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Re: Article: Wyc Grousbeck & Ainge "Knew". Results So Far PROVE IT!
« Reply #15 on: May 16, 2018, 02:01:49 PM »

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Let's face it, the Main problem with last year, was the big man "toughness"...Zeller/Amir/Kelly were as WEAK as you can get up front.
I disagree.

The main weakness was at the wing/guard position. We went from one of the smallest teams at the wing (only Crowder was even average size unless you consider Jerebko a wing I don't) to a huge one.

Bradley/Smart/Crowder/Rozier/Brown gave way to Brown/Tatum/Morris/Smart/Semi.

And Brown was basically Semi during last years playoffs, more O but way worse D overall. Now he's playing at an all-star caliber when he hasn't been limited by injury.

This seems right. Every player at the 1-3 spots was a positional oddball, and had at least one serious limitation on the defensive end. The idea of doing all the switching we do now with IT and Bradley seems ridiculous.


Re: Article: Wyc Grousbeck & Ainge "Knew". Results So Far PROVE IT!
« Reply #16 on: May 16, 2018, 02:43:48 PM »

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Let's face it, the Main problem with last year, was the big man "toughness"...Zeller/Amir/Kelly were as WEAK as you can get up front.
I disagree.

The main weakness was at the wing/guard position. We went from one of the smallest teams at the wing (only Crowder was even average size unless you consider Jerebko a wing I don't) to a huge one.

Bradley/Smart/Crowder/Rozier/Brown gave way to Brown/Tatum/Morris/Smart/Semi.

And Brown was basically Semi during last years playoffs, more O but way worse D overall. Now he's playing at an all-star caliber when he hasn't been limited by injury.

This seems right. Every player at the 1-3 spots was a positional oddball, and had at least one serious limitation on the defensive end. The idea of doing all the switching we do now with IT and Bradley seems ridiculous.

Also, Crowder's defense was just awful last year. Idk what happened but he no longer looked like the elite defender he was made out to be.

I mean, Morris is actually locking down James well and scoring too. Crowder did neither last year and Lebron killed him all series.
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Re: Article: Wyc Grousbeck & Ainge "Knew". Results So Far PROVE IT!
« Reply #17 on: May 16, 2018, 02:48:36 PM »

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Let's face it, the Main problem with last year, was the big man "toughness"...Zeller/Amir/Kelly were as WEAK as you can get up front.
I disagree.

The main weakness was at the wing/guard position. We went from one of the smallest teams at the wing (only Crowder was even average size unless you consider Jerebko a wing I don't) to a huge one.

Bradley/Smart/Crowder/Rozier/Brown gave way to Brown/Tatum/Morris/Smart/Semi.

And Brown was basically Semi during last years playoffs, more O but way worse D overall. Now he's playing at an all-star caliber when he hasn't been limited by injury.

This seems right. Every player at the 1-3 spots was a positional oddball, and had at least one serious limitation on the defensive end. The idea of doing all the switching we do now with IT and Bradley seems ridiculous.

Also, Crowder's defense was just awful last year. Idk what happened but he no longer looked like the elite defender he was made out to be.

I mean, Morris is actually locking down James well and scoring too. Crowder did neither last year and Lebron killed him all series.

Lebron looks tired to me.  He's logged a lot of miles on those legs going to the Finals every year.  This year he had the least amount of support he's had in a long time.  I think its all finally caught up to him.  After the first quarter he just settled for mid range and perimeter shots all game, and played no defense.  He looks spent. 

Re: Article: Wyc Grousbeck & Ainge "Knew". Results So Far PROVE IT!
« Reply #18 on: May 16, 2018, 04:18:19 PM »

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Let's face it, the Main problem with last year, was the big man "toughness"...Zeller/Amir/Kelly were as WEAK as you can get up front.
I disagree.

The main weakness was at the wing/guard position. We went from one of the smallest teams at the wing (only Crowder was even average size unless you consider Jerebko a wing I don't) to a huge one.

Bradley/Smart/Crowder/Rozier/Brown gave way to Brown/Tatum/Morris/Smart/Semi.

And Brown was basically Semi during last years playoffs, more O but way worse D overall. Now he's playing at an all-star caliber when he hasn't been limited by injury.

This seems right. Every player at the 1-3 spots was a positional oddball, and had at least one serious limitation on the defensive end. The idea of doing all the switching we do now with IT and Bradley seems ridiculous.

Also, Crowder's defense was just awful last year. Idk what happened but he no longer looked like the elite defender he was made out to be.

I mean, Morris is actually locking down James well and scoring too. Crowder did neither last year and Lebron killed him all series.

Lebron looks tired to me.  He's logged a lot of miles on those legs going to the Finals every year.  This year he had the least amount of support he's had in a long time.  I think its all finally caught up to him.  After the first quarter he just settled for mid range and perimeter shots all game, and played no defense.  He looks spent.

That's true.

The difference is also, the C's are making him work hard even for those jumpers and perimeter shots. Last year, it was like Crowder and Olynyk (on switches) just gave James 10 feet of space to shoot open looks. Of course, he cooked us as a result in four of the five games (except Game 3).

I do agree that against the Cavaliers, even if we start slow, the key is staying in the game. That whole team seems to fold and tire out by the middle of the 3rd quarter. As absurd as that sounds, it's looked that way in Games 1 and 2.
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Re: Article: Wyc Grousbeck & Ainge "Knew". Results So Far PROVE IT!
« Reply #19 on: May 16, 2018, 07:54:46 PM »

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it was pretty obvious after Ainge blew up the team and people were surprised.

its also the difference between a franchise like the Raptors and the Celtics. This ownership isn't content with just making the ECF and having a good season....they want to WIN the finals and bring back banner 18 and maybe more.

I dont think the Raptors have the guts to trade Derozan/Lowry and try and restructure their team...

Re: Article: Wyc Grousbeck & Ainge "Knew". Results So Far PROVE IT!
« Reply #20 on: May 16, 2018, 10:37:18 PM »

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Letís be honest  a lot of people said the same thing and even asked for IT to be traded and were crucified on the blog.  You gotta be able to recognize your value of what you have.

I was one of those.

Re: Article: Wyc Grousbeck & Ainge "Knew". Results So Far PROVE IT!
« Reply #21 on: May 16, 2018, 10:42:05 PM »

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Wyc does not get enough credit, he is the best owner is all of sports.

Re: Article: Wyc Grousbeck & Ainge "Knew". Results So Far PROVE IT!
« Reply #22 on: May 16, 2018, 10:46:37 PM »

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Letís be honest  a lot of people said the same thing and even asked for IT to be traded and were crucified on the blog.  You gotta be able to recognize your value of what you have.

I was one of those.

I wasn't  :P
Phoenix Suns Mock Trade Deadline Roster
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PF: Bridges/Anderson/Bender/Acy
C: Ayton/Holmes
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Re: Article: Wyc Grousbeck & Ainge "Knew". Results So Far PROVE IT!
« Reply #23 on: May 16, 2018, 11:02:52 PM »

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Let's face it, the Main problem with last year, was the big man "toughness"...Zeller/Amir/Kelly were as WEAK as you can get up front.
It's good to know that Wyc was as sick and tired of watching Olynk and Zeller as many of us were.

Re: Article: Wyc Grousbeck & Ainge "Knew". Results So Far PROVE IT!
« Reply #24 on: May 17, 2018, 09:32:49 PM »

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Let's face it, the Main problem with last year, was the big man "toughness"...Zeller/Amir/Kelly were as WEAK as you can get up front.
It's good to know that Wyc was as sick and tired of watching Olynk and Zeller as many of us were.

It was embarrassing when Robin Lopez and Marcin Gortat looked like Prime Shaq against us during the playoffs. Also, Olynyk's inconsistency was just maddening. His pump fakes on WIDE OPEN shots too (UGH)
Phoenix Suns Mock Trade Deadline Roster
PG: Melton/Okobo
SG: Booker/Crawford/Daniels
SF: Warren/Oubre/Jackson/King
PF: Bridges/Anderson/Bender/Acy
C: Ayton/Holmes
Future Picks: https://basketball.realgm.com/nba/draft/future_drafts/detailed

Re: Article: Wyc Grousbeck & Ainge "Knew". Results So Far PROVE IT!
« Reply #25 on: May 17, 2018, 09:38:41 PM »

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Let's face it, the Main problem with last year, was the big man "toughness"...Zeller/Amir/Kelly were as WEAK as you can get up front.
It's good to know that Wyc was as sick and tired of watching Olynk and Zeller as many of us were.

It was embarrassing when Robin Lopez and Marcin Gortat looked like Prime Shaq against us during the playoffs. Also, Olynyk's inconsistency was just maddening. His pump fakes on WIDE OPEN shots too (UGH)
Oh man, nightmare fuel. Glad he's a South Beach problem now
C: Gasol, McGee, Zubac, Chandler, Wagner
F: LeBron, Kuzma, Brooks, Stephenson, Mykhailiuk
G: Rondo, Ingram, Hart, Mack, Bonga
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C: Gobert, Udoh
F: Ingles, Favors, Crowder, O'Neale, Sefolosha, Niang
G: Mitchell, Rubio, Exum, Korver, Allen, Neto

Re: Article: Wyc Grousbeck & Ainge "Knew". Results So Far PROVE IT!
« Reply #26 on: May 17, 2018, 09:40:10 PM »

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Let's face it, the Main problem with last year, was the big man "toughness"...Zeller/Amir/Kelly were as WEAK as you can get up front.
It's good to know that Wyc was as sick and tired of watching Olynk and Zeller as many of us were.

It was embarrassing when Robin Lopez and Marcin Gortat looked like Prime Shaq against us during the playoffs. Also, Olynyk's inconsistency was just maddening. His pump fakes on WIDE OPEN shots too (UGH)
Oh man, nightmare fuel. Glad he's a South Beach problem now

Yeah. Can you imagine last year's front court dealing with Giannis, Embiid and Tristan Thompson during this playoff run? YIKES.  :o

So glad we have Baynes, Morris and Monroe.
Phoenix Suns Mock Trade Deadline Roster
PG: Melton/Okobo
SG: Booker/Crawford/Daniels
SF: Warren/Oubre/Jackson/King
PF: Bridges/Anderson/Bender/Acy
C: Ayton/Holmes
Future Picks: https://basketball.realgm.com/nba/draft/future_drafts/detailed

Re: Article: Wyc Grousbeck & Ainge "Knew". Results So Far PROVE IT!
« Reply #27 on: May 17, 2018, 09:44:35 PM »

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Let's face it, the Main problem with last year, was the big man "toughness"...Zeller/Amir/Kelly were as WEAK as you can get up front.
It's good to know that Wyc was as sick and tired of watching Olynk and Zeller as many of us were.

It was embarrassing when Robin Lopez and Marcin Gortat looked like Prime Shaq against us during the playoffs. Also, Olynyk's inconsistency was just maddening. His pump fakes on WIDE OPEN shots too (UGH)
Oh man, nightmare fuel. Glad he's a South Beach problem now

Yeah. Can you imagine last year's front court dealing with Giannis, Embiid and Tristan Thompson during this playoff run? YIKES.  :o

So glad we have Baynes, Morris and Monroe.
Zeller on Embiid! Lock him up Ty!!!

Love that we have Baynes, Monroe, Mook and Theis (wish he was healthy) now
C: Gasol, McGee, Zubac, Chandler, Wagner
F: LeBron, Kuzma, Brooks, Stephenson, Mykhailiuk
G: Rondo, Ingram, Hart, Mack, Bonga
https://basketball.realgm.com/nba/draft/future_drafts/team
C: Gobert, Udoh
F: Ingles, Favors, Crowder, O'Neale, Sefolosha, Niang
G: Mitchell, Rubio, Exum, Korver, Allen, Neto

Re: Article: Wyc Grousbeck & Ainge "Knew". Results So Far PROVE IT!
« Reply #28 on: May 17, 2018, 09:47:48 PM »

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Let's face it, the Main problem with last year, was the big man "toughness"...Zeller/Amir/Kelly were as WEAK as you can get up front.
It's good to know that Wyc was as sick and tired of watching Olynk and Zeller as many of us were.

It was embarrassing when Robin Lopez and Marcin Gortat looked like Prime Shaq against us during the playoffs. Also, Olynyk's inconsistency was just maddening. His pump fakes on WIDE OPEN shots too (UGH)
Oh man, nightmare fuel. Glad he's a South Beach problem now

Yeah. Can you imagine last year's front court dealing with Giannis, Embiid and Tristan Thompson during this playoff run? YIKES.  :o

So glad we have Baynes, Morris and Monroe.
Zeller on Embiid! Lock him up Ty!!!

Love that we have Baynes, Monroe, Mook and Theis (wish he was healthy) now

Yeah I didn't include Theis because unfortunately he's injured now.

But he should be another key piece in our (hopefully healthy) championship run next year!
Phoenix Suns Mock Trade Deadline Roster
PG: Melton/Okobo
SG: Booker/Crawford/Daniels
SF: Warren/Oubre/Jackson/King
PF: Bridges/Anderson/Bender/Acy
C: Ayton/Holmes
Future Picks: https://basketball.realgm.com/nba/draft/future_drafts/detailed

Re: Article: Wyc Grousbeck & Ainge "Knew". Results So Far PROVE IT!
« Reply #29 on: May 17, 2018, 09:50:16 PM »

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Let's face it, the Main problem with last year, was the big man "toughness"...Zeller/Amir/Kelly were as WEAK as you can get up front.
It's good to know that Wyc was as sick and tired of watching Olynk and Zeller as many of us were.

It was embarrassing when Robin Lopez and Marcin Gortat looked like Prime Shaq against us during the playoffs. Also, Olynyk's inconsistency was just maddening. His pump fakes on WIDE OPEN shots too (UGH)
Oh man, nightmare fuel. Glad he's a South Beach problem now

Yeah. Can you imagine last year's front court dealing with Giannis, Embiid and Tristan Thompson during this playoff run? YIKES.  :o

So glad we have Baynes, Morris and Monroe.
Zeller on Embiid! Lock him up Ty!!!

Love that we have Baynes, Monroe, Mook and Theis (wish he was healthy) now

Yeah I didn't include Theis because unfortunately he's injured now.

But he should be another key piece in our (hopefully healthy) championship run next year!
Yeah, we'll need him for our back to back ;) and then for our double three-peat
C: Gasol, McGee, Zubac, Chandler, Wagner
F: LeBron, Kuzma, Brooks, Stephenson, Mykhailiuk
G: Rondo, Ingram, Hart, Mack, Bonga
https://basketball.realgm.com/nba/draft/future_drafts/team
C: Gobert, Udoh
F: Ingles, Favors, Crowder, O'Neale, Sefolosha, Niang
G: Mitchell, Rubio, Exum, Korver, Allen, Neto

 

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