainge and the Celts are envisioning is a tandem of Kyrie and AD for many years to come.

Not counting this year Kyrie has played and most likely started 441 out of 558 games (six full length seasons 6 x 82 plus 1 lock out season of 66 games) which is 0.7903 or roughly 79% and is equivalent to 64.8 games in an 82 game season.

Again not counting this season, Chris Paul: 892/1050, 0.8495 or 69.66 games in an 82 games season.

So Paul actually has a better games played percentage or whatever you want to call it.

Now most people would classify Chris Paul as prone to injury.

Would you?


Re: Woj: "Kyrie Day to Day"
« Reply #16 on: February 11, 2019, 01:23:20 PM »

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Rest him until the end of ASB.

Let's see what these young kids are made of in Philadelphia without their leading-scorer.

He will be sitting vs Philly, we'll see if Rozier can step it up in a crunch game.
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Re: Woj: "Kyrie Day to Day"
« Reply #17 on: February 11, 2019, 02:26:58 PM »

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No point in playing him at all this week. Let him get to 100%. They are not getting the first seed overall and 2nd might be tough now too.

Re: Woj: "Kyrie Day to Day"
« Reply #18 on: February 11, 2019, 02:38:34 PM »

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Celtics without Kyrie are 1-11 in their last 12 road games against winning teams.

The one win?  In Philadelphia in OT. - Game 3 of the East Semis last May.
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Re: Woj: "Kyrie Day to Day"
« Reply #19 on: February 11, 2019, 02:42:42 PM »

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No point in playing him at all this week. Let him get to 100%. They are not getting the first seed overall and 2nd might be tough now too.

Celtics need to say no All Star game either then.

Re: Woj: "Kyrie Day to Day"
« Reply #20 on: February 11, 2019, 04:28:02 PM »

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No point in playing him at all this week. Let him get to 100%. They are not getting the first seed overall and 2nd might be tough now too.

Celtics need to say no All Star game either then.

They'd have to be crazy to let him play the ASG if they're sitting him tomorrow and Wed. If he aggravated it in the ASG it would be catastrophic.

As for 2nd seed, I think that's not happening. 3rd seed is what they can realistically hope for.
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Re: Woj: "Kyrie Day to Day"
« Reply #21 on: February 11, 2019, 05:09:39 PM »

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Kyrie's durability is one of my big concerns with him. Getting him to the playoffs is the priority but it feels like it'll be this way every year with managing his health.

It'd be a very good problem to have but a team with both him and the similarly fragile Davis would be a roll of the dice every year and could easily wind up like the CP3/Blake teams where at least one's always out in the playoffs.

Re: Woj: "Kyrie Day to Day"
« Reply #22 on: February 11, 2019, 05:48:33 PM »

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Kyrie's durability is one of my big concerns with him. Getting him to the playoffs is the priority but it feels like it'll be this way every year with managing his health.

It'd be a very good problem to have but a team with both him and the similarly fragile Davis would be a roll of the dice every year and could easily wind up like the CP3/Blake teams where at least one's always out in the playoffs.

As you said, nice problem to have, but I think it's fair to say that having a lot of depth and managing minutes would be really important.
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Re: Woj: "Kyrie Day to Day"
« Reply #23 on: February 11, 2019, 06:52:53 PM »

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Celtics without Kyrie are 1-11 in their last 12 road games against winning teams.

The one win?  In Philadelphia in OT. - Game 3 of the East Semis last May.
Does that game feel like a lifetime ago to anyone else?

Re: Woj: "Kyrie Day to Day"
« Reply #24 on: February 11, 2019, 07:32:47 PM »

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Celtics without Kyrie are 1-11 in their last 12 road games against winning teams.

The one win?  In Philadelphia in OT. - Game 3 of the East Semis last May.
Does that game feel like a lifetime ago to anyone else?

Yeah man, it does.
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Re: Woj: "Kyrie Day to Day"
« Reply #25 on: February 12, 2019, 05:28:39 PM »

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No point in playing him at all this week. Let him get to 100%. They are not getting the first seed overall and 2nd might be tough now too.

Celtics need to say no All Star game either then.

They'd have to be crazy to let him play the ASG if they're sitting him tomorrow and Wed. If he aggravated it in the ASG it would be catastrophic.

As for 2nd seed, I think that's not happening. 3rd seed is what they can realistically hope for.


Something tells me he’s playing.

How can he not? How big brother LeBron drafted him

Re: Woj: "Kyrie Day to Day"
« Reply #26 on: February 12, 2019, 05:49:22 PM »

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No point in playing him at all this week. Let him get to 100%. They are not getting the first seed overall and 2nd might be tough now too.

Celtics need to say no All Star game either then.

They'd have to be crazy to let him play the ASG if they're sitting him tomorrow and Wed. If he aggravated it in the ASG it would be catastrophic.


+1, if he sits today (wed), he needs to sit out the ASG.  what kind of message is that sending the rest of our team?  I would be really surprised / p---ed if that happens.

Re: Woj: "Kyrie Day to Day"
« Reply #27 on: February 12, 2019, 11:17:39 PM »

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I thought Antoine made some interesting comments regarding Kyrie

https://sports.yahoo.com/antoine-walker-doesnt-think-kyrie-235412120.html

Re: Woj: "Kyrie Day to Day"
« Reply #28 on: February 12, 2019, 11:21:23 PM »

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Re: Woj: "Kyrie Day to Day"
« Reply #29 on: February 12, 2019, 11:28:56 PM »

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Kyrie is a 25 yr old with numerous DNP for knee issues. He has had multiple knee surgeries. This is not a player you want to spend a supermax contract on. Not when your other supermax are a player returning from serious ankle injury and a player over his prime years.

Danny has a tough job ahead.

For the millionth time, Kyrie Irving is not eligible for a super max. In order to get that you must play for the same team as your rookie deals.

He’s going to sign roughly a 5 year 180 million deal and it’s going to be worth every penny. You don’t let people like Kyrie walk over money.

Agreed. What astounds me is I think some people are taking for granted just how good Kyrie really is. Pay attention to him on the court. His ball handling is phenomenal and his court awareness is off the charts. He literally runs circles around his defender. He puts on a show like I've never seen and it truly is a pleasure watching him play.

No question he is by far the best ball handler in the history of the NBA. That is a fact. What is also a fact is that he is not durable. You have to decide what you want. A showman or championships. He cannot win you championships if he is not playing. It is clear you have to manage his minutes. Because of that you cannot pay him the max because you have to pay his backup that will keep him healthy.

I take my chances and give him the max. You're not going to find a better point guard in the league than Kyrie and because we can offer him the most money, it's in the team's best interest to keep him. He also suffered his share of injuries in Cleveland but he also played a large role in the Cavs winning a championship.

He sure did that in Cleveland, but guess what when he did not play, they did not win. Celtics must find a way to keep him on the court. Pay him, but get expert opinion from the doctors on how much his knees can take. His issues are his knees or knee. When you pay an asset 180,000,000 you need to protect the asset.  Maybe Kyrie should even be counseled about some of his ankle breaking moves.
Do you really believe that before signing a player to a 5 year $180 million contract, Ainge and the Celtics hierarchy, which includes a bunch of lawyers, wouldn't have him looked at by the very best of doctors?

 

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