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Re: Chris Mannix on Cowherd: Fultz is by far the best player in the draf
« Reply #30 on: June 15, 2017, 02:25:46 AM »

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his knee being an issue is only repeated multiple times here on CB.

If it was a problem you would have heard it a lot of times discussed by people far more competent than Beat LA.

Ahh yes, because if only one person raises a concern s/he is either stupid and/or the issue simply doesn't exist ::).  Your logic is simply breathtaking ::).  Please, tell me more! ::)

I haven't heard anything about his knee since the end of the college season when he gave it rest. I would suspect that Celtics staff were able to examine him or look at his medical records. There has been very few reports about this. Unlike Embiid before he was drafted.

That doesn't mean that it's not still a significant concern, imo.  I think I saw something from Chad Ford around the time of the draft combine that said that NBA teams knew nothing about his knee, which I'm assuming was done on purpose by his agent as has happened countless times before with more significantly injured prospects.  Just throwing it out there.  Christ.

A year ago, you declared that Demetrius Jackson and Marquese Chriss were already better players than Isaiah Thomas and Jae Crowder.

What should anyone make of that?  I'm not trying to pick on you, but I don't understand how that can be justified with rational thought.

Sigh.  As usual, if you're going to criticize me, can you at least be bothered to get get the players, let alone the facts, right?

First, I've revisited the thread wherein I said that I thought that Demetrius Jackson was "the best point guard on our team," which is not even close to saying that he was better than Isaiah as an overall player, but don't let the facts get in the way of a good time ::).

I've also seen people say that I said that Jackson was better than all of our guards combined.  Again, this is completely false, has no basis in reality, and represents a complete misunderstanding of what I had posted.  What I actually said, and yes, I was wrong, was that I believed Jackson to be the best point guard on our roster because he was a combination of the best attributes of all of our guards, which, again, is not even close to saying that he's better than all of our guards combined, but whatever.

Secondly, while your Thomas/Jackson at least has the correct players, your assertion that I said that Marquese Chriss was already better than Jae Crowder is hilarious to me, not only because I never mentioned Chriss at all, let alone in a comparison with Crowder, but because the poster who has that exact quote wherein I said that Taurean Prince, and not Marquese Chriss, was already better than Jae Crowder in his signature consistently contributes to this site, so you've gone to all of this trouble and yet somehow failed to use the correct comparison that has likely been observed many times over the course of this past season.  Go look it up for yourself.  The poster's name is alldaboston.  I'll wait.

What should anyone make of that?  I'm not trying to pick on you, but I don't understand how that can be justified with rational thought. ;)

Re: Chris Mannix on Cowherd: Fultz is by far the best player in the draft
« Reply #31 on: June 15, 2017, 02:27:18 AM »

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his knee being an issue is only repeated multiple times here on CB.

If it was a problem you would have heard it a lot of times discussed by people far more competent than Beat LA.

Ahh yes, because if only one person raises a concern s/he is either stupid and/or the issue simply doesn't exist ::).  Your logic is simply breathtaking ::).  Please, tell me more! ::)

I haven't heard anything about his knee since the end of the college season when he gave it rest. I would suspect that Celtics staff were able to examine him or look at his medical records. There has been very few reports about this. Unlike Embiid before he was drafted.

That doesn't mean that it's not still a significant concern, imo.  I think I saw something from Chad Ford around the time of the draft combine that said that NBA teams knew nothing about his knee, which I'm assuming was done on purpose by his agent as has happened countless times before with more significantly injured prospects.  Just throwing it out there.  Christ.

Do you think the Celtics would take him with the number 1 pick without looking at his medical records thoroughly, especially re his knee? C'mon.

Congratulations, that's not what I said at all ::).

Re: Chris Mannix on Cowherd: Fultz is by far the best player in the draft
« Reply #32 on: June 15, 2017, 03:09:13 AM »

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his knee being an issue is only repeated multiple times here on CB.

If it was a problem you would have heard it a lot of times discussed by people far more competent than Beat LA.

Ahh yes, because if only one person raises a concern s/he is either stupid and/or the issue simply doesn't exist ::).  Your logic is simply breathtaking ::).  Please, tell me more! ::)

I haven't heard anything about his knee since the end of the college season when he gave it rest. I would suspect that Celtics staff were able to examine him or look at his medical records. There has been very few reports about this. Unlike Embiid before he was drafted.

That doesn't mean that it's not still a significant concern, imo.  I think I saw something from Chad Ford around the time of the draft combine that said that NBA teams knew nothing about his knee, which I'm assuming was done on purpose by his agent as has happened countless times before with more significantly injured prospects.  Just throwing it out there.  Christ.

Do you think the Celtics would take him with the number 1 pick without looking at his medical records thoroughly, especially re his knee? C'mon.

Congratulations, that's not what I said at all ::).

"even with whatever is wrong with his knee?"

-implies there is something wrong with his knee

It will only be a factor if the medical staff do not look at it at all.

Re: Chris Mannix on Cowherd: Fultz is by far the best player in the draft
« Reply #33 on: June 15, 2017, 06:17:14 AM »

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his knee being an issue is only repeated multiple times here on CB.

If it was a problem you would have heard it a lot of times discussed by people far more competent than Beat LA.

Ahh yes, because if only one person raises a concern s/he is either stupid and/or the issue simply doesn't exist ::).  Your logic is simply breathtaking ::).  Please, tell me more! ::)

I haven't heard anything about his knee since the end of the college season when he gave it rest. I would suspect that Celtics staff were able to examine him or look at his medical records. There has been very few reports about this. Unlike Embiid before he was drafted.

That doesn't mean that it's not still a significant concern, imo.  I think I saw something from Chad Ford around the time of the draft combine that said that NBA teams knew nothing about his knee, which I'm assuming was done on purpose by his agent as has happened countless times before with more significantly injured prospects.  Just throwing it out there.  Christ.

Do you think the Celtics would take him with the number 1 pick without looking at his medical records thoroughly, especially re his knee? C'mon.

Congratulations, that's not what I said at all ::).

"even with whatever is wrong with his knee?"

-implies there is something wrong with his knee


It will only be a factor if the medical staff do not look at it at all.

Good call ::). Teach me your ways, oh wise one ::).

Re: Chris Mannix on Cowherd: Fultz is by far the best player in the draft
« Reply #34 on: June 15, 2017, 07:31:48 AM »

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his knee being an issue is only repeated multiple times here on CB.

If it was a problem you would have heard it a lot of times discussed by people far more competent than Beat LA.

Ahh yes, because if only one person raises a concern s/he is either stupid and/or the issue simply doesn't exist ::).  Your logic is simply breathtaking ::).  Please, tell me more! ::)

I haven't heard anything about his knee since the end of the college season when he gave it rest. I would suspect that Celtics staff were able to examine him or look at his medical records. There has been very few reports about this. Unlike Embiid before he was drafted.

That doesn't mean that it's not still a significant concern, imo.  I think I saw something from Chad Ford around the time of the draft combine that said that NBA teams knew nothing about his knee, which I'm assuming was done on purpose by his agent as has happened countless times before with more significantly injured prospects.  Just throwing it out there.  Christ.


Conjecture at best. Particularly because he didn't have an agent until day before yesterday.  Just saying.

Re: Chris Mannix on Cowherd: Fultz is by far the best player in the draf
« Reply #35 on: June 15, 2017, 11:45:07 PM »

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his knee being an issue is only repeated multiple times here on CB.

If it was a problem you would have heard it a lot of times discussed by people far more competent than Beat LA.

Ahh yes, because if only one person raises a concern s/he is either stupid and/or the issue simply doesn't exist ::).  Your logic is simply breathtaking ::).  Please, tell me more! ::)

I haven't heard anything about his knee since the end of the college season when he gave it rest. I would suspect that Celtics staff were able to examine him or look at his medical records. There has been very few reports about this. Unlike Embiid before he was drafted.

That doesn't mean that it's not still a significant concern, imo.  I think I saw something from Chad Ford around the time of the draft combine that said that NBA teams knew nothing about his knee, which I'm assuming was done on purpose by his agent as has happened countless times before with more significantly injured prospects.  Just throwing it out there.  Christ.

A year ago, you declared that Demetrius Jackson and Marquese Chriss were already better players than Isaiah Thomas and Jae Crowder.

What should anyone make of that?  I'm not trying to pick on you, but I don't understand how that can be justified with rational thought.

Sigh.  As usual, if you're going to criticize me, can you at least be bothered to get get the players, let alone the facts, right?

First, I've revisited the thread wherein I said that I thought that Demetrius Jackson was "the best point guard on our team," which is not even close to saying that he was better than Isaiah as an overall player, but don't let the facts get in the way of a good time ::).

I've also seen people say that I said that Jackson was better than all of our guards combined.  Again, this is completely false, has no basis in reality, and represents a complete misunderstanding of what I had posted.  What I actually said, and yes, I was wrong, was that I believed Jackson to be the best point guard on our roster because he was a combination of the best attributes of all of our guards, which, again, is not even close to saying that he's better than all of our guards combined, but whatever.

Secondly, while your Thomas/Jackson at least has the correct players, your assertion that I said that Marquese Chriss was already better than Jae Crowder is hilarious to me, not only because I never mentioned Chriss at all, let alone in a comparison with Crowder, but because the poster who has that exact quote wherein I said that Taurean Prince, and not Marquese Chriss, was already better than Jae Crowder in his signature consistently contributes to this site, so you've gone to all of this trouble and yet somehow failed to use the correct comparison that has likely been observed many times over the course of this past season.  Go look it up for yourself.  The poster's name is alldaboston.  I'll wait.

What should anyone make of that?  I'm not trying to pick on you, but I don't understand how that can be justified with rational thought. ;)

Fine, you said that Demetrius Jackson is a better point guard than Isaiah Thomas, not a better player overall.  Still, it's a very odd and wrong opinion.  Your assessments of players is the worst I have ever come across.  You constantly criticize this team which rebuilt and reached a conference final in extremely impressive time.  I admit that it irritates me.

Re: Chris Mannix on Cowherd: Fultz is by far the best player in the draft
« Reply #36 on: June 16, 2017, 12:45:59 AM »

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his knee being an issue is only repeated multiple times here on CB.

If it was a problem you would have heard it a lot of times discussed by people far more competent than Beat LA.

Ahh yes, because if only one person raises a concern s/he is either stupid and/or the issue simply doesn't exist ::).  Your logic is simply breathtaking ::).  Please, tell me more! ::)

I haven't heard anything about his knee since the end of the college season when he gave it rest. I would suspect that Celtics staff were able to examine him or look at his medical records. There has been very few reports about this. Unlike Embiid before he was drafted.

That doesn't mean that it's not still a significant concern, imo.  I think I saw something from Chad Ford around the time of the draft combine that said that NBA teams knew nothing about his knee, which I'm assuming was done on purpose by his agent as has happened countless times before with more significantly injured prospects.  Just throwing it out there.  Christ.


Conjecture at best. Particularly because he didn't have an agent until day before yesterday.  Just saying.

Which is why I said that I was just throwing it out there, lol ;D.

Re: Chris Mannix on Cowherd: Fultz is by far the best player in the draft
« Reply #37 on: June 16, 2017, 12:47:50 AM »

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his knee being an issue is only repeated multiple times here on CB.

If it was a problem you would have heard it a lot of times discussed by people far more competent than Beat LA.

Ahh yes, because if only one person raises a concern s/he is either stupid and/or the issue simply doesn't exist ::).  Your logic is simply breathtaking ::).  Please, tell me more! ::)

I haven't heard anything about his knee since the end of the college season when he gave it rest. I would suspect that Celtics staff were able to examine him or look at his medical records. There has been very few reports about this. Unlike Embiid before he was drafted.

That doesn't mean that it's not still a significant concern, imo.  I think I saw something from Chad Ford around the time of the draft combine that said that NBA teams knew nothing about his knee, which I'm assuming was done on purpose by his agent as has happened countless times before with more significantly injured prospects.  Just throwing it out there.  Christ.

Do you think the Celtics would take him with the number 1 pick without looking at his medical records thoroughly, especially re his knee? C'mon.

Congratulations, that's not what I said at all ::).

"even with whatever is wrong with his knee?"

-implies there is something wrong with his knee


It will only be a factor if the medical staff do not look at it at all.

Good call ::). Teach me your ways, oh wise one ::).

You are beyond teaching. In fact, you have no credibility left after everything you have said in the past.  :laugh:

Re: Chris Mannix on Cowherd: Fultz is by far the best player in the draf
« Reply #38 on: June 16, 2017, 12:54:03 AM »

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his knee being an issue is only repeated multiple times here on CB.

If it was a problem you would have heard it a lot of times discussed by people far more competent than Beat LA.

Ahh yes, because if only one person raises a concern s/he is either stupid and/or the issue simply doesn't exist ::).  Your logic is simply breathtaking ::).  Please, tell me more! ::)

I haven't heard anything about his knee since the end of the college season when he gave it rest. I would suspect that Celtics staff were able to examine him or look at his medical records. There has been very few reports about this. Unlike Embiid before he was drafted.

That doesn't mean that it's not still a significant concern, imo.  I think I saw something from Chad Ford around the time of the draft combine that said that NBA teams knew nothing about his knee, which I'm assuming was done on purpose by his agent as has happened countless times before with more significantly injured prospects.  Just throwing it out there.  Christ.

A year ago, you declared that Demetrius Jackson and Marquese Chriss were already better players than Isaiah Thomas and Jae Crowder.

What should anyone make of that?  I'm not trying to pick on you, but I don't understand how that can be justified with rational thought.

Sigh.  As usual, if you're going to criticize me, can you at least be bothered to get get the players, let alone the facts, right?

First, I've revisited the thread wherein I said that I thought that Demetrius Jackson was "the best point guard on our team," which is not even close to saying that he was better than Isaiah as an overall player, but don't let the facts get in the way of a good time ::).

I've also seen people say that I said that Jackson was better than all of our guards combined.  Again, this is completely false, has no basis in reality, and represents a complete misunderstanding of what I had posted.  What I actually said, and yes, I was wrong, was that I believed Jackson to be the best point guard on our roster because he was a combination of the best attributes of all of our guards, which, again, is not even close to saying that he's better than all of our guards combined, but whatever.

Secondly, while your Thomas/Jackson at least has the correct players, your assertion that I said that Marquese Chriss was already better than Jae Crowder is hilarious to me, not only because I never mentioned Chriss at all, let alone in a comparison with Crowder, but because the poster who has that exact quote wherein I said that Taurean Prince, and not Marquese Chriss, was already better than Jae Crowder in his signature consistently contributes to this site, so you've gone to all of this trouble and yet somehow failed to use the correct comparison that has likely been observed many times over the course of this past season.  Go look it up for yourself.  The poster's name is alldaboston.  I'll wait.

What should anyone make of that?  I'm not trying to pick on you, but I don't understand how that can be justified with rational thought. ;)

Fine, you said that Demetrius Jackson is a better point guard than Isaiah Thomas, not a better player overall.  Still, it's a very odd and wrong opinion.  Your assessments of players is the worst I have ever come across.  You constantly criticize this team which rebuilt and reached a conference final in extremely impressive time.  I admit that it irritates me.

If by "odd" you mean different, then fine, we agree, and as for my assessments of players being the worst you have ever come across, lol awesome.  I really don't care, although I would be interested to see some examples of this, as I'm sure that there are plenty of them, haha.

However, I'm not going to apologize for looking at something differently, which I suppose is what's happened here in terms of draftees, but I have never done, and will never do, so to be some kind of contrarian, and I'm incredibly sorry if that's the impression I've give you, for, again, that was never my intent, and I'm not being sarcastic, either, btw.  Are my "views" really that much different from everyone else's?  I guess that I just find that hard to believe.

Re: Chris Mannix on Cowherd: Fultz is by far the best player in the draft
« Reply #39 on: June 16, 2017, 12:58:14 AM »

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his knee being an issue is only repeated multiple times here on CB.

If it was a problem you would have heard it a lot of times discussed by people far more competent than Beat LA.

Ahh yes, because if only one person raises a concern s/he is either stupid and/or the issue simply doesn't exist ::).  Your logic is simply breathtaking ::).  Please, tell me more! ::)

I haven't heard anything about his knee since the end of the college season when he gave it rest. I would suspect that Celtics staff were able to examine him or look at his medical records. There has been very few reports about this. Unlike Embiid before he was drafted.

That doesn't mean that it's not still a significant concern, imo.  I think I saw something from Chad Ford around the time of the draft combine that said that NBA teams knew nothing about his knee, which I'm assuming was done on purpose by his agent as has happened countless times before with more significantly injured prospects.  Just throwing it out there.  Christ.

Do you think the Celtics would take him with the number 1 pick without looking at his medical records thoroughly, especially re his knee? C'mon.

Congratulations, that's not what I said at all ::).

"even with whatever is wrong with his knee?"

-implies there is something wrong with his knee


It will only be a factor if the medical staff do not look at it at all.

Good call ::). Teach me your ways, oh wise one ::).

You are beyond teaching. In fact, you have no credibility left after everything you have said in the past.  :laugh:

From you?  Thank god.