In retrospect, was Ainge right not to make a trade at deadline?

[MBunge]

In retrospect, I think it looks like Danny did the right thing.

May I bump this after the CAVS series?

The only trade that may have possibly helped this team get past the Cavs would have been DeMarcus Cousins.  Guys like Ibaka and Tucker were not going to make a difference and guys like Butler and George would have required us to give up so much that it's hard to say if the team would have been any better overall.

Cousins, however, was gettable for relative peanuts and could have immensely improved our talent level.

Mike

[Darío SpanishFan]

In retrospect, I think it looks like Danny did the right thing.

May I bump this after the CAVS series?

Bump it. Ibaka, Tucker or Bogdanovic don't make a difference against the Cavs.

[nickagneta]

In retrospect, I think it looks like Danny did the right thing.

May I bump this after the CAVS series?

Go right ahead. As I thought I said, I didn't and don't think any trade would have got us past the Cavs. If it did, it certainly wouldn't get the Celtics past the Warriors.

[Ilikesports17]

I don't think anything could validate Danny Ainge more than a loss in 5 in the ECF.

That would prove 2things.

1. This team he put together is awesomE and he was right to have faith in them
2. There isn't a single move (save Cousins) who could have pushed us over the top.

You lose before the ECF  and it looks bit like  Ainge overrated his own guys.

You push Cle to 7 and all of a sudden you start questioning whether or not Ainge missed a huge opportunity to maybe go steal a ring.

[mr. dee]

It did some like Tucker and Ibaka didn't make a big difference in helping Toronto and Noel was not healthy enough after the trade to really help Dallas. I was bummed we didn't, but not sure we would be any better off.

10 to 15 rebounds a night would certainly help this team.  Ibaka is a huge upgrade over Amir I disappear Johnson. DA dropped the ball n this one.

The problem is he only grabbed 15 rebounds in the whole Cavs series and people have the nerve to complain about Horford's rebounding numbers.

[Ilikesports17]

In retrospect, I think it looks like Danny did the right thing.

May I bump this after the CAVS series?

Bump it. Ibaka, Tucker or Bogdanovic don't make a difference against the Cavs.

In fact, a blowout validates his decision more than a close game does.

If we make the ECF and really push Cleveland it means that a Tucker or an Ibaka or a Melo maybe could have actually pushed us over the top.

If we get dismissed in 4 or 5 Then it shows Ibaka or Tucker would have been pointless.

[CELTICSofBOSTON]

Mostly, yes.

I do think Demarcus Cousins was had for very cheap.  I think he is a top 10 talent in the NBA and could've helped us now, and in the future.

Obviously, we don't know what was going on within the Kings organization.  Apparently, they thought Hield was Steph Curry 2.0 or something. If that's the case, one: The Kings owner is dillusional and two: maybe we were not able to beat that package.

I think Butler and George would've cost too much and I believe Ibaka was not nearly a good enough player to get us any closer to Cleveland.

Like I said,  the only real regret was not getting Cousins but even if we did, the fit may not have been perfect.

[obnoxiousmime]

In retrospect, I think it looks like Danny did the right thing.

May I bump this after the CAVS series?

The only trade that may have possibly helped this team get past the Cavs would have been DeMarcus Cousins.  Guys like Ibaka and Tucker were not going to make a difference and guys like Butler and George would have required us to give up so much that it's hard to say if the team would have been any better overall.

Cousins, however, was gettable for relative peanuts and could have immensely improved our talent level.

Mike

We don't know for sure how gettable he was. Ranadive really liked Buddy Hield, more so than other teams. We know how much he values shooting and Hield is still on his rookie deal for three more years. If you think Hield is a player, that's certainly not nothing.

Looking at the Celtics' assets, we don't really have anything comparable in value besides Jaylen Brown. Smart is not a good shooter, Rozier hadn't shown much, Olynyk is going to be a FA soon. Bradley maybe could have gotten it done, or Crowder, though they're older than Hield and more expensive.

Also complicating things is we only have the Brooklyn pick in the first round this year and a sure to be in the 20s first rounder in 2018. Sacramento wanted a pick and the BKN pick probably was too valuable for the Celts to consider. Could we have included a third team and acquired a mid-first rounder? Maybe, but Smart, Rozier, Olynyk, those guys are not going to get that done. It would have cost Bradley or Crowder again.

So in conclusion, it would have cost us at least two players out of Brown, Crowder, and Bradley to top the New Orleans deal in Sacramento's eyes. Otherwise, you would have had to include the BKN picks. Either way, it definitely wouldn't have been as cheap as people think.

[jpotter33]

I think the extremely low price of Tucker was worth it regardless of the circumstances, especially with our rebounding woes and his penchant for hitting the boards. I think he would've helped us more than people think.

Ibaka is a bit different story. I still feel like he puts us right in contention with Cleveland, and he also would be the fifth starter that Brad has continuously struggled to find this postseason, specifically this particular series. However, I do understand the argument of not getting him for cap space reasons this summer if they're confident about Hayward. Granted, we still could've had both by simply not retaining the Bird rights (and cap hold) of Ibaka this summer, but I see the argument of not wanting to waste Rozier and the Clips pick in the process.

As for Butler and George, I think the vast majority on here feel as if Danny did a great job by not overpaying for them at the deadline. I think both can be had for cheaper prices this summer, and I doubt they would've brought us over the edge this year anyways due to how long it'd take for them to get integrated in our system, let alone the losses we would have to get used to in losing rotation players.

[ThaPreacher]

Maybe not making a move was Ainge letting these guys grow up...No help coming, we have to do it ourselves.

TP

Ainge is a baseball guy and wants to build a culture with home grown young guys developing and coming up through the system.

And do we really want a journeyman like PJ Tucker taking minutes away from Jaylen Brown?

I'm glad we stayed pat and not only kept our flexibility, but kept our continuity.

Well Cousins could have been had, and that is a loss no matter how you look at it.
I like our flexibility and clearly we are not going to overpay, while we have draft choices.
But, I have a feeling we'll be singing a different tune-if we face the Cavs.

[Roy H.]

They should have traded for Boogie, and perhaps Tucker as well.

[nickagneta]

They should have traded for Boogie, and perhaps Tucker as well.

Knew this was coming😄

[2short]

Without knowing the cost it's hard to say no deal was the right deal.

Agree
I'd love to add butler to team but only trades were going to gut the c's.  We are a player or two away for really contending but we have draft picks, trade prospects, free agent $
We have LOTS of different ways to improve

[SHAQATTACK]

you got to wonder .....how far the team might have went with Cousins in the playoffs.

guess we ll never know 

[hpantazo]

I think the extremely low price of Tucker was worth it regardless of the circumstances, especially with our rebounding woes and his penchant for hitting the boards. I think he would've helped us more than people think.

Ibaka is a bit different story. I still feel like he puts us right in contention with Cleveland, and he also would be the fifth starter that Brad has continuously struggled to find this postseason, specifically this particular series. However, I do understand the argument of not getting him for cap space reasons this summer if they're confident about Hayward. Granted, we still could've had both by simply not retaining the Bird rights (and cap hold) of Ibaka this summer, but I see the argument of not wanting to waste Rozier and the Clips pick in the process.

As for Butler and George, I think the vast majority on here feel as if Danny did a great job by not overpaying for them at the deadline. I think both can be had for cheaper prices this summer, and I doubt they would've brought us over the edge this year anyways due to how long it'd take for them to get integrated in our system, let alone the losses we would have to get used to in losing rotation players.

If we could have gotten BOTH Butler and George, then it would have been worth it. From all the quote by Ainge, Wyc, and co. after the deadline, and even from rival GMs, it seems that was what they were aiming for, but either Chicago or Indiana or both held out for parts that they were saving for the deal with the other team in order to get both done.

Getting both of them would have made us instant contenders together with IT and Horford.

Getting one of the two wouldn't have helped us get banner 18 this year though, and would have gutted our team and assets.