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Re: Latest Report: Cousins intends to Resign with Kings
« Reply #30 on: January 11, 2017, 12:54:18 PM »

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All this just doesn't make sense. Cousins said he is angry because he wants to win and tired of losing and now he will resign? Maybe he just wants to sign that deal and get traded year later?

And the Kings? Continuing to lose years with offering new deal? Why not trade him and start fresh? No free agents will sign there, so even if he stays how they gonna become better?

Chase the money first.  Get it.  Do the complaining later.

For the Kings, I don't see much incentive to not try & keep him.

They should trade him. I think trade value quite big now and not sure it will be bigger when he is 2-3 years older

His trade value will be much higher next year when he's locked into a 6-year deal.

Re: Latest Report: Cousins intends to Resign with Kings
« Reply #31 on: January 11, 2017, 01:23:21 PM »

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All this just doesn't make sense. Cousins said he is angry because he wants to win and tired of losing and now he will resign? Maybe he just wants to sign that deal and get traded year later?

And the Kings? Continuing to lose years with offering new deal? Why not trade him and start fresh? No free agents will sign there, so even if he stays how they gonna become better?

Chase the money first.  Get it.  Do the complaining later.

For the Kings, I don't see much incentive to not try & keep him.

Absolutely. Get paid. It's a business.

Worry about a ring later, and force a trade then.

I want Boogie here more than anybody, but he'd be a fool to leave $50 million or so on the table.  That money will set up his family for generations.


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Re: Latest Report: Cousins intends to Resign with Kings
« Reply #32 on: January 11, 2017, 01:28:00 PM »

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I don't care what occupation you're in.  Passing up roughly 33% additional income is a HUGE chunk of change. 

Sure, you can argue that these guys are way overpaid in the great scheme of society but you're also taking about an earning window for their skill set that is much smaller than the average person.

Can't fault these guys for chasing the dollar.  Most people would in that instance.

Agreed 100%.
Signing this deal would also help prove to me that Cousins is a rational human being.
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Re: Latest Report: Cousins intends to Resign with Kings
« Reply #33 on: January 11, 2017, 01:30:01 PM »

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I cant believe their fans support this team... One of the worst team ever... Have they even made the playoffs in the past? Unmemorable

Well they were the most exciting team in the NBA and made the playoffs for 8 straight years, ending in 2006 which is not long ago, and were one shot away from a trip to the finals (and a likely ring).

The Kings have a lot of loyal fans who remember that era. And they just got a new arena, so there's lots of excitement about that.


Re: Latest Report: Cousins intends to Resign with Kings
« Reply #34 on: January 11, 2017, 01:32:14 PM »

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He'd be stupid if he turned down that money. Smart move on his part.
Can't disagree more on this, there are something you can't buy,ex:winning
especially if you are an millionaire, yes it's a HUGE money but does it really makes so much difference in your life?

My guess is he want's to stay because he wants to be the BOSS on the team and can do whatever he wants
Did Kevin Garnett not want to win when he signed that big deal in Minnesota?  What about Dirk, he kept re-upping in Dallas on a team with very limited success, before they finally got over the hump?  Plenty of reasons to want to stay where you are.  I mean he might just like living in Sacramento.  Maybe he sees progress and likes the coach and management.  Maybe he wants to see it through.  I mean people gave Lebron James so much crap because he left Cleveland to go to a place where he could win.

Good point. People are very biased on this forum. Which is ok- its a Celtics blog. It just means that you have to parse through more posts to try to uncover what might somehow resemble a modicum of reality.

If Cousins likes Sacramento, who are we to say that he shouldn't sign there? Who are we to say that Sacramento will never win, because they haven't in the past? What were the reputations of the GSW, Cleveland Cavaliers, Toronto Raptors and LA Clippers (4 of the top 6/7 teams) 5 years ago? Things can change quickly in this league.

If Sacramento wins the lottery, picks Fultz, and signs a decent FA, wouldn't they be on the right path?

If I were Boogie, I'd ask to hear what management's Plan A, B, and C are before signing another contract.
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Re: Latest Report: Cousins intends to Resign with Kings
« Reply #35 on: January 11, 2017, 01:37:10 PM »

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He'd be stupid if he turned down that money. Smart move on his part.
Can't disagree more on this, there are something you can't buy,ex:winning
especially if you are an millionaire, yes it's a HUGE money but does it really makes so much difference in your life?

My guess is he want's to stay because he wants to be the BOSS on the team and can do whatever he wants
Did Kevin Garnett not want to win when he signed that big deal in Minnesota?  What about Dirk, he kept re-upping in Dallas on a team with very limited success, before they finally got over the hump?  Plenty of reasons to want to stay where you are.  I mean he might just like living in Sacramento.  Maybe he sees progress and likes the coach and management.  Maybe he wants to see it through.  I mean people gave Lebron James so much crap because he left Cleveland to go to a place where he could win.

Good point. People are very biased on this forum. Which is ok- its a Celtics blog. It just means that you have to parse through more posts to try to uncover what might somehow resemble a modicum of reality.

If Cousins likes Sacramento, who are we to say that he shouldn't sign there? Who are we to say that Sacramento will never win, because they haven't in the past? What were the reputations of the GSW, Cleveland Cavaliers, Toronto Raptors and LA Clippers (4 of the top 6/7 teams) 5 years ago? Things can change quickly in this league.

If Sacramento wins the lottery, picks Fultz, and signs a decent FA, wouldn't they be on the right path?

If I were Boogie, I'd ask to hear what management's Plan A, B, and C are before signing another contract.
both Dirk and KG had multiple 50 win seasons prior to reupping. Demarcus has watched his organization botch countless top 10 picks and they have never made the playoffs.

That said, Demarcus would be stupid to pass up this kind of money.

Re: Latest Report: Cousins intends to Resign with Kings
« Reply #36 on: January 11, 2017, 01:41:22 PM »

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He'd be stupid if he turned down that money. Smart move on his part.
Can't disagree more on this, there are something you can't buy,ex:winning
especially if you are an millionaire, yes it's a HUGE money but does it really makes so much difference in your life?

My guess is he want's to stay because he wants to be the BOSS on the team and can do whatever he wants
Did Kevin Garnett not want to win when he signed that big deal in Minnesota?  What about Dirk, he kept re-upping in Dallas on a team with very limited success, before they finally got over the hump?  Plenty of reasons to want to stay where you are.  I mean he might just like living in Sacramento.  Maybe he sees progress and likes the coach and management.  Maybe he wants to see it through.  I mean people gave Lebron James so much crap because he left Cleveland to go to a place where he could win.

Good point. People are very biased on this forum. Which is ok- its a Celtics blog. It just means that you have to parse through more posts to try to uncover what might somehow resemble a modicum of reality.

If Cousins likes Sacramento, who are we to say that he shouldn't sign there? Who are we to say that Sacramento will never win, because they haven't in the past? What were the reputations of the GSW, Cleveland Cavaliers, Toronto Raptors and LA Clippers (4 of the top 6/7 teams) 5 years ago? Things can change quickly in this league.

If Sacramento wins the lottery, picks Fultz, and signs a decent FA, wouldn't they be on the right path?

If I were Boogie, I'd ask to hear what management's Plan A, B, and C are before signing another contract.
both Dirk and KG had multiple 50 win seasons prior to reupping. Demarcus has watched his organization botch countless top 10 picks and they have never made the playoffs.

That said, Demarcus would be stupid to pass up this kind of money.

I agree. I like reading how many keyboard warriors would make "better decisions" if they were confronted with a $100 million dollar payday. Without any skin in the game, our opinions don't matter. Like, at all!

Again, this is fine b/c its a Celtics blog, but come one guys. Thinking isn't required before typing- just recommended.
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Re: Latest Report: Cousins intends to Resign with Kings
« Reply #37 on: January 11, 2017, 01:44:53 PM »

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It makes a lot of sense from both sides if he signs a max deal with the Kings. He wont pass up that money now to go elsewhere this season, but he can still ask for a trade after he re-signs. For the Kings, they may already know this but re-signing him puts them in a position of strength in trade negotiations and they can also please their fans and sell more tickets in the short term.

Re: Latest Report: Cousins intends to Resign with Kings
« Reply #38 on: January 11, 2017, 01:56:33 PM »

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He'd be stupid if he turned down that money. Smart move on his part.
Can't disagree more on this, there are something you can't buy,ex:winning
especially if you are an millionaire, yes it's a HUGE money but does it really makes so much difference in your life?

My guess is he want's to stay because he wants to be the BOSS on the team and can do whatever he wants
Did Kevin Garnett not want to win when he signed that big deal in Minnesota?  What about Dirk, he kept re-upping in Dallas on a team with very limited success, before they finally got over the hump?  Plenty of reasons to want to stay where you are.  I mean he might just like living in Sacramento.  Maybe he sees progress and likes the coach and management.  Maybe he wants to see it through.  I mean people gave Lebron James so much crap because he left Cleveland to go to a place where he could win.

Good point. People are very biased on this forum. Which is ok- its a Celtics blog. It just means that you have to parse through more posts to try to uncover what might somehow resemble a modicum of reality.

If Cousins likes Sacramento, who are we to say that he shouldn't sign there? Who are we to say that Sacramento will never win, because they haven't in the past? What were the reputations of the GSW, Cleveland Cavaliers, Toronto Raptors and LA Clippers (4 of the top 6/7 teams) 5 years ago? Things can change quickly in this league.

If Sacramento wins the lottery, picks Fultz, and signs a decent FA, wouldn't they be on the right path?

If I were Boogie, I'd ask to hear what management's Plan A, B, and C are before signing another contract.
both Dirk and KG had multiple 50 win seasons prior to reupping. Demarcus has watched his organization botch countless top 10 picks and they have never made the playoffs.

That said, Demarcus would be stupid to pass up this kind of money.
Garnett signed a 6 year extension during the 97/98 season.  Minnesota didn't win 50 games until 99/00.  Garnett re-signed in 04/05 coming off a season that Minnesota didn't even make the playoffs though was a season removed from the one and only season Garnett made it out of the 1st round. 

Dirk is a bit different, but Dallas was generally considered a franchise that wasn't able to build a champion around Dirk, yet he stayed loyal and finally reached pay dirt.
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Re: Latest Report: Cousins intends to Resign with Kings
« Reply #39 on: January 11, 2017, 02:11:40 PM »

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I am happy for them. They deserve each other.
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Re: Latest Report: Cousins intends to Resign with Kings
« Reply #40 on: January 11, 2017, 02:13:52 PM »

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It makes a lot of sense from both sides if he signs a max deal with the Kings. He wont pass up that money now to go elsewhere this season, but he can still ask for a trade after he re-signs. For the Kings, they may already know this but re-signing him puts them in a position of strength in trade negotiations and they can also please their fans and sell more tickets in the short term.

Put a different way, I'm quite sure that if the rights to offer the extension could be passed along in a trade (as Bird rights can), Cousins would be moved at the deadline.
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Re: Latest Report: Cousins intends to Resign with Kings
« Reply #41 on: January 11, 2017, 02:53:40 PM »

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I cant believe their fans support this team... One of the worst team ever... Have they even made the playoffs in the past? Unmemorable

Did you just start watching basketball recently? The Webber, Divac, Peja, and Bibby Kings were one of the best and most fun teams to watch during their time. The ball movement was unbelievable. If it wasn't for some horrid 4Q officiating vs LA they probably would've won a title.

Re: Latest Report: Cousins intends to Resign with Kings
« Reply #42 on: January 11, 2017, 03:01:00 PM »

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I cant believe their fans support this team... One of the worst team ever... Have they even made the playoffs in the past? Unmemorable

Did you just start watching basketball recently? The Webber, Divac, Peja, and Bibby Kings were one of the best and most fun teams to watch during their time. The ball movement was unbelievable. If it wasn't for some horrid 4Q officiating vs LA they probably would've won a title.

I've wondered this myself.

Re: Latest Report: Cousins intends to Resign with Kings
« Reply #43 on: January 11, 2017, 03:08:17 PM »

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Maybe that'll finally cut the number of Cousins threads on here in half (ha....who am I kidding?).

Yup, who ya kidding. ;)

Cousins threads are like hydras: Cut off one thread possibility and three grow in. Imagine all the possibilities that we have for threads now. They include, but are not limited to:

1) Are the Kings just letting this leak to increase his trade value?
2) How soon can they trade him after he resigns?
3) Who would the Celtics have to move to get him after he resigns with Sacramento?
4) Is it really fun to find out what makes an ocean wave wave, and is her name really Karen?
5) Does this mean that we're stuck with Noel?

Really, the possibilities are endless...

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Re: Latest Report: Cousins intends to Resign with Kings
« Reply #44 on: January 11, 2017, 03:40:33 PM »

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Cousins was never going anywhere...