2 to 3 years in jail for shop lifting is incredibly harsh. That is the point I was making. I think I read somewhere the value stolen woild be a 3 to 10 year sentence under Chinese law. That is just way to harsh. It doesn't excuse the offense bit of rather see an American level penalty
I hope they are punished but not in China where the penalty for this is way disproportionate to the crime
The maximum sentence for stealing goods in China varies, depending on the value of what has been alleged to be stolen. Stealing goods worth between 1,000 and 2,500 yuan ($150 to $380), for example, comes with a maximum sentence of six months but could result in merely a fine.
Anyone convicted of stealing goods for more than that amount, however, would face jail time. Someone convicted of stealing goods worth between 7,000 and 10,000 yuan ($1,050 to $1,510) would face between two and three years in jail under Chinese law.
Louis Vuitton men’s sunglasses cost $435 to $1,990, according to the company’s U.S. website.
and in california...
According to statistics from the California Department of Corrections, thousands of individuals are serving life sentences under California's three strikes law for nonviolent third strikes—in fact, 360 individuals in California are serving life sentences for shoplifting small amounts of merchandise. California is one of twenty-six states nationally with a three strikes law, but California's is the harshest in that the third strike need not be a serious or violent felony-any felony, even shoplifting, can be the basis for a life sentence.
hee hee. you would rather see an american level penalty - such as life in prison mentioned above? i agree prison time for kids shoplifting is severe in any country.
by the way, in the US:
1. In the past 30 years, the United States has come to rely on imprisonment as its response
to all types of crime. Even minor violations of parole or probation often lead
to a return to prison. This has created a prison system of unprecedented size in this
2. The US incarcerates the largest number of people in the world.
3. The incarceration rate in the US is four times the world average.
4. Some individual US states imprison up to six times as many people as do
nations of comparable population.
5. The US imprisons the most women in the world.
6. Crime rates do not account for incarceration rates.https://www.nccdglobal.org/sites/default/files/publication_pdf/factsheet-us-incarceration.pdf
by the way, what penalty has ball received from the chinese state thus far? i read that he, and the others, are stuck in their hotel for a few weeks and can never come back to china without permission.
my basic points for all of the above would be that
1. ball should not have done what he did. incredibly bad judgement and thinking. i hope he can see that now and change. has he apologized so far? and what will his father make of all this?
2. being punished for shoplifting is understandable. jail time is not, in my mind. China has delivered punishment that does not include jail time. good for them on this point.
3. before anyone actually compares prison/crime/legal systems between countries, it is probably wise to do some research prior to posting.