Does this fanbase get too enamored with homegrown talent and marginal players?

[liam]

Do not get me wrong, i love the energy and passion of our fanbase, I just don't think a lot of the teams some of you would like to see would win a title.

The Lakers are always look for proven stars, Kareem, Shaq, Pau, and the like. They appear to be targeting Paul George and were upset as an organization to miss out on Cousins.

I hate the Lakers but that's swinging for the fences and living in the now and proven.

When we have a 53 win conference Finals team and I hear about keeping our under 20 year old draft picks, it drives me crazy. Why would we not want Paul George or any elite 6 ft 7 wing to go with what we have. Why not Blake or Boogie when we had the shot.

Hayward is the lesser of George/Butler/Hayward imo. Why don't we want the highest shelf guys possible. Does this fan base just love them some underdogs and homegrown guys that much? Our last title run had 3 hall of famers as the stars, it takes a lot of talent to win.

Can I get some light shed here?

Because no matter what we do, the Cavs and the Warriors are on another level. If we can’t move the needle past Cleveland, it doesn’t mean anything. Best thing we can do right now is be patient and build through the draft. No need to trade away future assets just for a chance to play a couple more games against Cleveland.

Very rational...

[BostonClamCrowdah]

Uhh yes lol big time

[Chris22]

So we won the Eastern conference and made it all the way to the ECF with marginal players?
Bull sh...

[Monkhouse]

Yes, we do.

I believe we sometimes get so attached to our younger players, or players that have become apart of what it means to be a 'Celtic.'

[Monkhouse]

MARCUS SMART!

[SHAQATTACK]

can you say

Avery Bradley

[RockinRyA]

Homegrown, yes. Marginal, NO. Have you seen us clamoring for more Zeller?!

Every fanbase does though.

Oh, and eja, stop being shy. Just mention Marcus Smart already 

Hayward/Griffin(injury risks are very real though) wouldnt cost us as much as Butler and George. Butler doesnt fit our style of play as well, and has leadership/lockerroom issues. George might bolt for the Lakers after a year. Neither would move the needle much against Cleveland. Why sacrifice assets for them? So we can lose in 5 instead of 4?

[CF0022]

no we don't.  There is a reason why we draft the players we do.  They aren't frontrunners.

marginal players?  that's a frontrunner statement. more like totally underrated vs overrated.

still developing at times sure. Going against some really good teams.

If anything i think the cavs are a very good team.  they are marginal champions though.

[CF0022]

there is a reason why the celtics won how many in a row back in the day and guys like west and the lakers and wilt didn't.   It's not because they had marginal players.  It's because they had underrated ones vs overrated ones.  players that sacrifice their game to do what they do too.

the celtics have star players.  Some of them are still developing. 

[CF0022]

The celtics understand something the national media doesnt either. They aren't stat ****s.  They get players that are underrated too and what that is. Marginal? lol. 

More like better. They have more championships than any other team for a reason.

paul pierce also would have had more championships than lebron if the team didn't completely lose it's way under pitino.

lebron isn't that good.  he's a marginal champion.  honestly paul pierce was just as good a player as lebron in different ways.

I prefer pierce any day of the week.

media perception is what it is.

[crimcartel]

Yes.. someone had the nerve to start a resign olynyk thread. He sucks... He is a defensive and rebounding NEGATIVE..

[Casperian]

Does the pope fart in the woods?

[CF0022]

honestly pierce is just as good  a player as lebron too.  lebron front ran. he couldnt win in cleveland by himself either.  he went to miami then came back to cleveland when they got their **** together.  Pierce was loyal to the celtics during really tough times under pitino and jim obrien

the celtics players are not marginal.  They are underrated vs overrated players.

i 'm tred of the average person in this country thinking that too.  If the celtics have marginal players why do tehy win more than anyone?  why did wilt lose all those years to bill russell?  was tommy heinsohn marginal?  no he was underrated compared to overrated guys and a certain type of player. 

IT was the last pick in the draft.  Does that mean he's that good? no it means a lot of peopel are stupid. Ainge knew this.

i deal with people like this all the time on the intenet too. I'm always the idiot and this and that and think im better than everyone else.  When I'm sick of it. I  actually am smarter than most of you and dont think like that. A lot of people do though.

people will think what im saying here is ridiculous too. It's not. It's actually totally true.  I know how i think and I'm not a total aszhole like so many people in this country.

Marginal?? Really?  I've heard enugh from people on the internet and the stuff they think.  So disrespectful.

The celtics are the winningest team in abasketball history and their players are marginal?

[obnoxiousmime]

I would say that the Lakers are a unique entity because Los Angeles is a unique city. The market is fickle and showbiz driven. The organization is under a lot of pressure to keep the franchise relevant and not rebuild for too long a period. Since they are a historic franchise in one of the country's biggest cities, naturally they would use their location as part of their strategy.

They have a lot of fans, but they would lose interest if the team was bad for too long. The weather is always nice in LA. If the Lakers stink people will just get their entertainment from a different source, not necessarily basketball or sports. This is why the Rams moving there hasn't been the automatic slam dunk it should be if you just look at market size/income.

The necessity to trade for a star is lessened now because players have learned to wait for free agency. This discourages teams from unloading too many assets because the risk of the player leaving is too great. The Knicks foolishly traded a bunch of assets for Melo, then didn't have enough talent to surround him with. The Lakers lost Howard for nothing.

When's the last time a superstar player was dealt? One besides Cousins who was dealt because he was a head case? It just doesn't happen much these days.

[CF0022]

Danny Ainge is one of the best GM's in  basketball. They also have some of the most talent in the basketball. They are where they are for a reason. They are also still developing.  Ainge also understands stat stuffers also detract from the team at times. Stats are meaningless that way.  They llike players that understand this as well and are great people as well as great basketball players. 


If the celtics back int he day had Wilt instead of Bill Russell that's not necessarily better nor is Wilt a better player than Russell.  The national media would tell you otherwise back then but that's not the case.

Yes they've had some marginal leadership and issues in the past.  When Gaston was the owner they had marginal leadership from the top down. He was a terrible owner that way.  Grousbeck, DA all these guys know what they are doing and so does DA.  They have liked players in the past that weren't very good like Jerome Moiso etc. But so has every team.

They are greater than the sum of their parts that way in ways but their players are also underrated because of how they play. marcus, jaylen etc young players but still high draft picks.  They are different than other players.  Was Aaron Gordon better than Smart.  Or Dante Exum.  The celtics understood this.  I remember people hyping up Exum.

The plaeyrs they have are also fortunate to be surrounded by a great organization.  It just feeds off itself and the amount of negativity and ignorance that is out there.

IT was the last pick in the draft.  Tom Brady.  etc, etc. Boston is greater than peple think.  David Ortiz. He was found off hte scrap heap as well.

Boston  has stupid people like anywhere else but they are also the smartest and best city in the country in ways too.