Ben Simmons wins Rookie of the Year

[gouki88]

Other awards to follow:

Rudy Gobert wins DPOY.
Victor Oladipo wins MIP.
Lou Williams wins 6MOTY.

Crazy that AD isn’t DPOY

IMO, AD's the best defensive big man, but Gobert does do a lot defensively. The difference is AD carried a team offensively after Cousins got hurt, AND played stellar D all the while. Gobert adds next to nothing on offense and can expend most of his energy on the defensive end.

Oh yeah for sure, Gobert is a stellar defender. But he only played ~50 games, which makes it hard to justify him winning an award

[CelticsElite]

Did anyone see the truck that Donovan Mitchell arrived in? 

[tazzmaniac]

So will Fultz be in the running next year? What about Smith after the 2019-2020 season? 

Fultz played 14 games this season so no he won't be a rookie next season.  Simmons deserved ROY.  Coming in like he did playing PG for the 1st time and putting up 15.8 points, 8.2 assists, 8.1 rebounds and 1.7 steals in 81 games while leading the Sixers to 52 wins.

IMO, I would have voted for Mitchell. He carried UT offensively. Simmons did not carry a well rounded Philly team. As well as Jayson played, he could stand by and let Kyrie carry the load most of the season. Mitchell didn't have the luxury either of the other guys had.

Simmons is a great talent, but he's not a rookie, and he didn't accomplish as much as Mitchell. Mitchell should have won.

What did Mitchell accomplish?  If you average 17.2 shots with 7 of them being 3s, you should average 20 points a game.  His 3pt% was only 34%.  Utah didn't start winning until Gobert came back. 

Playing PG is much tougher.  Young PGs just don't do what Simmons did and that was his 1st year being a PG.  Simmons arguably should have been an All-star this season. 

[CelticsElite]

So will Fultz be in the running next year? What about Smith after the 2019-2020 season? 

Fultz played 14 games this season so no he won't be a rookie next season.  Simmons deserved ROY.  Coming in like he did playing PG for the 1st time and putting up 15.8 points, 8.2 assists, 8.1 rebounds and 1.7 steals in 81 games while leading the Sixers to 52 wins.

IMO, I would have voted for Mitchell. He carried UT offensively. Simmons did not carry a well rounded Philly team. As well as Jayson played, he could stand by and let Kyrie carry the load most of the season. Mitchell didn't have the luxury either of the other guys had.

Simmons is a great talent, but he's not a rookie, and he didn't accomplish as much as Mitchell. Mitchell should have won.

What did Mitchell accomplish?  If you average 17.2 shots with 7 of them being 3s, you should average 20 points a game.  His 3pt% was only 34%.  Utah didn't start winning until Gobert came back. 

Playing PG is much tougher.  Young PGs just don't do what Simmons did and that was his 1st year being a PG.  Simmons arguably should have been an All-star this season.

Mitchell shot 34% from 3
Tatum shot 48% from 3.
Simmons shot 0% from 3

No rookie starting guard has ever shot so bad from 3 as simmons did. He made nba history as the worst 3 pt shot from a rookie guard ever

[CelticsElite]

So will Fultz be in the running next year? What about Smith after the 2019-2020 season? 

Fultz played 14 games this season so no he won't be a rookie next season.  Simmons deserved ROY.  Coming in like he did playing PG for the 1st time and putting up 15.8 points, 8.2 assists, 8.1 rebounds and 1.7 steals in 81 games while leading the Sixers to 52 wins.

IMO, I would have voted for Mitchell. He carried UT offensively. Simmons did not carry a well rounded Philly team. As well as Jayson played, he could stand by and let Kyrie carry the load most of the season. Mitchell didn't have the luxury either of the other guys had.

Simmons is a great talent, but he's not a rookie, and he didn't accomplish as much as Mitchell. Mitchell should have won.

What did Mitchell accomplish?  If you average 17.2 shots with 7 of them being 3s, you should average 20 points a game.  His 3pt% was only 34%.  Utah didn't start winning until Gobert came back. 

Playing PG is much tougher.  Young PGs just don't do what Simmons did and that was his 1st year being a PG.  Simmons arguably should have been an All-star this season.

Mitchell shot 34% from 3
Tatum shot 48% from 3.
Simmons shot 0% from 3

No rookie starting guard has ever shot so bad from 3 as simmons did. He made nba history as the worst 3 pt shot from a rookie guard ever

[tazzmaniac]

So will Fultz be in the running next year? What about Smith after the 2019-2020 season? 

Fultz played 14 games this season so no he won't be a rookie next season.  Simmons deserved ROY.  Coming in like he did playing PG for the 1st time and putting up 15.8 points, 8.2 assists, 8.1 rebounds and 1.7 steals in 81 games while leading the Sixers to 52 wins.

Is baseball the only sport where you can get some burn one season and still be considered a rookie the following season?

I suppose it’s tied to having a farm system, because part of the eligibility requires he player to be on the big league roster fewer than a certain amount of days.

No.  Auto racing and NHL allow some prior experience too. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rookie

[rondofan1255]

Mitchell wasn't the team PG in college. Snider was the PG typically bringing the ball up and running the offense.

Only time when Mitchell played PG full-time was when Snider missed six games due to injury in 2016-2017...Pitino misused Donovan, which is why who knows maybe Robert Williams will be much better than expected in a different system...

Also, Pitino played two non-shooting bigs and teams would clog the paint lol (Jaylen Johnson, Mangok Mathiang, Anas Mahmoud, Ray Spalding all awful shooters)...

[nickagneta]

So will Fultz be in the running next year? What about Smith after the 2019-2020 season? 

Fultz played 14 games this season so no he won't be a rookie next season.  Simmons deserved ROY.  Coming in like he did playing PG for the 1st time and putting up 15.8 points, 8.2 assists, 8.1 rebounds and 1.7 steals in 81 games while leading the Sixers to 52 wins.

IMO, I would have voted for Mitchell. He carried UT offensively. Simmons did not carry a well rounded Philly team. As well as Jayson played, he could stand by and let Kyrie carry the load most of the season. Mitchell didn't have the luxury either of the other guys had.

Simmons is a great talent, but he's not a rookie, and he didn't accomplish as much as Mitchell. Mitchell should have won.

What did Mitchell accomplish?  If you average 17.2 shots with 7 of them being 3s, you should average 20 points a game.  His 3pt% was only 34%.  Utah didn't start winning until Gobert came back. 

Playing PG is much tougher.  Young PGs just don't do what Simmons did and that was his 1st year being a PG.  Simmons arguably should have been an All-star this season.

I agree with you Simmons deserved the ROY award, but sorry, he wasn't an All-Star this year. He's a PG and in the East Kyrie, Wall and Lowry were better PGs. And Oladipo, Beal and DeRozan had better seasons as guards.

Until Simmons can hit mid range to outside shots, I don't see him as All Star material. Cs exposed him in the playoffs.

[chiken Green]

He had a year head start.. He should have won it..

[tazzmaniac]

So will Fultz be in the running next year? What about Smith after the 2019-2020 season? 

Fultz played 14 games this season so no he won't be a rookie next season.  Simmons deserved ROY.  Coming in like he did playing PG for the 1st time and putting up 15.8 points, 8.2 assists, 8.1 rebounds and 1.7 steals in 81 games while leading the Sixers to 52 wins.

IMO, I would have voted for Mitchell. He carried UT offensively. Simmons did not carry a well rounded Philly team. As well as Jayson played, he could stand by and let Kyrie carry the load most of the season. Mitchell didn't have the luxury either of the other guys had.

Simmons is a great talent, but he's not a rookie, and he didn't accomplish as much as Mitchell. Mitchell should have won.

What did Mitchell accomplish?  If you average 17.2 shots with 7 of them being 3s, you should average 20 points a game.  His 3pt% was only 34%.  Utah didn't start winning until Gobert came back. 

Playing PG is much tougher.  Young PGs just don't do what Simmons did and that was his 1st year being a PG.  Simmons arguably should have been an All-star this season.

Mitchell shot 34% from 3
Tatum shot 48% from 3.
Simmons shot 0% from 3

No rookie starting guard has ever shot so bad from 3 as simmons did. He made nba history as the worst 3 pt shot from a rookie guard ever

The award is rookie of the year not rookie 3pt shooter of the year.  The only 3pt shots Simmons took were heaves at the end of quarters.  But here are some shooting numbers and overall numbers.     

                  EFG%    TS%
Mitchell       50.6      54.1
Simmons     54.5      55.7
Tatum         53.8      58.6

                 MIN  REB  AST   BLK   STL   PF   TO    PTS   
Mitchell      33.4  3.7   3.7    0.3   1.5   2.7   2.7   20.5
Simmons    33.7  8.1   8.2    0.9   1.7   2.6   3.4   15.8
Tatum        30.5  5.0   1.6    0.7   1.0   2.1   1.4   13.9 

[tazzmaniac]

So will Fultz be in the running next year? What about Smith after the 2019-2020 season? 

Fultz played 14 games this season so no he won't be a rookie next season.  Simmons deserved ROY.  Coming in like he did playing PG for the 1st time and putting up 15.8 points, 8.2 assists, 8.1 rebounds and 1.7 steals in 81 games while leading the Sixers to 52 wins.

IMO, I would have voted for Mitchell. He carried UT offensively. Simmons did not carry a well rounded Philly team. As well as Jayson played, he could stand by and let Kyrie carry the load most of the season. Mitchell didn't have the luxury either of the other guys had.

Simmons is a great talent, but he's not a rookie, and he didn't accomplish as much as Mitchell. Mitchell should have won.

What did Mitchell accomplish?  If you average 17.2 shots with 7 of them being 3s, you should average 20 points a game.  His 3pt% was only 34%.  Utah didn't start winning until Gobert came back. 

Playing PG is much tougher.  Young PGs just don't do what Simmons did and that was his 1st year being a PG.  Simmons arguably should have been an All-star this season.

I agree with you Simmons deserved the ROY award, but sorry, he wasn't an All-Star this year. He's a PG and in the East Kyrie, Wall and Lowry were better PGs. And Oladipo, Beal and DeRozan had better seasons as guards.

Until Simmons can hit mid range to outside shots, I don't see him as All Star material. Cs exposed him in the playoffs.

I was taking into account injuries.  No way Dragic deserved to be an All-star over Simmons. 
I think Wall is significantly overrated and Lowry didn't have that good of a season.  His scoring was way down. 

[hpantazo]

If the voting had taken place after the playoffs and included playoff performances , Tatum would have won.

[tazzmaniac]

If the voting had taken place after the playoffs and included playoff performances , Tatum would have won.

These are regular season awards. 

[smokeablount]

If the voting had taken place after the playoffs and included playoff performances , Tatum would have won.

These are regular season awards.

Hey Bryan... is this your only Celticsblog account? Or is Larbrd33 you as well?

Hope early retirement is treating you well.

[tazzmaniac]

If the voting had taken place after the playoffs and included playoff performances , Tatum would have won.

These are regular season awards.

Hey Bryan... is this your only Celticsblog account? Or is Larbrd33 you as well?

Hope early retirement is treating you well.

Who is Bryan?  Definitely not Larbrd33.