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Re: Paul Manafort bank and tax fraud trial
« Reply #150 on: November 28, 2018, 10:00:17 AM »

Offline heyvik

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I think Mueller is nailing who he can, but remember he said he could not indict a sitting president


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Special counsel Robert S. Mueller IIIís team told President Trumpís lawyers recently that prosecutors do not believe they can charge a sitting president with a crime under Justice Department guidelines, Trump lawyer Rudolph W. Giuliani said Wednesday.

The special counselís conclusion signals that it would be left to Congress to address any finding of wrongdoing by Trump in the investigation. Muellerís team is scrutinizing Russian interference in the 2016 election, whether the Russians coordinated with any Trump associates and whether the president has sought to thwart the probe.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/muellers-team-told-trumps-lawyers-the-special-counsel-cannot-indict-a-sitting-president/2018/05/16/cf4d5700-5961-11e8-858f-12becb4d6067_story.html?noredirect=on

So this means associates is all we get and it will be up to Congress to impeach if he finds something, which may or may not be likely given the GOP control the Senate.  In other words, don't get your hopes up.

Some of this may come back to bite Hillary as well, folks.

https://www.newsweek.com/tony-podesta-robert-mueller-trump-russia-690513

I think that both sides are going to get nailed, in this investigation as both were looking for Russian dirt and manipulated by the Russians.
I hope it does get back to Hillary and any one who is remotely involved. I'm pretty sure that POTUS will be the main focus though.

Re: Paul Manafort bank and tax fraud trial
« Reply #151 on: November 28, 2018, 10:19:27 AM »

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I think Mueller is nailing who he can, but remember he said he could not indict a sitting president


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Special counsel Robert S. Mueller IIIís team told President Trumpís lawyers recently that prosecutors do not believe they can charge a sitting president with a crime under Justice Department guidelines, Trump lawyer Rudolph W. Giuliani said Wednesday.

The special counselís conclusion signals that it would be left to Congress to address any finding of wrongdoing by Trump in the investigation. Muellerís team is scrutinizing Russian interference in the 2016 election, whether the Russians coordinated with any Trump associates and whether the president has sought to thwart the probe.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/muellers-team-told-trumps-lawyers-the-special-counsel-cannot-indict-a-sitting-president/2018/05/16/cf4d5700-5961-11e8-858f-12becb4d6067_story.html?noredirect=on

So this means associates is all we get and it will be up to Congress to impeach if he finds something, which may or may not be likely given the GOP control the Senate.  In other words, don't get your hopes up.

Some of this may come back to bite Hillary as well, folks.

https://www.newsweek.com/tony-podesta-robert-mueller-trump-russia-690513

I think that both sides are going to get nailed, in this investigation as both were looking for Russian dirt and manipulated by the Russians.

Does anyone else think that, if this gets ugly enough, Pence will start looking good to enough R's to swing the vote? Especially those who don't truly support Trump. Many are afraid of being primaried in 2020, but that fear fades with Pence on top and Trump on the outs.
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Re: Paul Manafort bank and tax fraud trial
« Reply #152 on: January 08, 2019, 03:00:02 PM »

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Lol Manafort's lawyers submitted a filing in response to Mueller's claim that Manafort lied to him while "cooperating".  The filing is redacted but sloppily, and could easily be unredacted by copy-pasting into a new document.  Removing redactions revealed:

- while managing Trump's campaign Manafort met with Konstantin Kilimnik (Russian businessman + alleged spy with strong intel connections, already been indicted) in Madrid and shared internal polling data with him.

- Manafort and Kilimnik discussed and shared a "Ukrainian peace plan", possibly the same one Michael Cohen infamously delivered to the White House in 2017.

- Manafort lied about being in contact with senior administration officials after the election, including for months after he was indicted.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/legal-issues/paul-manafort-shared-2016-polling-data-with-russian-employee-according-to-court-filing/2019/01/08/3f562ad8-12b0-11e9-803c-4ef28312c8b9_story.html?


Good stuff. I'm sure that internal polling data was just for making idle conversation, which just happened to randomly veer straight toward a major Russian foreign policy interest.

Re: Paul Manafort bank and tax fraud trial
« Reply #153 on: January 08, 2019, 04:40:47 PM »

Offline Celtics4ever

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Pence will start looking good to enough R's to swing the vote? Especially those who don't truly support Trump. Many are afraid of being primaried in 2020, but that fear fades with Pence on top and Trump on the outs.

Pence is smart, and this may have been his plan all long.   Note how he stays quiet on almost everything.

Re: Paul Manafort bank and tax fraud trial
« Reply #154 on: January 08, 2019, 06:16:51 PM »

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Supreme Court rules against the mysterious 'foreign-country-owned-company' that has been fighting Mueller subpoena:

https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/08/politics/supreme-court-mueller-mystery-case/index.html

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The court's order restores a daily fine the company will face that had been put on hold by Chief Justice John Roberts while the full court considered the issue. It is an apparent loss for the company and marks the full court's first foray into the Mueller probe.
The order will put pressure on the company to turn over information to the grand jury or otherwise cooperate with Mueller as contempt fines continue to accumulate.
The company will have to pay $50,000 a day until it complies by turning over information, the DC Circuit said in an opinion published Tuesday. Those fees haven't yet piled up, but will begin now since the Supreme Court declined earlier Tuesday to freeze the fees.
There were no noted dissents in the high court's two-sentence order.
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