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Re: Why in the world would Celtics trade all theses assets for AD
« Reply #60 on: February 09, 2019, 07:30:32 PM »

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What does AD do if Ainge signs KD?

Let's say Kyrie signs, then they go recruit KD again?

AD is going to change his tune and the Pelicans will come calling. 😉😉

Re: Why in the world would Celtics trade all theses assets for AD
« Reply #61 on: February 09, 2019, 07:33:12 PM »

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What does AD do if Ainge signs KD?

Let's say Kyrie signs, then they go recruit KD again?

AD is going to change his tune and the Pelicans will come calling. 😉😉
And how are you going to get the cap space to do that? 

Re: Why in the world would Celtics trade all theses assets for AD
« Reply #62 on: February 09, 2019, 07:36:51 PM »

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What does AD do if Ainge signs KD?

Let's say Kyrie signs, then they go recruit KD again?

AD is going to change his tune and the Pelicans will come calling. 😉😉
And how are you going to get the cap space to do that?

Well at that point you can move Tatum, Smart, Brown and picks to the Pelicans and AD is already under contract. He wouldn't have to resign until next offseason. 🤷🏾‍♂️

Remember Ainge pulled off 2 different moves to get Ray and KG.

Re: Why in the world would Celtics trade all theses assets for AD
« Reply #63 on: February 09, 2019, 07:39:47 PM »

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What does AD do if Ainge signs KD?

Let's say Kyrie signs, then they go recruit KD again?

AD is going to change his tune and the Pelicans will come calling. 😉😉
And how are you going to get the cap space to do that?

Well at that point you can move Tatum, Smart, Brown and picks to the Pelicans and AD is already under contract. He wouldn't have to resign until next offseason. 🤷🏾‍♂️

Remember Ainge pulled off 2 different moves to get Ray and KG.

He me as the cap space to get KD. You suggested a S&T above I think.

The problem is why would Golden State help create a monster in Boston? They'd literally be setting up the team to beat them. I think they'd rather let him walk and sign with the Knicks or Lakers...

Re: Why in the world would Celtics trade all theses assets for AD
« Reply #64 on: February 09, 2019, 08:43:47 PM »

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Well they get several good players perhaps an All Star if Hayward returns to form or Horford who fits in their offense verses not getting anything.

Warriors aren't worried about a team in the East.

Re: Why in the world would Celtics trade all theses assets for AD
« Reply #65 on: February 09, 2019, 08:57:37 PM »

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Rozier missed the three,, but that's a good pass by Brown.

Re: Why in the world would Celtics trade all theses assets for AD
« Reply #66 on: February 09, 2019, 08:58:19 PM »

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My god I do hate Morris' game sometimes, but when it goes in hard to complain.

Re: Why in the world would Celtics trade all theses assets for AD
« Reply #67 on: February 09, 2019, 10:13:15 PM »

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I believe Danny is driving up the price for the Lakers while his real goal is to give nothing and sign KD .

I do not think it's even possible to "sign" KD because of the cap. I believe they can only "trade" for a superstar which is AD. I am not sure I am on board with trading everything for a possible 1-year rental and hope we convince him to stay idea.

Agreed. "hope we convince him to stay" is insane.
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Re: Why in the world would Celtics trade all theses assets for AD
« Reply #68 on: February 10, 2019, 02:49:07 AM »

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I hate to be that guy but Anthony Davis is not as good as Kevin Garnett was. Anthony Davis puts up monster stats but i'm not feeling his overall impact on the game. However, Kevin Garnett could completely take over a game with his defense alone. A Kyrie and AD core is not enough to get this team over the top. Ainge trading the whole team for AD is a mistake. Ainge should be pulling out all the stops to get Kevin Durant instead.

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« Reply #69 on: February 10, 2019, 02:53:41 AM »

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I hate to be that guy but Anthony Davis is not as good as Kevin Garnett was. Anthony Davis puts up monster stats but i'm not feeling his overall impact on the game. However, Kevin Garnett could completely take over a game with his defense alone. A Kyrie and AD core is not enough to get this team over the top. Ainge trading the whole team for AD is a mistake. Ainge should be pulling out all the stops to get Kevin Durant instead.
Disagree. AD is the best big man of this generation, and is a better offensive talent than KG ever was, and the defensive gap isn't that far. I think they're very similar in terms of talent and impact.

How would DA go after Durant though? We have no cap space, and I'm pretty darn confident Golden State wouldn't trade him to us so that we can beat them in the Finals
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Re: Why in the world would Celtics trade all theses assets for AD
« Reply #70 on: February 10, 2019, 03:04:37 AM »

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Ainge is going to shock the world when he circles back on KD. He wouldn't have to part with Brown or Tatum to get KD.

Horford or Hayward in S&T to Warriors.

Kyrie
Smart
Tatum
KD
Baynes or Horford

Would much rather have Kyrie, Tatum, and Durant rather than just Kyrie and Davis.

Re: Why in the world would Celtics trade all theses assets for AD
« Reply #71 on: February 10, 2019, 03:09:33 AM »

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I hate to be that guy but Anthony Davis is not as good as Kevin Garnett was. Anthony Davis puts up monster stats but i'm not feeling his overall impact on the game. However, Kevin Garnett could completely take over a game with his defense alone. A Kyrie and AD core is not enough to get this team over the top. Ainge trading the whole team for AD is a mistake. Ainge should be pulling out all the stops to get Kevin Durant instead.
Disagree. AD is the best big man of this generation, and is a better offensive talent than KG ever was, and the defensive gap isn't that far. I think they're very similar in terms of talent and impact.

How would DA go after Durant though? We have no cap space, and I'm pretty darn confident Golden State wouldn't trade him to us so that we can beat them in the Finals

Davis is probably a better offensive player, but defensively he cannot hold a candle to Garnett. Davis gets a lot of blocks and steals but Garnett was the quarterback of the entire defense. He was the lynch pin in one of the greatest defenses I've ever seen. I have not seen anything remotely similar happening in New Orleans on the defensive end. I would take Garnett and his good offense+historic defense over AD and his great offense and good defense.

Re: Why in the world would Celtics trade all theses assets for AD
« Reply #72 on: February 10, 2019, 03:35:09 AM »

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Because they just all suck. Just watch the Clippers game. This team is not a contender. Trade anybody but Kyrie for Davis. They're just not good enough. I was quite on Tatum, Hayward, Rozier all this time, but this is way too much. Davis has to land, because this team just ain't good enough. They're good, but that's it.

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Re: Why in the world would Celtics trade all theses assets for AD
« Reply #73 on: February 10, 2019, 05:53:42 AM »

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Does any one really believe that these assets you speak of are going to get us far in the playoffs?    I have my doubts?   I think we need another star or two.   We have had some bad luck with Hayward and I think management's hope is that he will be ready by the playoffs.   He is improving but has a ways to go.

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Davis is probably a better offensive player, but defensively he cannot hold a candle to Garnett

This absurd on many levels.  Davis is a fantastic defender.  He averages more block, a better defensive winshares, is even on STLS and a better shot blocker

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/g/garneke01.html

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/d/davisan02.html

Look at the stats and see if you still think that. I felt I needed to challenge what is a false narrative not based in stats.

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Disagree. AD is the best big man of this generation, and is a better offensive talent than KG ever was, and the defensive gap isn't that far. I think they're very similar in terms of talent and impact.

I concur with you, except it is KG who has a defensive gap with Davis not vice versa.   Now KG had the defensive control tower leadership that you want from a guy.   But statistically, so far Davis is the better of the two.

Re: Why in the world would Celtics trade all theses assets for AD
« Reply #74 on: February 10, 2019, 05:55:49 AM »

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We need players with the same talent level but do not have the sense of entitlement as if they’ve done something in the league