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Re: Kanye West and the vile art of shouting down opponents
« Reply #120 on: October 13, 2018, 08:48:33 PM »

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Facts are that there were two sets of violent morons there, fascists and anarchists.


That is a blatant lie. Show me the source, any official statement, that is talking about violent anarchists.

This is the relevant twitter post by NYPD Comissioner O'Neill

https://twitter.com/NYPDONeill/status/1051204066053943296

No mention of Antifa, or violent anarchists

This is the relevant twitter post by NY AG Underwood

https://twitter.com/NewYorkStateAG/status/1051223895192346624

Again, no mention of Antifa or violent anarchists. They only mention the Proud Boys.

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Re: Kanye West and the vile art of shouting down opponents
« Reply #121 on: October 13, 2018, 08:51:37 PM »

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This a different incident but it clearly shows Antifa destroying property.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_qAULXjfG0

I got a hint for Casperian they are wearing masks so people can't see their faces.  It is part of their modus operandi.  They are not wearing masks because people look cool in masks, it is to hide their identity during their antics.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6inEWnnIlEk

They are totally violent people on both extreme ends of the spectrum.

Re: Kanye West and the vile art of shouting down opponents
« Reply #122 on: October 13, 2018, 09:02:48 PM »

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This a different incident but it clearly shows Antifa destroying property.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_qAULXjfG0

I got a hint for Casperian they are wearing masks so people can't see their faces.  It is part of their modus operandi.  They are not wearing masks because people look cool in masks, it is to hide their identity during their antics.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6inEWnnIlEk

They are totally violent people on both extreme ends of the spectrum.

I know why they're wearing masks. It's because otherwise these right-wing groups would identify them and post their address and identity on social media, dog-whistling to their comrades and calling for violence against them. Happens all the time here in Germany.

Not to mention, due to the nature of the Antifa's loose organizational structure, it's easy for right-wing groups to infiltrate and undermine them by committing violence in their name.

Nice attempt at deflecting, though. But hey, keep going to that well. Keep reaching for straws to keep your silly little "both sides" nonsense up.
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Re: Kanye West and the vile art of shouting down opponents
« Reply #123 on: October 13, 2018, 09:08:22 PM »

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Facts are that there were two sets of violent morons there, fascists and anarchists.


That is a blatant lie. Show me the source, any official statement, that is talking about violent anarchists.

This is the relevant twitter post by NYPD Comissioner O'Neill

https://twitter.com/NYPDONeill/status/1051204066053943296

No mention of Antifa, or violent anarchists

No mention of Proud Boys, either. 

There were three arrests for assault and robbery. Those were arrests of the *protestors*, not the fascists.


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Re: Kanye West and the vile art of shouting down opponents
« Reply #124 on: October 13, 2018, 09:10:26 PM »

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This a different incident but it clearly shows Antifa destroying property.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_qAULXjfG0

I got a hint for Casperian they are wearing masks so people can't see their faces.  It is part of their modus operandi.  They are not wearing masks because people look cool in masks, it is to hide their identity during their antics.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6inEWnnIlEk

They are totally violent people on both extreme ends of the spectrum.

I know why they're wearing masks. It's because otherwise these right-wing groups would identify them and post their address and identity on social media, dog-whistling to their comrades and calling for violence against them. Happens all the time here in Germany.

Not to mention, due to the nature of the Antifa's loose organizational structure, it's easy for right-wing groups to infiltrate and undermine them by committing violence in their name.

Nice attempt at deflecting, though. But hey, keep going to that well. Keep reaching for straws to keep your silly little "both sides" nonsense up.

hide their identity=identify them

Re: Kanye West and the vile art of shouting down opponents
« Reply #125 on: October 13, 2018, 09:14:30 PM »

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This a different incident but it clearly shows Antifa destroying property.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_qAULXjfG0

I got a hint for Casperian they are wearing masks so people can't see their faces.  It is part of their modus operandi.  They are not wearing masks because people look cool in masks, it is to hide their identity during their antics.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6inEWnnIlEk

They are totally violent people on both extreme ends of the spectrum.

I know why they're wearing masks. It's because otherwise these right-wing groups would identify them and post their address and identity on social media, dog-whistling to their comrades and calling for violence against them. Happens all the time here in Germany.

Not to mention, due to the nature of the Antifa's loose organizational structure, it's easy for right-wing groups to infiltrate and undermine them by committing violence in their name.

Nice attempt at deflecting, though. But hey, keep going to that well. Keep reaching for straws to keep your silly little "both sides" nonsense up.

If you think Antifa is some well-meaning, innocent group of do-gooders than you're just being a delusional, biased, partisan.  Period.  Full stop.

Antifa is a violent group of thugs with no respect for the law or civil discourse, and they have no place in society.  They are absolutely not any better than any right wing group that uses violence to spread their message.  Argue that all you want, it doesn't change the truth of the matter or make you right.

Re: Kanye West and the vile art of shouting down opponents
« Reply #126 on: October 14, 2018, 07:24:05 AM »

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I know why they're wearing masks. It's because otherwise these right-wing groups would identify them and post their address and identity on social media, dog-whistling to their comrades and calling for violence against them. Happens all the time here in Germany.

But it is the liberals who usually do that stuff, not the right, here in the US.   

https://www.concordmonitor.com/Former-Hassan-aide-charged-with-posting-personal-data-on-GOP-senators-online-20655245

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Not to mention, due to the nature of the Antifa's loose organizational structure, it's easy for right-wing groups to infiltrate and undermine them by committing violence in their name.

I think as my video shows, which you completely ignore, they already have the violence covered. No one would want to hang out with these losers, they use the same methods as those they detest.   I would not want to hang out with guys from the far right like Skinheads either.

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Nice attempt at deflecting, though. But hey, keep going to that well. Keep reaching for straws to keep your silly little "both sides" nonsense up.

I posted a video which you ignore because it proved you wrong.   I do not see one shred of evidence in your posts.  The only nonsense here is your posts because my have links and facts, yours only opinion and hyperbole.   

DEFLECTION - psychological projection is a theory in psychology in which the human ego defends itself against unconscious impulses or qualities (both positive and negative) by denying their existence in themselves while attributing them to others.

Many here admit violence on both sides, yet you cannot.   Your clearly deflecting.  I love how people on this board latch on to one word or look up a word and use in an argument when they clearly do understand the concept.   I have a counseling degree and a history degree, so maybe try a math word? 

Keep posting this crap maybe you'll believe it more.   So tell me Casperian, your welcome to post all you want, but do you live in the USA?  I am curious?

Re: Kanye West and the vile art of shouting down opponents
« Reply #127 on: October 14, 2018, 11:51:32 AM »

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Enough with the snippiness. Let's stop making this personal and stay on subject. Keep things civil.

Re: Kanye West and the vile art of shouting down opponents
« Reply #128 on: October 14, 2018, 06:00:04 PM »

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Soooo.....

Can we all agree Kanye was an idiot long before he jumped on the Trump train? He doesn't deserve 1% of the attention he gets. Neither does Taylor Swift, though she at least seems somewhat stable.

Some of the media comments about Kanye were out of line. Kanye is entitled to his opinions. Noted.

howzabout we leave it at that and bury this thread?

Re: Kanye West and the vile art of shouting down opponents
« Reply #129 on: October 15, 2018, 09:32:53 AM »

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Soooo.....

Can we all agree Kanye was an idiot long before he jumped on the Trump train? He doesn't deserve 1% of the attention he gets. Neither does Taylor Swift, though she at least seems somewhat stable.

Some of the media comments about Kanye were out of line. Kanye is entitled to his opinions. Noted.

howzabout we leave it at that and bury this thread?

One thing Kanye has given me is show me a little of my own hypocrisy.

This guy:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIUzLpO1kxI

Is fundamentally the same as this guy:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3NPMpqu0hs

Is fundementally the same as this guy:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGUQ23W6PJI

And really, you can only trust the last dude to be consistently his best self.

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