How was the 2013 shutdown a disaster? Inconvenient, stupid and a waste of tax payer money but hardly a disaster.
I feel for the Dreamers because its not really their fault and yet their lives are being used as a political football by both sides. They only know the United States as their country and home. Many have joined the military and have been putting their lives on the line for the security of this country. What do you say to them? "Thanks for risking your lives on the line for America but we are going to deport you now."I get what your saying. But the dreamer , DACA, immigration has nothing to do with the budget. Plus what's more important right now, ChIP Kids or illegal immigrants. Instead of funding the government, the dems are using this as hostage. Fund the government now, and then fight when the deadline for DACA hits in March. The Military and Fed responders should be paid.
Its inhumane and Washington as a whole should be ashamed for handling DACA in this manner.
Yes, we've played this game from both sides now. It was wrong to shut down the government in 2013 and it was a disaster. I definitely understand the dems frustration and understand the doubt that everyone has that these important issues will be resolved the next time around if we buy a little more time. But, you can't shut down the government. It's bad politics and it's bad for people.
BUT... here's the thing... shame on all of them! I thought Obama was a failed leader when it became clear that he was unable to bring the parties together. Trump, in addition to all his other foibles, appears equally inept at leadership.
The government doesn't actually shutdown. Each agency defines its essential services and the people required to support them. That will probably be a third or more of the federal work force. Those government workers come to work as normal and will definitely get paid albeit potentially late. After the shutdown resolves, Congress will almost certainly authorize pay for the government workers that actually are furloughed. I've been a part of several shutdowns in my 30+ years at NASA and don't recall that ever not happening.
Not a disaster, but it had an impact that most people were not happy with and most people don't want repeated. While people were paid eventually as you said, there was a lot of unnecessary anxiety. Here is an ABC News synopsis, I selected this excerpt from many equivalent options:
"Nearly 800,000 federal employees were out of work without pay. In addition, more than a million other working employees had their paychecks delayed. On day five of the shutdown, Congress voted to give the furloughed government employees retroactive pay. Meanwhile, some members of Congress kept collecting their paychecks, while others voluntarily gave theirs up.
Nonessential departments and employees were furloughed. National parks, the National Zoo and NASA were all closed. The National Park Service lost more than 700,000 daily visitors, who typically add about $76 million to the national economy each day.
Veterans pushed past barricades of the closed WWII memorial. The World War II memorial was technically closed because of the shutdown, but that didn’t stop 92 Mississippi Gulf Coast Honor Flight Veterans from crossing the barricades and touring the site.
V.A. financial benefits were disrupted. Millions of veterans and their families almost did not receive their benefits. The Veterans Affairs secretary at the time, Eric Shinseki, warned that if the shutdown continued through late October, the agency would not be able to send out compensation checks to 5.1 million veterans.
There was an increase in restaurant beverage (mostly liquor) sales. Beverage sales saw a 3 percent increase during the first week of October compared to the first week of September that year.
It cost the country $24 billion. According to estimates by the financial services company Standards & Poor’s, the government shutdown cost America a whopping $24 billion, or $1.5 billion a day."