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Re: Fultz is really 6'2" guys
« Reply #15 on: May 17, 2017, 07:04:46 PM »

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 Same height as Kenny Mayne from ESPN. Who is also 6'2". Not a big deal at all, but recent threads pushed him to 6'5".

 That's just too much. He will be listed in the NBA as 6'4". Still the pick no doubt.

The last measurement I can find is 6'3.5 and that's when he was 17 in 2016.

Also I see a 6'10" wingspan that's huge for a 6'2" player...



 Totally his wingspan is awesome but that's shoes on height your reading.
players listed heights are shoes on heights and last I checked they played with shoes on.



 Come on sports your better than that. Every other human on the planet talks in terms of shoes off height.

 You don't say my wife is 5'10' Heels on. No she's 5'5" heels off.
In pro basketball, heights are typically listed by what they are in shoes. At least as far as I've seen.

DraftExpress has him measured at 6'4" by USA basketball in 2015 and then 6'3.5 by USA Basketball in 2016. It also lists him at 6'4.75 at the Nike Hoop Summit in 2016. Which, I think, is typical. NBA player heights are never quite exact. I think calling him 6'4" is fine.
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Re: Fultz is really 6'2" guys
« Reply #16 on: May 17, 2017, 07:05:36 PM »

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 Same height as Kenny Mayne from ESPN. Who is also 6'2". Not a big deal at all, but recent threads pushed him to 6'5".

 That's just too much. He will be listed in the NBA as 6'4". Still the pick no doubt.

The last measurement I can find is 6'3.5 and that's when he was 17 in 2016.

Also I see a 6'10" wingspan that's huge for a 6'2" player...



 Totally his wingspan is awesome but that's shoes on height your reading.
players listed heights are shoes on heights and last I checked they played with shoes on.

They should list hockey players at their in-skates height, since last I checked they play hockey in skates. Tom Brady's actually 6'7" if you measure him in his spikes.
I think its stupid that they list them that way, but its the way it is.

Re: Fultz is really 6'2" guys
« Reply #17 on: May 17, 2017, 07:05:55 PM »

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 Same height as Kenny Mayne from ESPN. Who is also 6'2". Not a big deal at all, but recent threads pushed him to 6'5".

 That's just too much. He will be listed in the NBA as 6'4". Still the pick no doubt.

The last measurement I can find is 6'3.5 and that's when he was 17 in 2016.

Also I see a 6'10" wingspan that's huge for a 6'2" player...



 Totally his wingspan is awesome but that's shoes on height your reading.
players listed heights are shoes on heights and last I checked they played with shoes on.

Yeah, but it's well known that you have to only look at shoe off heights for our players, and then compare them to the average shoes on heights for players at their position. That way you can call them short
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Re: Fultz is really 6'2" guys
« Reply #18 on: May 17, 2017, 07:09:00 PM »

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 Same height as Kenny Mayne from ESPN. Who is also 6'2". Not a big deal at all, but recent threads pushed him to 6'5".

 That's just too much. He will be listed in the NBA as 6'4". Still the pick no doubt.

The last measurement I can find is 6'3.5 and that's when he was 17 in 2016.

Also I see a 6'10" wingspan that's huge for a 6'2" player...



 Totally his wingspan is awesome but that's shoes on height your reading.
players listed heights are shoes on heights and last I checked they played with shoes on.

They should list hockey players at their in-skates height, since last I checked they play hockey in skates. Tom Brady's actually 6'7" if you measure him in his spikes.
I think its stupid that they list them that way, but its the way it is.

Nobody's arguing that listed heights are inflated, they're saying that listed heights are meaningless numbers that should be ignored. For almost all players there are decent true measurements available online.

Re: Fultz is really 6'2" guys
« Reply #19 on: May 17, 2017, 07:17:14 PM »

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 Same height as Kenny Mayne from ESPN. Who is also 6'2". Not a big deal at all, but recent threads pushed him to 6'5".

 That's just too much. He will be listed in the NBA as 6'4". Still the pick no doubt.

The last measurement I can find is 6'3.5 and that's when he was 17 in 2016.

Also I see a 6'10" wingspan that's huge for a 6'2" player...



 Totally his wingspan is awesome but that's shoes on height your reading.
players listed heights are shoes on heights and last I checked they played with shoes on.

They should list hockey players at their in-skates height, since last I checked they play hockey in skates. Tom Brady's actually 6'7" if you measure him in his spikes.
I think its stupid that they list them that way, but its the way it is.

Nobody's arguing that listed heights are inflated, they're saying that listed heights are meaningless numbers that should be ignored. For almost all players there are decent true measurements available online.

Sure, you can ignore them if you also change your expectations got what prototypical heights for each position is. So if you look for a 6'0" PG, a 6'3" SG, a 6'6" SF, 6'8" PF, and 6'10" C.

But everyone would look at those heights and call them too short for the position. It's just being super nitpicky to use the shoes off heights when literally everything basketball related uses shoes on.

And honestly, height is just a number
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Re: Fultz is really 6'2" guys
« Reply #20 on: May 17, 2017, 07:21:45 PM »

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 Same height as Kenny Mayne from ESPN. Who is also 6'2". Not a big deal at all, but recent threads pushed him to 6'5".

 That's just too much. He will be listed in the NBA as 6'4". Still the pick no doubt.

The last measurement I can find is 6'3.5 and that's when he was 17 in 2016.

Also I see a 6'10" wingspan that's huge for a 6'2" player...



 Totally his wingspan is awesome but that's shoes on height your reading.
players listed heights are shoes on heights and last I checked they played with shoes on.

They should list hockey players at their in-skates height, since last I checked they play hockey in skates. Tom Brady's actually 6'7" if you measure him in his spikes.
I think its stupid that they list them that way, but its the way it is.

Nobody's arguing that listed heights are inflated, they're saying that listed heights are meaningless numbers that should be ignored. For almost all players there are decent true measurements available online.

Sure, you can ignore them if you also change your expectations got what prototypical heights for each position is. So if you look for a 6'0" PG, a 6'3" SG, a 6'6" SF, 6'8" PF, and 6'10" C.

But everyone would look at those heights and call them too short for the position. It's just being super nitpicky to use the shoes off heights when literally everything basketball related uses shoes on.

And honestly, height is just a number
this is what I was getting at.

Fultz has the size to play point gaurd or shooting guard.

Saying he is 6'2" gives the idea that he is even a bit undersized to play the 1.

Thats very misleading.

Re: Fultz is really 6'2" guys
« Reply #21 on: May 17, 2017, 07:36:29 PM »

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I'm pretty sure those measurements are including his hair.

He's actually 5'10" guys.
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« Reply #22 on: May 17, 2017, 07:39:13 PM »

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Re: Fultz is really 6'2" guys
« Reply #23 on: May 17, 2017, 07:45:33 PM »

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If we didn't win the lottery, a thread would have been made by somebody else talking about how Fultz is actually 6'7.  ;D
And I know which couple would make that thread!

Re: Fultz is really 6'2" guys
« Reply #24 on: May 17, 2017, 07:47:47 PM »

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 Same height as Kenny Mayne from ESPN. Who is also 6'2". Not a big deal at all, but recent threads pushed him to 6'5".

 That's just too much. He will be listed in the NBA as 6'4". Still the pick no doubt.

The last measurement I can find is 6'3.5 and that's when he was 17 in 2016.

Also I see a 6'10" wingspan that's huge for a 6'2" player...



 Totally his wingspan is awesome but that's shoes on height your reading.
players listed heights are shoes on heights and last I checked they played with shoes on.

They should list hockey players at their in-skates height, since last I checked they play hockey in skates. Tom Brady's actually 6'7" if you measure him in his spikes.
I think its stupid that they list them that way, but its the way it is.

Nobody's arguing that listed heights are inflated, they're saying that listed heights are meaningless numbers that should be ignored. For almost all players there are decent true measurements available online.

Sure, you can ignore them if you also change your expectations got what prototypical heights for each position is. So if you look for a 6'0" PG, a 6'3" SG, a 6'6" SF, 6'8" PF, and 6'10" C.

But everyone would look at those heights and call them too short for the position. It's just being super nitpicky to use the shoes off heights when literally everything basketball related uses shoes on.

And honestly, height is just a number
this is what I was getting at.

Fultz has the size to play point gaurd or shooting guard.

Saying he is 6'2" gives the idea that he is even a bit undersized to play the 1.

Thats very misleading.
I always take USA BASKETBALL MEASUREMENTS with a grain of salt.
Over the years I have noticed a trend at USA BASETBALL. It looks like they are liberal with player measurements: hieght with/and without shoes, wingspan, standing reach, and etc. . It seems like this is a way for USA BASKETBALL to entice more players to attend.

I do believe that Fultz is:
6'2.5'' -6'2.75''w/o shoes
6'4'' with shoes
6'10'' wingspan
8'6'' standing reach

To say his wingspan and standing reach are elite is an understatement.  I think someone .....me....should actually write as post about his wingspan and standing reach.

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« Reply #25 on: May 17, 2017, 07:52:11 PM »

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A lot of his height depends on his shoes.

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Markelle-Fultz-90302/

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« Reply #26 on: May 17, 2017, 08:19:25 PM »

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In photos Ball and Fultz look like they are the same height...

Re: Fultz is really 6'2" guys
« Reply #27 on: May 17, 2017, 08:28:33 PM »

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 Same height as Kenny Mayne from ESPN. Who is also 6'2". Not a big deal at all, but recent threads pushed him to 6'5".

 That's just too much. He will be listed in the NBA as 6'4". Still the pick no doubt.

The last measurement I can find is 6'3.5 and that's when he was 17 in 2016.

Also I see a 6'10" wingspan that's huge for a 6'2" player...



 Totally his wingspan is awesome but that's shoes on height your reading.
players listed heights are shoes on heights and last I checked they played with shoes on.

They should list hockey players at their in-skates height, since last I checked they play hockey in skates. Tom Brady's actually 6'7" if you measure him in his spikes.
I think its stupid that they list them that way, but its the way it is.

Nobody's arguing that listed heights are inflated, they're saying that listed heights are meaningless numbers that should be ignored. For almost all players there are decent true measurements available online.

Sure, you can ignore them if you also change your expectations got what prototypical heights for each position is. So if you look for a 6'0" PG, a 6'3" SG, a 6'6" SF, 6'8" PF, and 6'10" C.

But everyone would look at those heights and call them too short for the position. It's just being super nitpicky to use the shoes off heights when literally everything basketball related uses shoes on.

And honestly, height is just a number

No it's not. Measurements like height, wingspan, standing reach, no step/max vert etc. are of massive importance in basketball. It's not like other sports where everyone has a chance to play and be good at it. In soccer for instance, the best player in the world is 5'7. In basketball the rule of thumb is that if you are not tall enough, you are not gonna be good enough either (yeah I know, IT is 5'9). There is a significant difference between being let's say 6'3 and 6'5. Being taller means you can shoot over guys, you can see better angles for passes, you can force more turnovers, be a better rebounder, better shot blocker, so on and so forth. Basically you can be better at pretty much everything just because you are 2 inches taller.

I mean, come on, Jaylen Brown was just an impressive athlete a year ago. The sole reason Danny took a chance with him at #3 was because he had the perfect NBA body. Was he a great player at the time? Of course not. Can he become a great player in the future? Hell yeah!! Height (among other measurements) matters. Always did and always will.

Re: Fultz is really 6'2" guys
« Reply #28 on: May 17, 2017, 08:43:27 PM »

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 Same height as Kenny Mayne from ESPN. Who is also 6'2". Not a big deal at all, but recent threads pushed him to 6'5".

 That's just too much. He will be listed in the NBA as 6'4". Still the pick no doubt.

The last measurement I can find is 6'3.5 and that's when he was 17 in 2016.

Also I see a 6'10" wingspan that's huge for a 6'2" player...



 Totally his wingspan is awesome but that's shoes on height your reading.
players listed heights are shoes on heights and last I checked they played with shoes on.

They should list hockey players at their in-skates height, since last I checked they play hockey in skates. Tom Brady's actually 6'7" if you measure him in his spikes.
I think its stupid that they list them that way, but its the way it is.

Nobody's arguing that listed heights are inflated, they're saying that listed heights are meaningless numbers that should be ignored. For almost all players there are decent true measurements available online.

Sure, you can ignore them if you also change your expectations got what prototypical heights for each position is. So if you look for a 6'0" PG, a 6'3" SG, a 6'6" SF, 6'8" PF, and 6'10" C.

But everyone would look at those heights and call them too short for the position. It's just being super nitpicky to use the shoes off heights when literally everything basketball related uses shoes on.

And honestly, height is just a number
this is what I was getting at.

Fultz has the size to play point gaurd or shooting guard.

Saying he is 6'2" gives the idea that he is even a bit undersized to play the 1.

Thats very misleading.
I always take USA BASKETBALL MEASUREMENTS with a grain of salt.
Over the years I have noticed a trend at USA BASETBALL. It looks like they are liberal with player measurements: hieght with/and without shoes, wingspan, standing reach, and etc. . It seems like this is a way for USA BASKETBALL to entice more players to attend.

I do believe that Fultz is:
6'2.5'' -6'2.75''w/o shoes
6'4'' with shoes
6'10'' wingspan
8'6'' standing reach

To say his wingspan and standing reach are elite is an understatement.  I think someone .....me....should actually write as post about his wingspan and standing reach.
Same thing goes for official college team measurements. Seems like teams are keen to boost the measurements of their players just to give them a better chance to attract interest from scouts around the league. Hoop summits don't tend to be particularly reliable as well. The organizers want to attract the best players from around the nation, so they have every incentive in the world to release fake measurements in order to please the participants.
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