Woj: Noel for Bogut + Anderson + protected 1st

[BitterJim]

Oh, COME ON! ! !

We can't match that price? Amir, a 1st, a 2nd and James Young/Gerald Green? Really???

Come the heck on, man!!!

We could have, but unless we were willing to pay him a max or near-max contract this summer, why bother?

[celticinorlando]

Remember when people thought Boston was going to give up that #3 pick last year for Noel? Long time ago

[BitterJim]

ainge doesn't value blocks or rebounding simple as that

If he wants rebounding he wouldn't go with Noel

[Eddie20]

Remember when people thought Boston was going to give up that #3 pick last year for Noel? Long time ago

Ah, the Sixers fans....such naive people.

[celticsclay]

i dont get it for philly - giving up noel for basically a late first round pick doesn't seem like a great return to me
 is it bc they figured they'd lose him soon for nothing anyway?

It is precisely because they'd lose him for nothing.

I think people are overlooking Anderson. He's an excellent wing prospect.

Jeepers, you've already upgraded him from very good to excellent in this thread.  I'd think you'd need some kind of shooting ability to be called an excellent wing prospect.  Anderson was the 23rd pick a couple of years ago.  As a college junior, he was expected to be able to contribute pretty quickly, but 1.75 seasons into his career he still couldn't get into 15 minutes of game action on a not very good team.  I'm sure he'll get more minutes in Philly by default, but he has not shown himself to be anything resembling excellent.

He is an excellent wing prospect? He is 6 months older than Rozier and is shooting worse from 3 than Rozier also. Nobody would call Rozier an excellent prospect at this point either so that take is just kind of ridiculous.

The biggest benefit of him coming into the league was that he was old for a rookie and believed to be able to contribute right away. His shot has not translated to the NBA in 1 season and 2/3rd and his defense has actually been worse this year than last year.

Side note: Big of a meltdown on liberty ballers over this trade.

[Yoki_IsTheName]

Oh, COME ON! ! !

We can't match that price? Amir, a 1st, a 2nd and James Young/Gerald Green? Really???

Come the heck on, man!!!

We could have, but unless we were willing to pay him a max or near-max contract this summer, why bother?

It matters because he's a good player, who's could turn out to be really good. We're going to have to pay another big regardless, to solve our rebounding/rim protection issues, so why not Nerlens?

[hpantazo]

i dont get it for philly - giving up noel for basically a late first round pick doesn't seem like a great return to me
 is it bc they figured they'd lose him soon for nothing anyway?

It is precisely because they'd lose him for nothing.

I think people are overlooking Anderson. He's an excellent wing prospect.

Jeepers, you've already upgraded him from very good to excellent in this thread.  I'd think you'd need some kind of shooting ability to be called an excellent wing prospect.  Anderson was the 23rd pick a couple of years ago.  As a college junior, he was expected to be able to contribute pretty quickly, but 1.75 seasons into his career he still couldn't get into 15 minutes of game action on a not very good team.  I'm sure he'll get more minutes in Philly by default, but he has not shown himself to be anything resembling excellent.

He is an excellent wing prospect? He is 6 months older than Rozier and is shooting worse from 3 than Rozier also. Nobody would call Rozier an excellent prospect at this point either so that take is just kind of ridiculous.

The biggest benefit of him coming into the league was that he was old for a rookie and believed to be able to contribute right away. His shot has not translated to the NBA in 1 season and 2/3rd and his defense has actually been worse this year than last year.

Side note: Big of a meltdown on liberty ballers over this trade.

Like I said , he's being overlooked. Time will tell.

[goCeltics]

ainge doesn't value blocks or rebounding simple as that

If he wants rebounding he wouldn't go with Noel

Rebounding stats are relative to who is on ur team

[Eddie20]

Oh, COME ON! ! !

We can't match that price? Amir, a 1st, a 2nd and James Young/Gerald Green? Really???

Come the heck on, man!!!

We could have, but unless we were willing to pay him a max or near-max contract this summer, why bother?

It matters because he's a good player, who's could turn out to be really good. We're going to have to pay another big regardless, to solve our rebounding/rim protection issues, so why not Nerlens?

Because he's not good enough to use a large percentage of cap room on. Zizic, who Kevin O'Conner said this morning would be a top 10 pick in the year's draft with the way he's developed, would be a fine and much cheaper alternative.

[Eddie20]

i dont get it for philly - giving up noel for basically a late first round pick doesn't seem like a great return to me
 is it bc they figured they'd lose him soon for nothing anyway?

It is precisely because they'd lose him for nothing.

I think people are overlooking Anderson. He's an excellent wing prospect.

Jeepers, you've already upgraded him from very good to excellent in this thread.  I'd think you'd need some kind of shooting ability to be called an excellent wing prospect.  Anderson was the 23rd pick a couple of years ago.  As a college junior, he was expected to be able to contribute pretty quickly, but 1.75 seasons into his career he still couldn't get into 15 minutes of game action on a not very good team.  I'm sure he'll get more minutes in Philly by default, but he has not shown himself to be anything resembling excellent.

He is an excellent wing prospect? He is 6 months older than Rozier and is shooting worse from 3 than Rozier also. Nobody would call Rozier an excellent prospect at this point either so that take is just kind of ridiculous.

The biggest benefit of him coming into the league was that he was old for a rookie and believed to be able to contribute right away. His shot has not translated to the NBA in 1 season and 2/3rd and his defense has actually been worse this year than last year.

Side note: Big of a meltdown on liberty ballers over this trade.

Like I said , he's being overlooked. Time will tell.

It's not just his shot that's an issue. His IQ is questionable, which has caused his playing time to be very sporadic.

[Yoki_IsTheName]

Oh, COME ON! ! !

We can't match that price? Amir, a 1st, a 2nd and James Young/Gerald Green? Really???

Come the heck on, man!!!

We could have, but unless we were willing to pay him a max or near-max contract this summer, why bother?

It matters because he's a good player, who's could turn out to be really good. We're going to have to pay another big regardless, to solve our rebounding/rim protection issues, so why not Nerlens?

Because he's not good enough to use a large percentage of cap room on. Zizic, who Kevin O'Conner said this morning would be a top 10 pick in the year's draft with the way he's developed, would be a fine and much cheaper alternative.

Okay, that's a fair point.

I'll take it.

[BitterJim]

ainge doesn't value blocks or rebounding simple as that

If he wants rebounding he wouldn't go with Noel

Rebounding stats are relative to who is on ur team

And Embiid is the first plus-rebounding big he's played next to (with Okafor, a poor rebounder, and Mbah a Moute, another poor rebounder, as the bigs besides Nerlens that played the most minutes before this season).  Noel has been a poor rebounder by pretty much any metric, and playing next to poor rebounders should have helped that.  He's just not a good rebounder

[Eddie20]

Oh, COME ON! ! !

We can't match that price? Amir, a 1st, a 2nd and James Young/Gerald Green? Really???

Come the heck on, man!!!

We could have, but unless we were willing to pay him a max or near-max contract this summer, why bother?

It matters because he's a good player, who's could turn out to be really good. We're going to have to pay another big regardless, to solve our rebounding/rim protection issues, so why not Nerlens?

Because he's not good enough to use a large percentage of cap room on. Zizic, who Kevin O'Conner said this morning would be a top 10 pick in the year's draft with the way he's developed, would be a fine and much cheaper alternative.

Okay, that's a fair point.

I'll take it.

I was watching some highlights of him on CSNNE and he looks pretty impressive. I think he's basically a lock to be in the rotation.

[BitterJim]

Oh, COME ON! ! !

We can't match that price? Amir, a 1st, a 2nd and James Young/Gerald Green? Really???

Come the heck on, man!!!

We could have, but unless we were willing to pay him a max or near-max contract this summer, why bother?

It matters because he's a good player, who's could turn out to be really good. We're going to have to pay another big regardless, to solve our rebounding/rim protection issues, so why not Nerlens?

Noel isn't gonna solve anybody's rebounding issues.  As a defensive rebounder, he's about on Olynyk's level

[saltlover]

ainge doesn't value blocks or rebounding simple as that

If he wants rebounding he wouldn't go with Noel

Rebounding stats are relative to who is on ur team

And Embiid is the first plus-rebounding big he's played next to (with Okafor, a poor rebounder, and Mbah a Moute, another poor rebounder, as the bigs besides Nerlens that played the most minutes before this season).  Noel has been a poor rebounder by pretty much any metric, and playing next to poor rebounders should have helped that.  He's just not a good rebounder

He only played like 8 minutes total with Embiid, as well.