« previous next »
Pages: [1] 2 3   Go Down

Author Topic: Nets pick vs Lakers pick  (Read 4008 times)

0 Members and 0 Guests are viewing this topic.

Nets pick vs Lakers pick
« on: August 24, 2017, 07:47:22 AM »

Offline KGBirdBias

  • Don Chaney
  • *
  • Posts: 1649
  • Tommy Points: 125
Now that Ainge has shown us how he values the picks, I think he's right about putting his bet on the Lakers pick being a better pick. Let's look at the East vs West.

The East is weak which may give the Nets a chance to win more games.

The West is a beast and the Lakers don't have the talent to win in the West.

East Non-playoff teams - Nets, Bulls, Pacers, Hawks, Knicks, Magic, Pistons

West Non-playoff teams - Lakers, Grizzlies, Mavericks, Suns, Kings, Jazz, Clippers

Ainge probably believes the Lakers are going to be the worst of the non-playoff teams.

I believe the Lakers will fall in that 2-5 spot. I believe the Pacers will have the worst record in the NBA.
Logged
Re: Nets pick vs Lakers pick
« Reply #1 on: August 24, 2017, 08:14:57 AM »

Offline tazzmaniac

  • Satch Sanders
  • *********
  • Posts: 9047
  • Tommy Points: 584
The Nets and Lakers are both going to be bottom feeders.  Not being able to get the #1 pick makes the Lakers pick a bit worse from a value standpoint.  It also has a pretty good chance of rolling over to 2019 which is probably going to be a weaker draft with Bagley reclassifying for 2018.   
Logged
Re: Nets pick vs Lakers pick
« Reply #2 on: August 24, 2017, 08:19:23 AM »

Offline Tr1boy

  • Paul Pierce
  • ***************************
  • Posts: 27260
  • Tommy Points: 867
Nets will be , better than many expect

Logged
Re: Nets pick vs Lakers pick
« Reply #3 on: August 24, 2017, 08:35:17 AM »

Offline ETNCeltics

  • NCE
  • Jim Loscutoff
  • **
  • Posts: 2748
  • Tommy Points: 311
You're putting a silk hat on a pig. Nothing can fix this misstep by Ainge, and no, the Lakers pick won't be better unless they have a ton of injuries. NJN are awful, and that pick is going to be top 5.  Kyrie isn't among the league's top 10 or so players, yet Ainge paid for him like he was. Ainge gave up potentially the most valuable asset he has in order to build a team that isn't good enough to beat GSW.

The only chance we had of becoming a team that could challenge GSW was trading for AD, or drafting players like Porter and Bagley, and hoping that Tatum and Brown become stars. We just gave away a big piece of that potential for a guy who's already shown he's not good enough to get in the deep end of the pool with Durant and Curry.

Who knows, Kyrie may become a better player. It's unlikely, but not unheard of. Maybe the LAL have a lot of bad breaks and we get the #2 or 3 pick. But the way I look at things, Ainge got destroyed on this trade, massively overpaid, and did it just to be more "relevant", not to win titles.
Logged
Re: Nets pick vs Lakers pick
« Reply #4 on: August 24, 2017, 08:36:00 AM »

Offline KGBirdBias

  • Don Chaney
  • *
  • Posts: 1649
  • Tommy Points: 125
So let me ask a question. Is the Lakers pick protected between #2-5 or just protected for #1?
Logged
Re: Nets pick vs Lakers pick
« Reply #5 on: August 24, 2017, 08:39:40 AM »

Offline jbpats

  • Don Chaney
  • *
  • Posts: 1546
  • Tommy Points: 406
If reports are true, and that Cleveland would have accepted the Lakers OR Nets pick, I do find it strange that Ainge values the Lakers pick more.
For one, the Lakers pick is heavily protected, if it doesnt fall within 2-5 we don't get it. I do think the Lakers will stink but we really don't know what adding Lopez or Ball can do towards their dynamic. It's a pretty big gamble that the pick falls in that small window of hope. Secondly I do think the Kings are heading in the right direction so if the pick moves to 2019 I can see it being in the 8-14 range. That being said I think this was the pick to trade if we did have the option.
I do think the Nets will be better and believe in the East alone that Chicago, Indy, and Atlanta will be worse.. but with that being said it's a non protected pick and i'd rather have the guarantee.

I honestly think the pick to trade was the 2019 Memphis pick, they're on their way down and feel they'll be one of the worst teams in 2019. I'd expect that pick to fall in the 6-12 range.
Logged
Re: Nets pick vs Lakers pick
« Reply #6 on: August 24, 2017, 08:53:17 AM »

Offline ETNCeltics

  • NCE
  • Jim Loscutoff
  • **
  • Posts: 2748
  • Tommy Points: 311
Quote from: KGBirdBias on August 24, 2017, 08:36:00 AM
So let me ask a question. Is the Lakers pick protected between #2-5 or just protected for #1?
We only get it if it's 2 through 5.

It's protected for Philly at #1, then protected on the other side for us if it falls below 5.
Logged
Re: Nets pick vs Lakers pick
« Reply #7 on: August 24, 2017, 08:59:03 AM »

Offline KGBirdBias

  • Don Chaney
  • *
  • Posts: 1649
  • Tommy Points: 125
Guys, the Cavs weren't accepting any other picks besides those two picks. They needed assurance for giving up an All Star PG.  This was a no-brainer trade. Ainge was never paying IT max money, so go and get a PG already under contract. If you haven't noticed, Ainge only makes trades for guys that are under contract and not pending FA. It's called "cost control".

Now if he had not got that Lakers pick, then giving up the Nets pick would've been bad, but he had great value with potentially 2 top 5 picks. He didn't give up one for a marginal player, he got the guy who destroyed us in the playoffs and is clutch in the Finals.

Great trade!
Logged
Re: Nets pick vs Lakers pick
« Reply #8 on: August 24, 2017, 09:12:15 AM »

Offline jbpats

  • Don Chaney
  • *
  • Posts: 1546
  • Tommy Points: 406
I hope the Celtics do themselves a service and 'rest' players for all Nets games.
Logged
Re: Nets pick vs Lakers pick
« Reply #9 on: August 24, 2017, 09:45:40 AM »

Offline ETNCeltics

  • NCE
  • Jim Loscutoff
  • **
  • Posts: 2748
  • Tommy Points: 311
I don't believe for a second that Ainge thinks the LAL pick has more value than the BRK pick, and chose to trade the BRK pick.
Logged
Re: Nets pick vs Lakers pick
« Reply #10 on: August 24, 2017, 09:47:37 AM »

Offline KGBirdBias

  • Don Chaney
  • *
  • Posts: 1649
  • Tommy Points: 125
Quote from: ETNCeltics on August 24, 2017, 09:45:40 AM
I don't believe for a second that Ainge thinks the LAL pick has more value than the BRK pick, and chose to trade the BRK pick.

Please explain? Wouldn't the trade tell you that he does? Is he just out here giving premium picks away without any thought of what's better for the Celtics?
Logged
Re: Nets pick vs Lakers pick
« Reply #11 on: August 24, 2017, 09:49:14 AM »

Offline MaxAMillion

  • Al Horford
  • Posts: 458
  • Tommy Points: 16
Quote from: ETNCeltics on August 24, 2017, 08:35:17 AM
You're putting a silk hat on a pig. Nothing can fix this misstep by Ainge, and no, the Lakers pick won't be better unless they have a ton of injuries. NJN are awful, and that pick is going to be top 5.  Kyrie isn't among the league's top 10 or so players, yet Ainge paid for him like he was. Ainge gave up potentially the most valuable asset he has in order to build a team that isn't good enough to beat GSW.

The only chance we had of becoming a team that could challenge GSW was trading for AD, or drafting players like Porter and Bagley, and hoping that Tatum and Brown become stars. We just gave away a big piece of that potential for a guy who's already shown he's not good enough to get in the deep end of the pool with Durant and Curry.

Who knows, Kyrie may become a better player. It's unlikely, but not unheard of. Maybe the LAL have a lot of bad breaks and we get the #2 or 3 pick. But the way I look at things, Ainge got destroyed on this trade, massively overpaid, and did it just to be more "relevant", not to win titles.

Amen
Logged
Re: Nets pick vs Lakers pick
« Reply #12 on: August 24, 2017, 10:50:45 AM »

Offline KGBirdBias

  • Don Chaney
  • *
  • Posts: 1649
  • Tommy Points: 125
Stop with this nonsense. I think everyone's heart is hurting for IT because he gave everything to the Celtics.

When cooler heads and hearts prevail. We got the #1 overall pick, NBA champion from a player who watched Bron for 3 years....and he's ONLY 25 years old.

STOP with the nonsense. When IT signs that deal people will be saying, "man, I'm glad Ainge didn't sign him".
Logged
Re: Nets pick vs Lakers pick
« Reply #13 on: August 24, 2017, 10:52:54 AM »

Offline jaketwice

  • Bill Walton
  • *
  • Posts: 1384
  • Tommy Points: 102
Quote from: jbpats on August 24, 2017, 08:39:40 AM
If reports are true, and that Cleveland would have accepted the Lakers OR Nets pick, I do find it strange that Ainge values the Lakers pick more.
For one, the Lakers pick is heavily protected, if it doesnt fall within 2-5 we don't get it. I do think the Lakers will stink but we really don't know what adding Lopez or Ball can do towards their dynamic. It's a pretty big gamble that the pick falls in that small window of hope. Secondly I do think the Kings are heading in the right direction so if the pick moves to 2019 I can see it being in the 8-14 range. That being said I think this was the pick to trade if we did have the option.
I do think the Nets will be better and believe in the East alone that Chicago, Indy, and Atlanta will be worse.. but with that being said it's a non protected pick and i'd rather have the guarantee.

I honestly think the pick to trade was the 2019 Memphis pick, they're on their way down and feel they'll be one of the worst teams in 2019. I'd expect that pick to fall in the 6-12 range.

HAHAHA Beat LA!

Ainge is still such a competitive mofo.
Logged
Re: Nets pick vs Lakers pick
« Reply #14 on: August 24, 2017, 11:07:59 AM »

Offline perks-a-beast

  • Jim Loscutoff
  • **
  • Posts: 2620
  • Tommy Points: 271
Dealing away the Nets pick was a colossal mistake. That pick will be top five guaranteed. Unless you think Timofey Mozgov is a generational talent who is going to be the saving grace of the Nets organization, saying the pick might end up in the 7-10 range is just you trying desperately to justify a dumpster fire of a trade by Danny Ainge.

Our best hope now is to hope the Kings are bad in 2019, because the Lakers won't be a bottom five team unless they're struck with a huge injury plague. Lonzo Ball is more transcendent of a player Han many people think, Brook Lopez is hungry for a large contract and will have a solid year to prove he's worth it, Julius Randle is slowly becoming a double double machine, I see Brandon Ingram making big strides, and they just got KCP who is on a one year deal and also eager to prove himself. Their bench of Clarkson, Deng, Nance, Ennis, and Zubac ain't too shabby either. That team wins at least 35 games this year so unless the ping pong balls fall in our favor, that pick ain't coming our way
Logged
Pages: [1] 2 3   Go Up
« previous next »