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Fultz for Wiggins
« on: May 23, 2017, 05:08:39 PM »

Offline jaketwice

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Would you do it? Wiggins plays a position of need; and the Hyphen is the star of the future for Minnesota. Besides, they have Zach LaVine. Maybe Minnesota could also give us a drat pick. Rubio isn't their PG of the future.
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Re: Fultz for Wiggins
« Reply #1 on: May 23, 2017, 05:13:09 PM »

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Quote from: jaketwice on May 23, 2017, 05:08:39 PM
Would you do it? Wiggins plays a position of need; and the Hyphen is the star of the future for Minnesota. Besides, they have Zach LaVine. Maybe Minnesota could also give us a drat pick. Rubio isn't their PG of the future.

Not even close... Wiggins has been a major disappointment in the NBA. Minnesota would have to throw in their lottery pick this year to even start that conversation.
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Re: Fultz for Wiggins
« Reply #2 on: May 23, 2017, 05:15:31 PM »

Offline Rondo9

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How has Wiggins disappointed?
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Re: Fultz for Wiggins
« Reply #3 on: May 23, 2017, 05:25:57 PM »

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Wiggins doesn't cover a position of need. We have Crowder, JB and possibly Hayward. Neither has he disappointed, by the way.

I don't make this trade.
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Re: Fultz for Wiggins
« Reply #4 on: May 23, 2017, 05:26:02 PM »

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I wouldn't do it. Wiggins has a chance to be a prolific scorer in this league, and if I'm correct he is quite decent on the defensive end as well. As far as other aspects of the game are concerned, he isnt much of a play maker or a rebounder.

Fultz has a chance to be dominant at all aspects of the game, similar to what Chris Paul is.
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Re: Fultz for Wiggins
« Reply #5 on: May 23, 2017, 05:29:50 PM »

Offline celticsclay

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Quote from: Rondo9 on May 23, 2017, 05:15:31 PM
How has Wiggins disappointed?

He projected as being close to an NBA ready defender as a rookie because of his body size and athletic skills. Not only was he a horrible defender, he has shown next to no improvement in that area in his first couple of seasons. He also hasn't really improved other aspects of his game either. There is still time for him to get better, but he was projected as a sure fire all-star and I am not sure he will ever make it.
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Re: Fultz for Wiggins
« Reply #6 on: May 23, 2017, 05:30:33 PM »

Offline tazzmaniac

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Quote from: Rondo9 on May 23, 2017, 05:15:31 PM
How has Wiggins disappointed?
I wouldn't call him a major disappointment but it is disappointing that he is a lousy defender even with Thibs coaching.  Wiggins only has 1 year left on his rookie contract.  I wouldn't trade Fultz for him. 
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Re: Fultz for Wiggins
« Reply #7 on: May 23, 2017, 05:33:17 PM »

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Quote from: celticsclay on May 23, 2017, 05:13:09 PM
Quote from: jaketwice on May 23, 2017, 05:08:39 PM
Would you do it? Wiggins plays a position of need; and the Hyphen is the star of the future for Minnesota. Besides, they have Zach LaVine. Maybe Minnesota could also give us a drat pick. Rubio isn't their PG of the future.

Not even close... Wiggins has been a major disappointment in the NBA. Minnesota would have to throw in their lottery pick this year to even start that conversation.
Not at all. He has already shown he can be an elite scorer at 22 years old, the hardest skill to find in the NBA. He has been weak in other areas though so far like rebounding, playmaking, and defense, but he has improved steadily each year. I watched a lot of wolves games this year, and down the stretch in close games, he is the team’s primary ball handler. He was able to create with terrible spacing around him too. Not saying I would trade Fultz for him, but Wiggins would be a beast with guys like AB, Horford, and IT around him.
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Re: Fultz for Wiggins
« Reply #8 on: May 23, 2017, 05:37:39 PM »

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Quote from: celticsclay on May 23, 2017, 05:29:50 PM
Quote from: Rondo9 on May 23, 2017, 05:15:31 PM
How has Wiggins disappointed?

He projected as being close to an NBA ready defender as a rookie because of his body size and athletic skills. Not only was he a horrible defender, he has shown next to no improvement in that area in his first couple of seasons. He also hasn't really improved other aspects of his game either. There is still time for him to get better, but he was projected as a sure fire all-star and I am not sure he will ever make it.
He is still a bad off ball and team defender, but he has certainly improved his on ball and 1 on 1 defense. He guards the other teams best wing player, and does a pretty good job of it. And to say he hasn’t improved other aspects of his game, you just clearly haven’t watched Wiggins. His shot creation and ball handling is much better than it was in the beginning of his career, as well as his post game.
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Re: Fultz for Wiggins
« Reply #9 on: May 23, 2017, 05:41:50 PM »

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Ugh.  No way.  I wouldn't trade Smart for Wiggins.

I wouldn't trade Fultz for Wiggins AND Lavine.
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Re: Fultz for Wiggins
« Reply #10 on: May 23, 2017, 06:04:32 PM »

Offline celticsclay

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Quote from: Bucketgetter on May 23, 2017, 05:33:17 PM
Quote from: celticsclay on May 23, 2017, 05:13:09 PM
Quote from: jaketwice on May 23, 2017, 05:08:39 PM
Would you do it? Wiggins plays a position of need; and the Hyphen is the star of the future for Minnesota. Besides, they have Zach LaVine. Maybe Minnesota could also give us a drat pick. Rubio isn't their PG of the future.

Not even close... Wiggins has been a major disappointment in the NBA. Minnesota would have to throw in their lottery pick this year to even start that conversation.
Not at all. He has already shown he can be an elite scorer at 22 years old, the hardest skill to find in the NBA. He has been weak in other areas though so far like rebounding, playmaking, and defense, but he has improved steadily each year. I watched a lot of wolves games this year, and down the stretch in close games, he is the team’s primary ball handler. He was able to create with terrible spacing around him too. Not saying I would trade Fultz for him, but Wiggins would be a beast with guys like AB, Horford, and IT around him.

I more meant his passing and rebounding and defense rather than improving his scoring ability which he was already great at. I mean the guy just finished his 3rd season and hasn't sniffed the all star game. He also hasn't even been in contention for a playoff spot in his first 3 seasons despite playing with a fellow top level prospect in Towns. His career and development have certainly been disappointing from being a superstar when drafted. Didn't really think that was debatable.
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Re: Fultz for Wiggins
« Reply #11 on: May 27, 2017, 11:54:04 AM »

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I'd trade C's 2018 1st, Crowder and AB for Wiggins, and Hill. Thibs gets much needed toughness.

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Fultz, Smart, Brown, Yab, Zizc.
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Jones, Dunn, LaVine, Cole, Pek
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Re: Fultz for Wiggins
« Reply #12 on: May 27, 2017, 11:57:44 AM »

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Quote from: Denis998 on May 23, 2017, 05:26:02 PM
I wouldn't do it. Wiggins has a chance to be a prolific scorer in this league, and if I'm correct he is quite decent on the defensive end as well.As far as other aspects of the game are concerned, he isnt much of a play maker or a rebounder.

Fultz has a chance to be dominant at all aspects of the game, similar to what Chris Paul is.
You are incorrect
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Re: Fultz for Wiggins
« Reply #13 on: May 27, 2017, 12:14:21 PM »

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No thanks. Fultz will probably eclipse Wiggins in almost every aspect.

Wiggins is a good scorer, but is frankly average to poor at most else. He could develop into a decent defender one day, and honestly should with his athleticism and length. But at this stage of his career, it's definitely a no.
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Re: Fultz for Wiggins
« Reply #14 on: May 27, 2017, 12:24:17 PM »

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Quote from: PickNRoll on May 23, 2017, 05:41:50 PM
Ugh.  No way.  I wouldn't trade Smart for Wiggins.

I wouldn't trade Fultz for Wiggins AND Lavine.

I bet every GM in the league would trade Smart for Wiggins
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