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Re: Joakim looking for a new home?
« Reply #75 on: August 09, 2018, 12:53:19 PM »

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Keep looking Jo, I hear the Big 3 league is up and coming.

Re: Joakim looking for a new home?
« Reply #76 on: August 09, 2018, 02:48:35 PM »

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Re: Joakim looking for a new home?
« Reply #77 on: August 10, 2018, 09:28:54 AM »

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When Horford was quoted last year that Noah still had game I thought about and it might be true.  If Noah is ok physically (who knows), I do think he's worth a small gamble look.  You never know, he just might be another Horford.

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« Reply #78 on: August 10, 2018, 10:53:32 AM »

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Re: Joakim looking for a new home?
« Reply #79 on: August 10, 2018, 11:15:05 AM »

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I still can't believe it has only been 4 seasons since Noah finished 4th in MVP voting after the 13-14 season when he was just 28 years old.  Talk about a fast fall from grace. 
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Re: Joakim looking for a new home?
« Reply #80 on: August 13, 2018, 02:48:13 PM »

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He's always hurt, and he looks like he running on empty.

That said, I did like his game 4 or 5 years ago.

Re: Joakim looking for a new home?
« Reply #81 on: August 13, 2018, 02:52:09 PM »

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Never liked his game or his personality. No in his prime, no when he’s fried.

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If Monroe couldn’t get burn in the playoffs, what is he going to provide in Stevens system? Utterly useless, if you want him for depth, we are screwed if we have to rely on him anyway.
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Re: Joakim looking for a new home?
« Reply #82 on: August 13, 2018, 03:02:19 PM »

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If this happens, I think this means that the Knicks are out of the running for a two superstar summer.

By my count, if they stretched Noah, renounced all free agents except Zinger, and traded Lee and Hardaway. they would only have about 56 million dollars in space. That would leave room for one max guy and one 24 million dollar free agent.

Even assuming a superstar and all-star level player would do that, would that core be a contender? Nah. And they would only have 7 guys on the roster.

Waiving Noah might open up some cap space, but the inability to trade his contract is going to cost them about 7.5 million in space, which is the difference between two max contracts and a max contract + an 80% contract.

They'd have to trade one of their garbage contracts for one of their targets. Problem is they'd almost definitely have to trade one or more of their young core to do it. Would Zinger plus Noah for Kyrie have any appeal here? Kyrie opts out and that gives maybe them room to maybe go get KD and Butler, then go over the cap to sign Kyrie as they would have his bird rights. IDK, just thinking out loud..

Kyrie's cap hold is too large, so he'd presumably need to be signed first. Aldo the knicks have another $30M in toxic contracts which will be very hard to move. If they traded for Irving (which IMO is unlikely with Noahs contract unless there's a third team involved) they'd only have room for one additional max at best. So MAYBE Kyrie + Butler.

And if they can dump Noah and wait for Kyrie in free agency, maybe they keep Porzingis. But IMO Kyrie Porzingis and Butler is not enough to win a championship.

He would be stupid to leave here, I don't think it's happening.

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« Reply #83 on: August 13, 2018, 04:00:29 PM »

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we had a more healthy athletic version of Joakim, (greg monroe) last year and i still wanted to buy his ticket out of Boston.
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« Reply #84 on: August 13, 2018, 05:37:21 PM »

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Re: Joakim looking for a new home?
« Reply #85 on: August 13, 2018, 06:08:53 PM »

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I still can't believe it has only been 4 seasons since Noah finished 4th in MVP voting after the 13-14 season when he was just 28 years old.  Talk about a fast fall from grace.

The fact that Noah ever finished in the top five for the MVP award in any season is a complete and utter joke, imo.

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« Reply #86 on: August 13, 2018, 07:47:18 PM »

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we had a more healthy athletic version of Joakim, (greg monroe) last year and i still wanted to buy his ticket out of Boston.
Noah is washed up but he was excellent for a few years.  And he’s nothing like Monroe other than rebounding ability.  One is an offensive player and one is a defensive player.

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« Reply #87 on: August 13, 2018, 07:48:09 PM »

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we had a more healthy athletic version of Joakim, (greg monroe) last year and i still wanted to buy his ticket out of Boston.
Noah is washed up but he was excellent for a few years.  And he’s nothing like Monroe other than rebounding ability.  One is an offensive player and one is a defensive player.
I too am struggling to see any similarity between Moose and Noah, except that they're both NBA big men.
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Re: Joakim looking for a new home?
« Reply #88 on: August 14, 2018, 11:34:59 AM »

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we had a more healthy athletic version of Joakim, (greg monroe) last year and i still wanted to buy his ticket out of Boston.
Noah is washed up but he was excellent for a few years.  And he’s nothing like Monroe other than rebounding ability.  One is an offensive player and one is a defensive player.
I too am struggling to see any similarity between Moose and Noah, except that they're both NBA big men.

On defense,  they are virtually identical in uselessness. Have you see Noah switched on a guard recently? Goodness
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« Reply #89 on: August 14, 2018, 11:46:38 AM »

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Some players just fall off a cliff earlier than others.  Noah hit that wall right around age 30, which is unusual for a player who had recently been of All-Star caliber, but it happens.  Same thing happened to Gerald Wallace.  All-Star at 27 (and probably should have been at 25 or 26), and washed up by age 30.  Never would have seen it coming for either.  Sure, they could have been past their peak, but to go from star level to unplayable in 2-3 years, without having experienced a major traumatic injury like an ACL or Achilles, was quite surprising for a player turning 30.  Same thing happened with Luol Deng too. 

Just something to keep in mind when signing players to long contracts who’ve reached 30.  You’re starting to reach the danger zone, even if the odds are still in your favor for the early 30s.