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I don't think billy king is as bad as people think. No one, even Ainge, thought the nets would implode just a year or so after the trade. The nets thought they were trading late firsts not top tier lottery picks
"The arrogance in the room was that we were going to roll, we were going to win these next couple of years," said a former Nets staff member who was in the draft room. "Maybe not the championship, but we were going to win the next couple of years and have sustainable success. We were going to keep signing free agents. We were always going to draft between 20 and 30. So if we're going to swap with the Celtics, who gives a f--k? That definitely was the thought."Overeager negotiating had been a problem of GM Billy King. Even before the Celtics deal, he relinquished four total first-round picks in trades for Williams, Wallace and Joe Johnson. He had offered up many others in proposals for Carmelo and Dwight Howard, all under ownership's directive that stars were required for the move from New Jersey to Brooklyn.
"It's the same way people think of (Kings owner) Vivek (Ranadive) and (Kings GM) Vlade (Divac), like '[dang], they're running out of assets. We can't strip them anymore.' Everyone knew this was Billy's weakness. ...He created this situation where his only way out was to chase stars and hit a grand slam by swinging for the fences. He thought he got step 1 with Deron (Williams). And he was like, 'I'm so close to getting step 2, I'm going to keep chasing these stars and I have owners that will pay.' It created this disaster."King's worst deal was for Wallace in 2012, a panic move meant to help convince Williams to re-sign in free agency that summer. The pick given in exchange to the Blazers turned into Dame Lillard, a point guard who is immensely better than Williams today.But the deal with Boston was different. It was backed by logic ó albeit flawed in retrospect ó and lauded at the time as pushing the Nets into real contention. King had even gone around the room that evening asking about the proposal. There wasn't much, if any, dissension. According to a report on Netsdaily.com, Milton Lee, the GM of the franchise's D-League affiliate, represented the lone vocal opposition."Looking back, my one regret ó and I know Billy gets a lot of arrows for the swap rights for this year ó was that I shouldn't have done the swap, or that I should've put some type of protection on the swap there looking back on everything," Marks said. "It wasn't just Billy. This was a group decision here. This was the group in the room."
Quote from: CelticsElite on June 20, 2018, 03:52:03 PMI don't think billy king is as bad as people think. No one, even Ainge, thought the nets would implode just a year or so after the trade. The nets thought they were trading late firsts not top tier lottery picksThen why not have any protection on the picks? Anything, even top-1 protection, would have been better than giving us all those unprotected picks
The trade made some semblance of sense as they already had DWill (who was not long before considered the #2 PG behind CP3), a perennial all-star in Joe Johnson, and an all-star center in Lopez.They didnít bring in Pierce and KG to carry a team, they brought them in to put them into contention.And I think had they been healthy, they could have been good. I donít fault the vision, even if Ainge fleeced him knowing he could. I think the biggest mistake was letting Kidd run that group.Williams/Johnson/Pierce/Garnett/Lopez is a great starting five, even with KG running on fumes and Pierce clearly past his prime. The bench had guys like Terry, Livingston, Kirilenko, Teletovic, and Blatche, not exactly the thinnest bench Iíve seen.We all know how it worked out, but at the time, it wasnít a terrible idea for a franchise with a new arena in a new city. They made headlines (cover of SI NBA preview), they went for it. I remember being here when it went down and it being bittersweet for us, knowing PP/KG would get one final crack at a championship while also hopefully kickstarting our rebuild. NOBODY envisioned we would eventually get a #3, #1, and Kyrie Irving out of it.Thank goodness Dwight is such a bonehead and backed out of it otherwise we wouldnít have gotten those picks. The Gerald Wallace deal needed better draft protection in hindsight, but keep in mind Wallace was just previously traded a year before by Charlotte for TWO firsts!