Kadeem Allen drops 46 points for Maine in G-League

[slightly biased bias fan]

https://youtu.be/-Fh_qTa9Urc

Kadeem Allen's 46-point explosion for the Maine Red Claws on Tuesday evening in a loss to the Long Island Nets was an impressive G-League showing. Allen finished the game 16-for-29 from the field, burying 5-of-9 3-point attempts. He wasn't just shooting either, Allen dished out five assists and picked off four steals.

[wiley]

encouraging....considering the draft "buzz" was that he was a defensive specialist picked up to possibly ease the departure of Avery's defense on opposing PG's...(albeit next year if ever).

[mef730]

I've been fooled too many times by D-League performances. Sorry, they really mean nothing to me now after James "D-League MVP" Young.

Mike

[wiley]

I've been fooled too many times by D-League performances. Sorry, they really mean nothing to me now after James "D-League MVP" Young.

Mike

I hear ya.  But I like when specialists show the opposite skill.  Young was supposed to be a sharpshooter, but turned out to be a shooter who couldn't shoot that well in NBA games, though I guess it was IQ that kept him from making it even more than his poor shooting at NBA level.

Kadeem's 46 point night, with many of the threes well beyond the arc, is akin to James Young having a monster defensive night in the G league (what a concept! haha!) 

I'm going out on a limb and saying that Allen's IQ and ball handling (since he's a PG) is better than Young's, and thus if he keeps shooting well there may be some hope.

[Snakehead]

It is the D League so don't be fooled there, however like Wiley just beat me to above in his post (TP) a defensive guy doing this is a great sign.  So much of the game is mental and aggression.

If you are a guy who can really play defense and you add more to your game and get more aggressive, it will start to get interesting.

[kozlodoev]

I've been fooled too many times by D-League performances. Sorry, they really mean nothing to me now after James "D-League MVP" Young.

Mike

I hear ya.  But I like when specialists show the opposite skill.  Young was supposed to be a sharpshooter, but turned out to be a shooter who couldn't shoot that well in NBA games, though I guess it was IQ that kept him from making it even more than his poor shooting at NBA level.

Kadeem's 46 point night, with many of the threes well beyond the arc, is akin to James Young having a monster defensive night in the G league (what a concept! haha!) 

I'm going out on a limb and saying that Allen's IQ and ball handling (since he's a PG) is better than Young's, and thus if he keeps shooting well there may be some hope.

Having a monster defensive night against trash offensive players is the same as having a monster offensive night against trash defensive players -- irrelevant.

It's good that Allen got some reps down there, and hopefully that would help him. But he can't currently budge Abdel Nader for the 15th roster spot, so that's telling you something.

[Snakehead]

But he can't currently budge Abdel Nader for the 15th roster spot, so that's telling you something.

I think the Celtics organization and Stevens has a lot of faith in Nader long term and from his work last year.  Stevens was playing him a lot to bring in offense and shooting for example earlier in the year even as he was doing nothing (don't get me wrong, not defending his play although he has finally scored a few times lol).  Stevens to me is showing a lot of faith in a few guys (Nader in that example, Semi's shot selection, Morris as a starter) to the detriment of the team to an extent I think but that is part of his style as a coach.

[saltlover]

I've been fooled too many times by D-League performances. Sorry, they really mean nothing to me now after James "D-League MVP" Young.

Mike

I hear ya.  But I like when specialists show the opposite skill.  Young was supposed to be a sharpshooter, but turned out to be a shooter who couldn't shoot that well in NBA games, though I guess it was IQ that kept him from making it even more than his poor shooting at NBA level.

Kadeem's 46 point night, with many of the threes well beyond the arc, is akin to James Young having a monster defensive night in the G league (what a concept! haha!) 

I'm going out on a limb and saying that Allen's IQ and ball handling (since he's a PG) is better than Young's, and thus if he keeps shooting well there may be some hope.

Having a monster defensive night against trash offensive players is the same as having a monster offensive night against trash defensive players -- irrelevant.

It's good that Allen got some reps down there, and hopefully that would help him. But he can't currently budge Abdel Nader for the 15th roster spot, so that's telling you something.

Personally it tells me that they would rather keep him on his 2-way deal, which over this summer can be renegotiated to a four-year minimum contract at the NBA, as opposed to converting his deal now to a something that would expire at the end of next season with only early Bird rights.  I guess it tells you something different.

[rollie mass]

What i like is his wingspan and tough guy attitude--
There is tape from Draft Express Fultz vs Allen -Fultz was held to 16 points and he went 0-4 from three not a big deal these days.
Comparison ended with Allen definitely has NBA defensive talent
From memory i think his wingspan is an elite 6-10.That is a huge plus.As insurance of a injury or trade but not a true point guard

[nickagneta]

Most pts in a game in G League history - NBA experience

61 Jordan McRae - 59 games 4.4 PPG
58 Pierre Jackson - 8 games 4.4 PPG
58 Dar Tucker - None
56 Manny Harris - 93 games 6.2 PPG
53 Morris Almond - 38 games 3.1 PPG
53 Wil Conroy - 16 games 0.4 PPG

[CoachBo]

Duck.

Here it comes ...

[Donoghus]

Most pts in a game in G League history - NBA experience

61 Jordan McRae - 59 games 4.4 PPG
58 Pierre Jackson - 8 games 4.4 PPG
58 Dar Tucker - None
56 Manny Harris - 93 games 6.2 PPG
53 Morris Almond - 38 games 3.1 PPG
53 Wil Conroy - 16 games 0.4 PPG

Morris Almond is the only guy I knew on that list that didn't require me to go to the Google machine.

[kraidstar]

I've watched Kadeem play a couple games for the Claws this year and I haven't noticed anything too special about him.

He is pretty athletic and strong, and has good anticipation on defense. But exceptional? I dunno.

From what I've seen it might not be enough.

Rozier a couple years back really stood out during his D-league stints. He was visibly faster, smarter, and more skilled than the other players on the court. He made ridiculous steals and plays on loose balls. is footwork in the lane was remarkable. The sort of stuff nobody else could do.

Mickey could visibly control the paint.

Nader could bring the ball up the court reliably and then run an offense as a SF (to a degree). He was also versatile enough on D to cover most opposing offensive players.

In the G-league, it's not the stats that matter so much as it is the specialized skills. Can you dominate in at least one area, and be at least solid-to-good in others? Is your athleticism or skill level dominant enough that it could lead to major developments in other parts of your game?

Kadeem looks good on D, and his steals totals are excellent at 2.6 per game in ~35min.

I don't know though if it rises to the level where he could have value against NBA teams. His offense is mediocre for a "good" G-league starter. With that in mind, his defense would have to be outrageous to compensate for this flaw, especially at his height (6'3"). And he doesn't have, say the raw strength of a  Marcus Smart out there on D, or the pure quickness of a Rozier, so it's hard seeing him being able to rise much higher in the ranks given his deficiencies.

Oh, and he's also somehow 25 already 

[saltlover]

Most pts in a game in G League history - NBA experience

61 Jordan McRae - 59 games 4.4 PPG
58 Pierre Jackson - 8 games 4.4 PPG
58 Dar Tucker - None
56 Manny Harris - 93 games 6.2 PPG
53 Morris Almond - 38 games 3.1 PPG
53 Wil Conroy - 16 games 0.4 PPG

Morris Almond is the only guy I knew on that list that didn't require me to go to the Google machine.

Funny, that’s one of the two (along with Dar Tucker) that I had never heard of.

I still feel bad for Pierre Jackson.  He was drafted by New Orleans, and apparently promised that if he went to the D-League he’d get a real chance to be on the roster if he performed well.  He was the D-League scoring leader, and clearly the best player for half a season.  New Orleans had an open roster spot and didn’t sign him.  So he bailed and finished the year with Fenerbache.

The Pels traded him to the 76ers, and he looked like he’d get an opportunity to get real minutes in the NBA.  But in the summer league he ruptured his Achilles, missed a season, and really never got back to where he was.  He wouldn’t have turned into a star, ever, but if he’d been given TJ McConnell minutes during the tank, he’d have been able to carve out a career as a bench spark plug guard.

[hwangjini_1]

Most pts in a game in G League history - NBA experience

61 Jordan McRae - 59 games 4.4 PPG
58 Pierre Jackson - 8 games 4.4 PPG
58 Dar Tucker - None
56 Manny Harris - 93 games 6.2 PPG
53 Morris Almond - 38 games 3.1 PPG
53 Wil Conroy - 16 games 0.4 PPG

and HOF material, each and everyone...bless them all.