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Do You Wish We Had Never Signed Hayward?

I wish we had made another decision
14 (35%)
I am still happy with his signing
26 (65%)

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Re: Do You Wish We Had Never Signed Hayward?
« Reply #60 on: October 23, 2018, 05:20:59 PM »

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Hayward will be ok .  He is progressing .  It will be at least Jan before i expect him to be close to his pre injury self

Re: Do You Wish We Had Never Signed Hayward?
« Reply #61 on: October 23, 2018, 09:16:20 PM »

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I can see it now... A poll in a year's time.

Do you regret signing Kyrie Irving to a supermax contract.
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By the way.. Who are the others you are talking about who regretted the Hayward signing?...

I'll go ahead and vote now on the Kyrie contract if you would like.
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Re: Do You Wish We Had Never Signed Hayward?
« Reply #62 on: October 25, 2018, 05:13:08 PM »

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I think Hayward needs a new role. At least while he's getting his feet on the ground. That would be 6th man as offense off the bench.

Tatum and Brown have changed the dynamic the past year. Also Rozier. And seems like Ainge-Stevens haven't completely adjusted to that. Looks like they just stacked all the money together in the starting lineup.

They need to use their athleticism to run more, get better shots and play defense. The emphasis has to be on athleticism. That should be their strength. This is a young team.

And I'd like to see that kid Williams out there rebounding and blocking shots. Playing above the rim. Forget about shooting. Nobody ever taught Russell how to shoot. That was for the shooters. Just do your job.

This is an important year for Stevens. The team has to move up.

Re: Do You Wish We Had Never Signed Hayward?
« Reply #63 on: May 15, 2019, 09:13:28 PM »

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This topic was originally started in mid-October and I was blasted by some for even creating it. Now that the season is complete and we have seen how Hayward's recovery has gone, do you wish we had never signed Hayward?

The OP has been updated. Former poll results from mid-October - one of the most one-sided polls ever on CB: 86-7 for signing Hayward - have been set back to 0 so we can gauge how people feel now.

Re: Do You Wish We Had Never Signed Hayward?
« Reply #64 on: May 15, 2019, 09:16:12 PM »

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UPDATED: Former poll results from October, a blistering: 86-7 for signing Hayward. Have you changed your mind?

Another cold 'harded' poll (sorry KGLL  ;) )

Of course this is based entirely on hindsight. There are many reasons you may want to change your mind on his signing:

More flexibility for future re-signings like Rozier/Morris; other FA signings to make up for the allotment of 30% of our cap space (either last year or in the future); perhaps you wanted DA to trade for George instead.

It is an awful thing to say, but the thought has gone through everybody's heads. What if he's never the same again - are you guys okay with the [significant] cap space he's taking up?

I love Hayward as a player and am still holding out hope that he will once again reach an all-star level, but I can't help but wonder what we could do (or could have done) with max cap space on an already incredible roster - it just doesn't seem fair.

Dude he had a horrific injury

Be a little sensitive

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Re: Do You Wish We Had Never Signed Hayward?
« Reply #65 on: May 15, 2019, 09:17:50 PM »

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I think it's pretty unfair to say no. Hindsight is 20/20, and he'd never really been injured before Jae and LeBron broke his leg. Plus I'm not sure Millsap would really be good for us

Re: Do You Wish We Had Never Signed Hayward?
« Reply #66 on: May 15, 2019, 09:19:07 PM »

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Ashame about his injury.

But its hard to argue that the first 2 years of his contract have been a net negative. I hope he returns to form, but I'm not optimistic.
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Re: Do You Wish We Had Never Signed Hayward?
« Reply #67 on: May 15, 2019, 09:22:52 PM »

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I think it's pretty unfair to say no. Hindsight is 20/20, and he'd never really been injured before Jae and LeBron broke his leg. Plus I'm not sure Millsap would really be good for us

It's totally unfair - hindsight is impossible. I am certainly not try to be cut throat here - just trying to see where CB is on the issue now that the season is over.

Leaving emotion out of it, and assuming Gordon never sees your response, I think it's fair to question the signing. Disclaimer, I was orignally a 'for' vote (barely) so I am not on here to do an 'I told you so' rally, or anything

Re: Do You Wish We Had Never Signed Hayward?
« Reply #68 on: May 15, 2019, 09:24:50 PM »

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Yes, because then he wouldnt have gotten injured.  He'd probably be thriving on some other team.

It was a total fluke injury that was completely unforeseeable.
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Re: Do You Wish We Had Never Signed Hayward?
« Reply #69 on: May 15, 2019, 09:27:47 PM »

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Yes, because then he wouldnt have gotten injured.  He'd probably be thriving on some other team.

It was a total fluke injury that was completely unforeseeable.

That is a very good point (and not one I remember being brought up before). By signing with Boston, an All-Star in his prime has been relegated to average NBA player even after many months of grueling rehab. Had Hayward signed literally anywhere else, he would be a dynamic star beloved by the city in which he was playing.

My vote has now changed to 'wish we had made another decision'. Pho is making a compelling case why the poll results should drastically change this time around (outside of performance, of course).

Re: Do You Wish We Had Never Signed Hayward?
« Reply #70 on: May 15, 2019, 09:31:02 PM »

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Yes, because then he wouldnt have gotten injured.  He'd probably be thriving on some other team.

It was a total fluke injury that was completely unforeseeable.

That is a very good point (and not one I remember being brought up before). By signing with Boston, an All-Star in his prime has been relegated to average NBA player even after many months of grueling rehab. Had Hayward signed literally anywhere else, he would be a dynamic star beloved by the city in which he was playing.

My vote has now changed to 'wish we had made another decision'. Pho is making a compelling case why the poll results should drastically change this time around (outside of performance, of course).
Dang, thinking about it like that is sorta depressing.

Re: Do You Wish We Had Never Signed Hayward?
« Reply #71 on: May 15, 2019, 09:35:22 PM »

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Yes, because then he wouldnt have gotten injured.  He'd probably be thriving on some other team.

It was a total fluke injury that was completely unforeseeable.

That is a very good point (and not one I remember being brought up before). By signing with Boston, an All-Star in his prime has been relegated to average NBA player even after many months of grueling rehab. Had Hayward signed literally anywhere else, he would be a dynamic star beloved by the city in which he was playing.

That's one possibility. He also could've went to literally any other team but plateaued as a nice Khris Middleton type player who's 1 all star appearance proved to be a fluke.

There's a lot of alternate scenarios.
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Re: Do You Wish We Had Never Signed Hayward?
« Reply #72 on: May 15, 2019, 09:55:44 PM »

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I voted no because I think if Hayward had shown no interest then Ainge would have pulled the trigger on Paul George.

Re: Do You Wish We Had Never Signed Hayward?
« Reply #73 on: May 15, 2019, 10:24:56 PM »

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If Hayward returns 100% next year and is back to his old self, he can be a difference maker. If that occurs after Kyrie signs and Davis is traded here, most likely Boston becomes one of the favorites to win the title. If the Celtics win a title with a major contribution from old level Hayward, it will have been a good signing and well worth the wait for him.

Re: Do You Wish We Had Never Signed Hayward?
« Reply #74 on: May 15, 2019, 10:48:43 PM »

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I wish he never snapped his ankle.

 

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