I get it now. The NBA equivalent of Marcus Smart is.....

[Big333223]

If he’s Rodman, then he needs to recognize that not every shot is a good shot. Rodman shot above 50% for his career because he knew his limitations.

Rodman also played in an era where he could remove himself from the offense and drag a defender out of the play or be left wide open. Smart doesn't have the same luxury with the old illegal defense rules gone. Smart needs to work on his shooting and shot selection but he also can't be a non factor the way Rodman was for a bunch of his career.

[Roy H.]

If he’s Rodman, then he needs to recognize that not every shot is a good shot. Rodman shot above 50% for his career because he knew his limitations.

Rodman also played in an era where he could remove himself from the offense and drag a defender out of the play or be left wide open. Smart doesn't have the same luxury with the old illegal defense rules gone. Smart needs to work on his shooting and shot selection but he also can't be a non factor the way Rodman was for a bunch of his career.

Teams already help off Marcus. He shot only 31.8% when left wide open (no defenders within 6 feet), worst in the team. It’s not like he needs to keep chucking to ensure he’s covered.

[Big333223]

If he’s Rodman, then he needs to recognize that not every shot is a good shot. Rodman shot above 50% for his career because he knew his limitations.

Rodman also played in an era where he could remove himself from the offense and drag a defender out of the play or be left wide open. Smart doesn't have the same luxury with the old illegal defense rules gone. Smart needs to work on his shooting and shot selection but he also can't be a non factor the way Rodman was for a bunch of his career.

Teams already help off Marcus. He shot only 31.8% when left wide open (no defenders within 6 feet), worst in the team. It’s not like he needs to keep chucking to ensure he’s covered.

Today, you can help off someone. In Rodman's time, his defender would either have to stay on Rodman and Rodman could just hang out in the corner, removing his man from the play or Rodman's man would have to go hard double someone else leaving Rodman to do whatever he wants. Defenses are a lot more fluid now meaning Smart has it more difficult than Rodman had it.

[SHAQATTACK]

If Smart was anybody attitude hustle wise he is  baseball star from the 70's Pete Rose.

I know who Rose was even if most of your parents doen't   

[Beat LA]

Sindarius Thornwell.

[KGs Knee]

If he’s Rodman, then he needs to recognize that not every shot is a good shot. Rodman shot above 50% for his career because he knew his limitations.

Rodman also played in an era where he could remove himself from the offense and drag a defender out of the play or be left wide open. Smart doesn't have the same luxury with the old illegal defense rules gone. Smart needs to work on his shooting and shot selection but he also can't be a non factor the way Rodman was for a bunch of his career.

Teams already help off Marcus. He shot only 31.8% when left wide open (no defenders within 6 feet), worst in the team. It’s not like he needs to keep chucking to ensure he’s covered.

Today, you can help off someone. In Rodman's time, his defender would either have to stay on Rodman and Rodman could just hang out in the corner, removing his man from the play or Rodman's man would have to go hard double someone else leaving Rodman to do whatever he wants. Defenses are a lot more fluid now meaning Smart has it more difficult than Rodman had it.

This is precisely why I wish the NBA would bring back the illegal defense rule. Removing that rule tilted the balance of the game and has placed far too much importance on three point shooting.

There are so many other great aspects of the game that should be featured more prominently than the three point shot that end up being completely disregarded. Overall, it's made for an inferior product.

[SHAQATTACK]

Sindarius Thornwell.

WHO ?

[Monkhouse]

I said it before, I'll say it again.

Smart reminds me of Draymond Green, but in a guard size. If you give him the opportunity to be able to distribute the ball more, I can certainly see him racking up 5-7 APG next year.

[Big333223]

If he’s Rodman, then he needs to recognize that not every shot is a good shot. Rodman shot above 50% for his career because he knew his limitations.

Rodman also played in an era where he could remove himself from the offense and drag a defender out of the play or be left wide open. Smart doesn't have the same luxury with the old illegal defense rules gone. Smart needs to work on his shooting and shot selection but he also can't be a non factor the way Rodman was for a bunch of his career.

Teams already help off Marcus. He shot only 31.8% when left wide open (no defenders within 6 feet), worst in the team. It’s not like he needs to keep chucking to ensure he’s covered.

Today, you can help off someone. In Rodman's time, his defender would either have to stay on Rodman and Rodman could just hang out in the corner, removing his man from the play or Rodman's man would have to go hard double someone else leaving Rodman to do whatever he wants. Defenses are a lot more fluid now meaning Smart has it more difficult than Rodman had it.

This is precisely why I wish the NBA would bring back the illegal defense rule. Removing that rule tilted the balance of the game and has placed far too much importance on three point shooting.

There are so many other great aspects of the game that should be featured more prominently than the three point shot that end up being completely disregarded. Overall, it's made for an inferior product.

I feel the exact opposite. Today, success in the NBA is much more predicated on skill than ever before.

Imagine if the opposite happened. The NBA used to be a place where basketball skills like shooting, and defensive versatility were highly valued and then they outlawed zones and suddenly guys with little to no basketball skill who were just tall could be featured prominently on NBA teams.

[Beat LA]

Sindarius Thornwell.

WHO ?

Second round pick of the Clippers from last year. Has Smart's height and weight but can actually shoot and finish inside, and his defense is nothing to laugh at, either, imo. Look him up on The YouTube .

[DefenseWinsChamps]

Sindarius Thornwell.

WHO ?

Second round pick of the Clippers from last year. Has Smart's height and weight but can actually shoot and finish inside, and his defense is nothing to laugh at, either, imo. Look him up on The YouTube .

Thornwell is a good player. He is a legit NBA player.

I'm not sure he can swing a playoff game like Smart has multiple times in his young career.

[KGs Knee]

If he’s Rodman, then he needs to recognize that not every shot is a good shot. Rodman shot above 50% for his career because he knew his limitations.

Rodman also played in an era where he could remove himself from the offense and drag a defender out of the play or be left wide open. Smart doesn't have the same luxury with the old illegal defense rules gone. Smart needs to work on his shooting and shot selection but he also can't be a non factor the way Rodman was for a bunch of his career.

Teams already help off Marcus. He shot only 31.8% when left wide open (no defenders within 6 feet), worst in the team. It’s not like he needs to keep chucking to ensure he’s covered.

Today, you can help off someone. In Rodman's time, his defender would either have to stay on Rodman and Rodman could just hang out in the corner, removing his man from the play or Rodman's man would have to go hard double someone else leaving Rodman to do whatever he wants. Defenses are a lot more fluid now meaning Smart has it more difficult than Rodman had it.

This is precisely why I wish the NBA would bring back the illegal defense rule. Removing that rule tilted the balance of the game and has placed far too much importance on three point shooting.

There are so many other great aspects of the game that should be featured more prominently than the three point shot that end up being completely disregarded. Overall, it's made for an inferior product.

I feel the exact opposite. Today, success in the NBA is much more predicated on skill than ever before.

Imagine if the opposite happened. The NBA used to be a place where basketball skills like shooting, and defensive versatility were highly valued and then they outlawed zones and suddenly guys with little to no basketball skill who were just tall could be featured prominently on NBA teams.

I just don't agree.

The three point shot should not have the influence it does. It's one small aspect of the game yet has become possibly the single most important skill for a role player to have. Players with almost no other ability end up being more valued than a player like Marcus Smart who can do so many good things on the court except shoot threes.


It hurts the overall product, because there is less emphasis on things like defense, post play, rebounding, ect. Rodman would be a nobody in today's NBA.   That is not a good thing.

[Big333223]

If he’s Rodman, then he needs to recognize that not every shot is a good shot. Rodman shot above 50% for his career because he knew his limitations.

Rodman also played in an era where he could remove himself from the offense and drag a defender out of the play or be left wide open. Smart doesn't have the same luxury with the old illegal defense rules gone. Smart needs to work on his shooting and shot selection but he also can't be a non factor the way Rodman was for a bunch of his career.

Teams already help off Marcus. He shot only 31.8% when left wide open (no defenders within 6 feet), worst in the team. It’s not like he needs to keep chucking to ensure he’s covered.

Today, you can help off someone. In Rodman's time, his defender would either have to stay on Rodman and Rodman could just hang out in the corner, removing his man from the play or Rodman's man would have to go hard double someone else leaving Rodman to do whatever he wants. Defenses are a lot more fluid now meaning Smart has it more difficult than Rodman had it.

This is precisely why I wish the NBA would bring back the illegal defense rule. Removing that rule tilted the balance of the game and has placed far too much importance on three point shooting.

There are so many other great aspects of the game that should be featured more prominently than the three point shot that end up being completely disregarded. Overall, it's made for an inferior product.

I feel the exact opposite. Today, success in the NBA is much more predicated on skill than ever before.

Imagine if the opposite happened. The NBA used to be a place where basketball skills like shooting, and defensive versatility were highly valued and then they outlawed zones and suddenly guys with little to no basketball skill who were just tall could be featured prominently on NBA teams.

I just don't agree.

The three point shot should not have the influence it does. It's one small aspect of the game yet has become possibly the single most important skill for a role player to have. Players with almost no other ability end up being more valued than a player like Marcus Smart who can do so many good things on the court except shoot threes.


It hurts the overall product, because there is less emphasis on things like defense, post play, rebounding, ect. Rodman would be a nobody in today's NBA.   That is not a good thing.

I think what you'e saying is a little overstated. Giannis is a top 5 player and can't shoot. Ben Simmons is on his way. Players like Smart and Andre Roberson have big roles on good teams even though they can't shoot. Shooting is more important than ever but the ability to defend, rebound, and create offense in a variety of ways is just as important as it ever was.

As I see it, the only difference is the new rules (which are really just repeals of old, unnecessary rules) push less skilled players to become more skilled or weeds out those less skilled players.

[pokeKingCurtis]

Smart is just clutch. He shoots well when we need him to.

[Beat LA]

Sindarius Thornwell.

WHO ?

Second round pick of the Clippers from last year. Has Smart's height and weight but can actually shoot and finish inside, and his defense is nothing to laugh at, either, imo. Look him up on The YouTube .

Thornwell is a good player. He is a legit NBA player.

I'm not sure he can swing a playoff game like Smart has multiple times in his young career.

Maybe, maybe not. He was clutch in college, though, iirc, and definitely has dat grit, lol, plus he's played well against Cleveland, so yeah. Granted, it's not much in terms of a sample size at the NBA level, but I really like him and Jawun Evans. Just keep in mind that I'm the same moron who thought that those guys were better than Smart and Rozier, LOL. I mean, I guess that you could argue about Smart, but Rozier? Oh lawd .