Do you realize the difference between a prison and a country, the difference between the Country Club and a country?
Prison walls work sure but they also have armed guards on every corner and armed guards watching from within to make sure no one escapes, with no one watching the prisons would be empty pretty quickly.
Yes, I do but that does not change the fact, that walls make it much more difficult and for you to pretend they don't is dishonest. Walking across and open field is much more easier than a wall.
A wall with vibration sensors where Border Control could quickly apprehend and respond would work. I am a veteran and I know some things about security.
I also work for nice country clubs I am a golf professional, we had a nice walled in parking lot for our members to park their Mercedes and BMWs in and guess what someone scaled the fence in the back corner broke into three different people cars and stole money, a laptop etc.
Not fullproof, as I said but it would help. I lived in El Paso and was stationed in Fort Bliss. What is completely silly is folks like you acting like walls do not work at all. Virtually all civilizations since 8000 BC used walls for defense and to protect we still use them today.
The Wall is a minor deterrent, much smaller than a lot of the natural physical barriers that already exist, as Trump said in 2006 at a commencement speech (paraphrased) if their is a Wall in front of you you go around it, over it, or under it he knows walls aren't effective.
And yet areas with the walls on our present border
In 2006, President George W. Bush passed the Secure Fence Act which had a tremendous impact in Yuma County. In 2015, Fox News reported a 96 percent reduction in apprehensions due to a 20-foot tall steel fence and manpower being tripled. Wilmot was a deputy during that time but saw the impact firsthand.https://www.foxnews.com/us/walls-work-says-arizona-sheriff-who-claims-crime-dropped-by-91-percent-thanks-to-border-fence
“It was a 91 percent drop,” Wilmot said. “It obviously helped us curb some of the criminal activity that we unfortunately had to deal with.”
Now, I am not implying that every illegal migrant/immigrant is a criminal. But walls help
n fact, the number of deportable illegal immigrants located by the US Border Patrol plummeted by more than 89 percent over the five-year period during which the controversial new fence was built, according to Homeland Security data I reviewed. When the project first started in 2006, illegal crossings totaled 122,261, but by 2010, when the 131-mile fence was completed from one end of El Paso out into the New Mexico desert, immigrant crossings shrank to just 12,251.https://nypost.com/2018/01/13/we-already-have-a-border-wall-and-it-works/
They hit a low of 9,678 in 2012, before slowly ticking back up to a total of 25,193 last year. But they’re still well below pre-fence levels, and the Border Patrol credits the fortified barrier dividing El Paso from Mexico for the reduction in illegal flows.
And crime abated with the reduced human traffic from Juarez, considered one of the most dangerous places in the world due to drug-cartel violence, helping El Paso become one of the safest large cities in America.
Before 2010, federal data show the border city was mired in violent crime and drug smuggling, thanks in large part to illicit activities spilling over from the Mexican side. Once the fence went up, however, things changed almost overnight. El Paso since then has consistently topped rankings for cities of 500,000 residents or more with low crime rates, based on FBI-collected statistics. The turnaround even caught the attention of former Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano and other Obama administration officials, who touted it as one of the nation’s safest cities while citing the beefed-up border security there.
Federal data illustrates just how just how remarkable the turnaround in crime has been since the fence was built. According to FBI tables, property crimes in El Paso have plunged more than 37 percent to 12,357 from their pre-fence peak of 19,702 a year, while violent crimes have dropped more than 6 percent to 2,682 from a peak of 2,861 a year.
So as one can see walls work, the thing is does it merit the cost imposed. It has become fashionable to repeat talking points we hear on TV or in social media without disregard for the facts. In fact, people like you and your ilk have made me more conservative in the last few years, I don't like either party. My wife also feels this way and I have to wonder if others do as well. I think the left is having their Tea Party movement and lurched towards extremism and it will come back to haunt them once their common enemy Pres. Trump leaves as they will destroy each other just like the Tea Party did to the GOP. Enjoy the ride.
I still remember when Trump was criticizing Obama for the shutdown saying a shutdown stops at the top and it makes a president weak. Ah. Trump and his hypocrisy. Never ceases to amaze.
You should know better by now, Moranis. Pres. Trump is a boorish egotist and self promoting most of the time. He is also saying that he never said that Mexico will pay for the wall. I knew what Pres. Trump was before he got elected but I think he gets treated differently by the media than past presidents. Some of this is self inflicted. But honesty was never a strong point for him and never will be...
But he is right about walls working, but the cost my outweigh the results, though the CBO has stated that each illegal costs us 74K or thereabouts.