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Re: Democratic Presidential Candidates 2020
« Reply #825 on: February 13, 2020, 09:01:02 PM »

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New national poll, done entirely after New Hampshire:

Support + change vs pre-NH

Sanders: 29% (+4)
Biden: 19 (-3)
Bloomberg: 18 (+1)
Buttigieg: 11
Warren: 10 (-1)
Klobuchar: 5 (+2)

Bernie getting a bump, maybe just from perception as front-runner but maybe consolidating long-term support. 10 pt lead is very sizable with this many candidates left and a high bar to get delegates. Klobuchar rising too but she needs a lot more. Biden continues to drop and Bloomberg may be heading for 2nd. Buttigieg getting little from having 2 very favorable states early. Warren stable but clearly in 2nd tier.
It is so crazy to me that Bloomberg is so high. Who is his core demographic?

People who are susceptible to television advertising.

Maybe even more so to facebook ads.  I heard on the news yesterday that Bloomberg was spending 1mil a day on facebook ads.  I question if that can be true or not, as it seems like a LOT.

He has a 150m monthly ad budget so 30m in facebook is absolutely possible. It might be even higher now.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/michael-bloomberg-surpasses-200-million-spent-ads/story?id=68203856

my lord that is a lot of money.

Trump has a lot of $$ at his disposal -- Dems will need a lot to compete. Bloomberg has committed to big investment regardless of the dem nominee.  This is about defeating a dangerous and powerful man.

Re: Democratic Presidential Candidates 2020
« Reply #826 on: February 14, 2020, 01:54:16 PM »

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Interesting YouGov poll that asked about hypothetical 2-candidate races.



Very hard to accurately forecast but consolidation of moderate candidates might not have the expected result against Sanders. Also surprising how much stronger Biden is in that hypothetical pairing.

Re: Democratic Presidential Candidates 2020
« Reply #827 on: February 14, 2020, 02:04:42 PM »

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Interesting YouGov poll that asked about hypothetical 2-candidate races.



Very hard to accurately forecast but consolidation of moderate candidates might not have the expected result against Sanders. Also surprising how much stronger Biden is in that hypothetical pairing.
https://news.gallup.com/poll/285563/socialism-atheism-political-liabilities.aspx
WASHINGTON, D.C. -- More than nine in 10 Americans say they would vote for a presidential candidate nominated by their party who happened to be black, Catholic, Hispanic, Jewish or a woman. Such willingness drops to eight in 10 for candidates who are evangelical Christians or are gays or lesbians. Between six and seven in 10 would vote for someone who is under 40 years of age, over 70, a Muslim or an atheist.

Just one group tested -- socialists -- receives majority opposition. Less than half of Americans, 45%, say they would vote for a socialist for president, while 53% say they would not.


This poll suggests that Americans havent' completely lost their minds.  I'm hoping crazy old bernie gets the D nomination as he is least likely to actually become President.  Especially when people are exposed to his incredible anti-American pro-communist history.  It will be incredibly hard for the MSM to whitewash. 
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Re: Democratic Presidential Candidates 2020
« Reply #828 on: February 14, 2020, 03:30:23 PM »

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Interesting YouGov poll that asked about hypothetical 2-candidate races.



Very hard to accurately forecast but consolidation of moderate candidates might not have the expected result against Sanders. Also surprising how much stronger Biden is in that hypothetical pairing.
https://news.gallup.com/poll/285563/socialism-atheism-political-liabilities.aspx
WASHINGTON, D.C. -- More than nine in 10 Americans say they would vote for a presidential candidate nominated by their party who happened to be black, Catholic, Hispanic, Jewish or a woman. Such willingness drops to eight in 10 for candidates who are evangelical Christians or are gays or lesbians. Between six and seven in 10 would vote for someone who is under 40 years of age, over 70, a Muslim or an atheist.

Just one group tested -- socialists -- receives majority opposition. Less than half of Americans, 45%, say they would vote for a socialist for president, while 53% say they would not.


This poll suggests that Americans havent' completely lost their minds.  I'm hoping crazy old bernie gets the D nomination as he is least likely to actually become President.  Especially when people are exposed to his incredible anti-American pro-communist history.  It will be incredibly hard for the MSM to whitewash.
The term socialist to many in America equates to Communist and there is a very large sector of this country that still have the memories of fear associated with the Cold War.

So they run from people labeled as such not realizing socialism is not communism and that many parts of our current federal government are already socialistic in nature.

That is why Trump will label any Democrat that gets nominated as a socialist, and a couple as  outright communists.

Re: Democratic Presidential Candidates 2020
« Reply #829 on: February 14, 2020, 03:49:16 PM »

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https://news.gallup.com/poll/285563/socialism-atheism-political-liabilities.aspx
WASHINGTON, D.C. -- More than nine in 10 Americans say they would vote for a presidential candidate nominated by their party who happened to be black, Catholic, Hispanic, Jewish or a woman. Such willingness drops to eight in 10 for candidates who are evangelical Christians or are gays or lesbians. Between six and seven in 10 would vote for someone who is under 40 years of age, over 70, a Muslim or an atheist.

Just one group tested -- socialists -- receives majority opposition. Less than half of Americans, 45%, say they would vote for a socialist for president, while 53% say they would not.


This poll suggests that Americans havent' completely lost their minds.  I'm hoping crazy old bernie gets the D nomination as he is least likely to actually become President.  Especially when people are exposed to his incredible anti-American pro-communist history.  It will be incredibly hard for the MSM to whitewash.

This seems fairly implausible after the election and reelection of Barack Obama, an open Marxist Alinskyite radical and the biggest socialist that ever socialismed.

Re: Democratic Presidential Candidates 2020
« Reply #830 on: February 14, 2020, 04:11:58 PM »

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https://news.gallup.com/poll/285563/socialism-atheism-political-liabilities.aspx
WASHINGTON, D.C. -- More than nine in 10 Americans say they would vote for a presidential candidate nominated by their party who happened to be black, Catholic, Hispanic, Jewish or a woman. Such willingness drops to eight in 10 for candidates who are evangelical Christians or are gays or lesbians. Between six and seven in 10 would vote for someone who is under 40 years of age, over 70, a Muslim or an atheist.

Just one group tested -- socialists -- receives majority opposition. Less than half of Americans, 45%, say they would vote for a socialist for president, while 53% say they would not.


This poll suggests that Americans havent' completely lost their minds.  I'm hoping crazy old bernie gets the D nomination as he is least likely to actually become President.  Especially when people are exposed to his incredible anti-American pro-communist history.  It will be incredibly hard for the MSM to whitewash.

This seems fairly implausible after the election and reelection of Barack Obama, an open Marxist Alinskyite radical and the biggest socialist that ever socialismed.
don't overlook the fact that he was obviously not born in this country either.   ::)

Re: Democratic Presidential Candidates 2020
« Reply #831 on: February 14, 2020, 04:47:51 PM »

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https://news.gallup.com/poll/285563/socialism-atheism-political-liabilities.aspx
WASHINGTON, D.C. -- More than nine in 10 Americans say they would vote for a presidential candidate nominated by their party who happened to be black, Catholic, Hispanic, Jewish or a woman. Such willingness drops to eight in 10 for candidates who are evangelical Christians or are gays or lesbians. Between six and seven in 10 would vote for someone who is under 40 years of age, over 70, a Muslim or an atheist.

Just one group tested -- socialists -- receives majority opposition. Less than half of Americans, 45%, say they would vote for a socialist for president, while 53% say they would not.


This poll suggests that Americans havent' completely lost their minds.  I'm hoping crazy old bernie gets the D nomination as he is least likely to actually become President.  Especially when people are exposed to his incredible anti-American pro-communist history.  It will be incredibly hard for the MSM to whitewash.

This seems fairly implausible after the election and reelection of Barack Obama, an open Marxist Alinskyite radical and the biggest socialist that ever socialismed.
don't overlook the fact that he was obviously not born in this country either.   ::)

And that he was a Muslim who was a devout follower of a radical Christian minister.

Re: Democratic Presidential Candidates 2020
« Reply #832 on: February 14, 2020, 06:24:07 PM »

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https://news.gallup.com/poll/285563/socialism-atheism-political-liabilities.aspx
WASHINGTON, D.C. -- More than nine in 10 Americans say they would vote for a presidential candidate nominated by their party who happened to be black, Catholic, Hispanic, Jewish or a woman. Such willingness drops to eight in 10 for candidates who are evangelical Christians or are gays or lesbians. Between six and seven in 10 would vote for someone who is under 40 years of age, over 70, a Muslim or an atheist.

Just one group tested -- socialists -- receives majority opposition. Less than half of Americans, 45%, say they would vote for a socialist for president, while 53% say they would not.


This poll suggests that Americans havent' completely lost their minds.  I'm hoping crazy old bernie gets the D nomination as he is least likely to actually become President.  Especially when people are exposed to his incredible anti-American pro-communist history.  It will be incredibly hard for the MSM to whitewash.

This seems fairly implausible after the election and reelection of Barack Obama, an open Marxist Alinskyite radical and the biggest socialist that ever socialismed.
don't overlook the fact that he was obviously not born in this country either.   ::)

And that he was a Muslim who was a devout follower of a radical Christian minister.

And his mother dressed him funny! Mama Obama, why the tan suit, why?

Re: Democratic Presidential Candidates 2020
« Reply #833 on: February 14, 2020, 08:03:17 PM »

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Interesting YouGov poll that asked about hypothetical 2-candidate races.



Very hard to accurately forecast but consolidation of moderate candidates might not have the expected result against Sanders. Also surprising how much stronger Biden is in that hypothetical pairing.
https://news.gallup.com/poll/285563/socialism-atheism-political-liabilities.aspx
WASHINGTON, D.C. -- More than nine in 10 Americans say they would vote for a presidential candidate nominated by their party who happened to be black, Catholic, Hispanic, Jewish or a woman. Such willingness drops to eight in 10 for candidates who are evangelical Christians or are gays or lesbians. Between six and seven in 10 would vote for someone who is under 40 years of age, over 70, a Muslim or an atheist.

Just one group tested -- socialists -- receives majority opposition. Less than half of Americans, 45%, say they would vote for a socialist for president, while 53% say they would not.


This poll suggests that Americans havent' completely lost their minds.  I'm hoping crazy old bernie gets the D nomination as he is least likely to actually become President.  Especially when people are exposed to his incredible anti-American pro-communist history.  It will be incredibly hard for the MSM to whitewash.

So socialists get about the same national support as pathological liars -- sounds about right. 

Re: Democratic Presidential Candidates 2020
« Reply #834 on: February 14, 2020, 08:47:06 PM »

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https://news.gallup.com/poll/285563/socialism-atheism-political-liabilities.aspx
WASHINGTON, D.C. -- More than nine in 10 Americans say they would vote for a presidential candidate nominated by their party who happened to be black, Catholic, Hispanic, Jewish or a woman. Such willingness drops to eight in 10 for candidates who are evangelical Christians or are gays or lesbians. Between six and seven in 10 would vote for someone who is under 40 years of age, over 70, a Muslim or an atheist.

Just one group tested -- socialists -- receives majority opposition. Less than half of Americans, 45%, say they would vote for a socialist for president, while 53% say they would not.


This poll suggests that Americans havent' completely lost their minds.  I'm hoping crazy old bernie gets the D nomination as he is least likely to actually become President.  Especially when people are exposed to his incredible anti-American pro-communist history.  It will be incredibly hard for the MSM to whitewash.

This seems fairly implausible after the election and reelection of Barack Obama, an open Marxist Alinskyite radical and the biggest socialist that ever socialismed.

White guilt

Re: Democratic Presidential Candidates 2020
« Reply #835 on: February 14, 2020, 09:12:20 PM »

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https://news.gallup.com/poll/285563/socialism-atheism-political-liabilities.aspx
WASHINGTON, D.C. -- More than nine in 10 Americans say they would vote for a presidential candidate nominated by their party who happened to be black, Catholic, Hispanic, Jewish or a woman. Such willingness drops to eight in 10 for candidates who are evangelical Christians or are gays or lesbians. Between six and seven in 10 would vote for someone who is under 40 years of age, over 70, a Muslim or an atheist.

Just one group tested -- socialists -- receives majority opposition. Less than half of Americans, 45%, say they would vote for a socialist for president, while 53% say they would not.


This poll suggests that Americans havent' completely lost their minds.  I'm hoping crazy old bernie gets the D nomination as he is least likely to actually become President.  Especially when people are exposed to his incredible anti-American pro-communist history.  It will be incredibly hard for the MSM to whitewash.

This seems fairly implausible after the election and reelection of Barack Obama, an open Marxist Alinskyite radical and the biggest socialist that ever socialismed.

White guilt

You may be revealing too much about yourself and you should stop. 

The American people are capable of voting for an African American based on their assessment of the content of his or her character and alignment with their political views.

There are undoubtedly Americans who vote for or against a candidate based solely on their identity, but to suggest  this is the reason that this particular politician was elected and re-elected has no basis other than an opinion — one that could be construed to suggest  that a Black American could be elected only as the beneficiary of identity politics. 

Re: Democratic Presidential Candidates 2020
« Reply #836 on: February 14, 2020, 09:57:34 PM »

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https://news.gallup.com/poll/285563/socialism-atheism-political-liabilities.aspx
WASHINGTON, D.C. -- More than nine in 10 Americans say they would vote for a presidential candidate nominated by their party who happened to be black, Catholic, Hispanic, Jewish or a woman. Such willingness drops to eight in 10 for candidates who are evangelical Christians or are gays or lesbians. Between six and seven in 10 would vote for someone who is under 40 years of age, over 70, a Muslim or an atheist.

Just one group tested -- socialists -- receives majority opposition. Less than half of Americans, 45%, say they would vote for a socialist for president, while 53% say they would not.


This poll suggests that Americans havent' completely lost their minds.  I'm hoping crazy old bernie gets the D nomination as he is least likely to actually become President.  Especially when people are exposed to his incredible anti-American pro-communist history.  It will be incredibly hard for the MSM to whitewash.

This seems fairly implausible after the election and reelection of Barack Obama, an open Marxist Alinskyite radical and the biggest socialist that ever socialismed.
don't overlook the fact that he was obviously not born in this country either.   ::)

And that he was a Muslim who was a devout follower of a radical Christian minister.

And a god-hating atheist

Re: Democratic Presidential Candidates 2020
« Reply #837 on: February 15, 2020, 03:25:56 AM »

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Interesting YouGov poll that asked about hypothetical 2-candidate races.



Very hard to accurately forecast but consolidation of moderate candidates might not have the expected result against Sanders. Also surprising how much stronger Biden is in that hypothetical pairing.

Isn’t what matters is the head to head of each candidate vs Trump? What is that data saying?

I remember last election many polls suggesting that Bernie vs Trump swung in Democrat’s favor much more than Hillary vs Trump. None of the Hillary voters I know believed it at the time...

Re: Democratic Presidential Candidates 2020
« Reply #838 on: February 15, 2020, 04:06:34 AM »

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Obama a socialist? When did he convert?

Lets see any of you try to solve that riddle!!!

Re: Democratic Presidential Candidates 2020
« Reply #839 on: February 15, 2020, 05:41:05 AM »

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Interesting YouGov poll that asked about hypothetical 2-candidate races.



Very hard to accurately forecast but consolidation of moderate candidates might not have the expected result against Sanders. Also surprising how much stronger Biden is in that hypothetical pairing.

Isn’t what matters is the head to head of each candidate vs Trump? What is that data saying?

I remember last election many polls suggesting that Bernie vs Trump swung in Democrat’s favor much more than Hillary vs Trump. None of the Hillary voters I know believed it at the time...

That data is saying that even if the moderate candidates “consolidated and rallied behind” one candidate, Bernie would still beat them. I don’t think much more than that though!