Biggest reason for super team trend

[csfansince60s]

TP for your honesty and accuracy and metaphorical expression.

Ainge constructed his team within the rules.

Bron Bron and company didn’t think they could beat us, so they cheated.

The cHeat and Bron Bron are to blame.

Rules on tampering are hard to enforce because it is so difficult to prove. But if you try to tell me that James and Wade and Bosh and Pat Riley didn’t conspire to put this team together, including the financial moves by Riley to allow it to happen, then Ive got a bridge I want to sell you.

All that followed after that, including Durrant’s gutless  decision to go to Golden State were a direct result of James’ cheating.

Now Kawhi is trying to force his way to the Fakers to join Bron Bron and George to try to beat the Warriors, where Durant is because of LeQueen.

Disgusting.

[dreamgreen]

Players have to much control, owners need to crack down on this.

Keep it clean

Yea sorry I thought it would block it out. I forget sometimes about all the care bears on here and the PC stuff that goes on. That I hate! People better toughen up quickly the world is going to be harder more ruthless place in the near future!

[bdm860]

I think one of the major reasons is how easy it is for these guys to become friends now.

Sure the AAU circuit, high school All-Star games, 5 star camps have been around for decades. So has the "fraternity" of being an elite basketball player.  But over the last 10-15 years or so, it's been so much easier to connect.

Ok, let's think about the '79 McDonald's All American game.  Notable names include Isiah Thomas, Dominique Wilkins, James Worthy amongst others.  Maybe Dominique, Isiah, and Worthy all hit it off.  What are they really going to do about it?  There's no cell phones, there's no Facebook, twitter, etc.  Cordless phones aren't even popular yet and long distance rates are very real.  So they're not writing down their home address and number on a piece of paper so they can write letters to each other (Dear Isiah, how are you?  I'm doing well.  Today I went to the park and put 50 on these jive turkeys.  How is your summer going?  Sincerely 'Nique.),  They're not going to sit in their mom's kitchen calling each other on the phone every week.  And then get a new number/address when they go to college and pass that along, a new one Sophmore year, etc., and then again when they go to the NBA.  I have to think people's contact books were a lot smaller back then and filled with outdated info.  So you meet the other players, but much harder to form those bonds when you maybe only talk to them once or twice a year.


Same thing 2 decades later when guys like Paul Pierce and Kevin Garnett are high school Seniors in '95.  They have cordless phones (and maybe even their own number or cell phone). so they can at least talk privately in their bedrooms.  They can even email.  They might know each other a little better, but still hard to form those bonds.


Now in the next decade, everyone's got email and cellphones, texts, Facebook, Twitter, etc.  Plus you have online gaming.  You can meet another star player at camp or a tournament when you're 15, and be in daily constant contact with them, even though you might only see them once a year.  There's that video of Ben Simmons and Karl Anthony Towns playing video games together online.  I don't think that bond/relationship for 2 non teammates was really possible 20-30 years ago.   It's just something that really started happening in the mid-00's.  It's so easy for these guys to connect and grow friendships now.  That's a big part about what's behind the rise of the super teams I think.

[SHAQATTACK]

the team with the most stars wins .   

the players are  contoling teir movements , not the team .

by not resigning where they are traded , they can force e their way off or on to teams. 

not sure how that can be stopped.

[droopdog7]

For those mentioning the Celtics as a super team, they don’t really fit my definition.  I’m thinking of teams that came together in free agency with players essentially colluding with each other.  The 08 Celtics came together via trades.  That was more the old fashioned way that what you’re seeing nowadays.

[celticsclay]

For those mentioning the Celtics as a super team, they don’t really fit my definition.  I’m thinking of teams that came together in free agency with players essentially colluding with each other.  The 08 Celtics came together via trades.  That was more the old fashioned way that what you’re seeing nowadays.

Also do I really have to remind people ray Allen was 32, coming a season he missed about 25 games with jacked up ankles and was far from super highly coveted. To compare him to Durant or Lebron joining these teams is pretty silly

[saltlover]

For those mentioning the Celtics as a super team, they don’t really fit my definition.  I’m thinking of teams that came together in free agency with players essentially colluding with each other.  The 08 Celtics came together via trades.  That was more the old fashioned way that what you’re seeing nowadays.

Also do I really have to remind people ray Allen was 32, coming a season he missed about 25 games with jacked up ankles and was far from super highly coveted. To compare him to Durant or Lebron joining these teams is pretty silly

Far from highly coveted is a little harsh.  We did give up the #5 overall pick in the draft for him.

[tenn_smoothie]

For those mentioning the Celtics as a super team, they don’t really fit my definition.  I’m thinking of teams that came together in free agency with players essentially colluding with each other.  The 08 Celtics came together via trades.  That was more the old fashioned way that what you’re seeing nowadays.

Also do I really have to remind people ray Allen was 32, coming a season he missed about 25 games with jacked up ankles and was far from super highly coveted.

Far from highly coveted is a little harsh.  We did give up the #5 overall pick in the draft for him.

The #5 draft pick, of course, turned out to be a soft, finesse SF who could not handle the pressure of playing in Boston a few years later.  Jeff Green, by all accounts, seems to be a solid character with a lot of athleticism - but acquiring him later was a huge mistake by Ainge, in my book. Cost us #18.

[Eja117]

Lebron

agreed

[Androslav]

The common thought that if you don't win multiple titles you can't be considered a truly great player.
ABBA said it best; "Winner takes it all!"

[GreenEnvy]

For those mentioning the Celtics as a super team, they don’t really fit my definition.  I’m thinking of teams that came together in free agency with players essentially colluding with each other.  The 08 Celtics came together via trades.  That was more the old fashioned way that what you’re seeing nowadays.

A super team is just 3(+) superstars, regardless of how they came to be. The Celtics were the first superteam in many years. They had 3 perennial all-stars and future HoF’ers still in their primes (albeit the tail end).

The Warriors won 73 games featuring 3 players they drafted. They convinced Durant to join fair and square. Nobody saw that coming but you can’t fault GSW for going after him when they had cap space. Durant on the other hand...

The Cavs drafted Irving and traded for Love. They signed LeBron and you can’t blame him for wanting to come back home.

The only team to ever collude was the Heat.

Even now, elite teams build their group through drafting and trades. OKC drafting RW and trades. Houston trades and drafting. Minny trades and drafting. Toronto drafting. Philly notorious for their drafting.

Surprisingly, the Celtics are the only contender featuring two max free-agents.

[GreenEnvy]

For those mentioning the Celtics as a super team, they don’t really fit my definition.  I’m thinking of teams that came together in free agency with players essentially colluding with each other.  The 08 Celtics came together via trades.  That was more the old fashioned way that what you’re seeing nowadays.

Also do I really have to remind people ray Allen was 32, coming a season he missed about 25 games with jacked up ankles and was far from super highly coveted.

Far from highly coveted is a little harsh.  We did give up the #5 overall pick in the draft for him.

The #5 draft pick, of course, turned out to be a soft, finesse SF who could not handle the pressure of playing in Boston a few years later.  Jeff Green, by all accounts, seems to be a solid character with a lot of athleticism - but acquiring him later was a huge mistake by Ainge, in my book. Cost us #18.

When did he cost us 18? In 2012? When he couldn’t play because of an unforeseen medical issue? Perk was seemingly never the same after his injury in 2010, so I doubt he makes a huge difference against the Heat.

Or maybe you are talking about 2018, when he killed us in Game 7.

Either way, Green may not have lived up to his potential but I don’t think he had such an awful career for the 5th pick. Could have been better, could have been worse. He did okay for himself.

[droopdog7]

For those mentioning the Celtics as a super team, they don’t really fit my definition.  I’m thinking of teams that came together in free agency with players essentially colluding with each other.  The 08 Celtics came together via trades.  That was more the old fashioned way that what you’re seeing nowadays.

A super team is just 3(+) superstars, regardless of how they came to be. The Celtics were the first superteam in many years. They had 3 perennial all-stars and future HoF’ers still in their primes (albeit the tail end).

The Warriors won 73 games featuring 3 players they drafted. They convinced Durant to join fair and square. Nobody saw that coming but you can’t fault GSW for going after him when they had cap space. Durant on the other hand...

The Cavs drafted Irving and traded for Love. They signed LeBron and you can’t blame him for wanting to come back home.

The only team to ever collude was the Heat.

Even now, elite teams build their group through drafting and trades. OKC drafting RW and trades. Houston trades and drafting. Minny trades and drafting. Toronto drafting. Philly notorious for their drafting.

Surprisingly, the Celtics are the only contender featuring two max free-agents.

By that definition you've had super teams for as long as the NBA has been around.  That's not what I mean.  I am referring to player driven team building. The warriors would not fit that description except that durants move was so profound that to me it fits the category.

[Surferdad]

For those mentioning the Celtics as a super team, they don’t really fit my definition.  I’m thinking of teams that came together in free agency with players essentially colluding with each other.  The 08 Celtics came together via trades.  That was more the old fashioned way that what you’re seeing nowadays.

A super team is just 3(+) superstars, regardless of how they came to be. The Celtics were the first superteam in many years. They had 3 perennial all-stars and future HoF’ers still in their primes (albeit the tail end).

The Warriors won 73 games featuring 3 players they drafted. They convinced Durant to join fair and square. Nobody saw that coming but you can’t fault GSW for going after him when they had cap space. Durant on the other hand...

The Cavs drafted Irving and traded for Love. They signed LeBron and you can’t blame him for wanting to come back home.

The only team to ever collude was the Heat.

Even now, elite teams build their group through drafting and trades. OKC drafting RW and trades. Houston trades and drafting. Minny trades and drafting. Toronto drafting. Philly notorious for their drafting.

Surprisingly, the Celtics are the only contender featuring two max free-agents.

I get the feeling that is about to change...

[slamtheking]

For those mentioning the Celtics as a super team, they don’t really fit my definition.  I’m thinking of teams that came together in free agency with players essentially colluding with each other.  The 08 Celtics came together via trades.  That was more the old fashioned way that what you’re seeing nowadays.

A super team is just 3(+) superstars, regardless of how they came to be. The Celtics were the first superteam in many years. They had 3 perennial all-stars and future HoF’ers still in their primes (albeit the tail end).

The Warriors won 73 games featuring 3 players they drafted. They convinced Durant to join fair and square. Nobody saw that coming but you can’t fault GSW for going after him when they had cap space. Durant on the other hand...

The Cavs drafted Irving and traded for Love. They signed LeBron and you can’t blame him for wanting to come back home.

The only team to ever collude was the Heat.

Even now, elite teams build their group through drafting and trades. OKC drafting RW and trades. Houston trades and drafting. Minny trades and drafting. Toronto drafting. Philly notorious for their drafting.

Surprisingly, the Celtics are the only contender featuring two max free-agents.

this is how I see it as well.  So far, the Heat are the primary 'team' culprits in this stunt.  Durant is the primary 'individual' example.

I have no issue with teams improving themselves via drafting or trades or even free agency (when they've gone after free agents without colluding with them or the players themselves colluding to play together). 

If Lebron (who was under contract to Cleveland) orchestrates a 'superteam' for the Lakers by colluding with Kawhi (also under contract to a different team) and possibly Paul George (who is a FA free to do as he pleases), it should be prevented by the league office for the good of the game.  The Miami fiasco was bad enough with Wade already there and Bron colluding with Bosh (and Miami mgmt) to join forces there but at least in that circumstance, Bron and Bosh were FAs and Wade was already on the team they joined.  This should be stopped before this can occur.