Will Stevens move Kelly Olynyk into the starting line up? when?

[2short]

Kelly's defense is very good.  I think people are still thinking of his rookie season.  Maybe he can't guard cousins on the post (who can) but he is a very very good help and team defender.  He has a good handle, stretches the floor.  Is he still our best 3 pt shooter?  Very good passer.

I'm not knocking amir as he is a very good defender, passer, pick and roll guy.  But I think the team is better with Kelly starting.  Our offense and ball movement improves quite a bit and defense is the same or a step back, rebounding equal.  This gives us two bigs who stretch the floor in every way.  Our second unit now has a true center off the bench.  I feel its a better blend

[MBunge]

KO should get a shot at starting but for whatever reason, Amir is an automatic starter for Stevens.  I know KO is everyone's favorite whipping boy but there have stretches the past two seasons where Amir has looked absolutely cooked.

Mike

[Celtics4ever]

If he could shoot 40% from three like he did last year and keep playing suspiciously above-average defense, then he's starter worthy no matter how ****ty he is at everything else

As for this statement on him being worthy starter, only on a team not going far in the playoffs.  No way a guy with his numbers would be a starter on a contender given his present production!

[chilidawg]

KO should get a shot at starting but for whatever reason, Amir is an automatic starter for Stevens.  I know KO is everyone's favorite whipping boy but there have stretches the past two seasons where Amir has looked absolutely cooked.

Mike

He has used Jerebko as a starter a couple times, so clearly he's thinking about it.  Either JJ or KO seem to be first off the bench to play with the starters most nights.

[SHAQATTACK]

He plays good against trash teams.

[vjcsmoke]

Move ihim to Phillys bench for Noel

He is a big with NO big skills we need .

We need interior rebounding and defense , someone physical , not somebody who avoids contact.

LOL. Olynyk is one of the best shooting and ball handling 7 footers in the NBA.
He's not Jared Sullinger, he's KO.

Just because you believe bigs should only rebound and shoot from 12 feet with their backs to the basket, doesn't mean that's the only useful skill for a big to have in today's NBA.

Noel's value is at rock bottom right now. Can't crack the rotation of the worst team in the NBA.  Can't shoot from range.  I'm not even sure he's worth KO.  I'd give the 76ers very little as possible in a Noel trade.  We're almost doing them a favor at this point to relieve their logjam of big men.

To answer the OP, I believe KO is best coming off the bench as a mismatch for other bigs and as a floor spacer for the Celtics.

[saltlover]

He plays good against trash teams.

A lot of players take those games off, so good thing he doesn't!

[SHAQATTACK]

Move ihim to Phillys bench for Noel

He is a big with NO big skills we need .

We need interior rebounding and defense , someone physical , not somebody who avoids contact.

LOL. Olynyk is one of the best shooting and ball handling 7 footers in the NBA.
He's not Jared Sullinger, he's KO.

Just because you believe bigs should only rebound and shoot from 12 feet with their backs to the basket, doesn't mean that's the only useful skill for a big to have in today's NBA.

Noel's value is at rock bottom right now. Can't crack the rotation of the worst team in the NBA.  Can't shoot from range.  I'm not even sure he's worth KO.  I'd give the 76ers very little as possible in a Noel trade.  We're almost doing them a favor at this point to relieve their logjam of big men.

To answer the OP, I believe KO is best coming off the bench as a mismatch for other bigs and as a floor spacer for the Celtics.

I bet Philly would not trade Noel even up for KO. .......they d hang up.

[chambers]

If he could shoot 40% from three like he did last year and keep playing suspiciously above-average defense, then he's starter worthy no matter how ****ty he is at everything else

As for this statement on him being worthy starter, only on a team not going far in the playoffs.  No way a guy with his numbers would be a starter on a contender given his present production!

He only plays 20 minutes a game right now.
Having him on the floor gives us better defense vs the pick and roll and better offense with the floor being spread.
It's his style of play thats so important.

[oldtype]

If he could shoot 40% from three like he did last year and keep playing suspiciously above-average defense, then he's starter worthy no matter how ****ty he is at everything else

As for this statement on him being worthy starter, only on a team not going far in the playoffs.  No way a guy with his numbers would be a starter on a contender given his present production!

He only plays 20 minutes a game right now.
Having him on the floor gives us better defense vs the pick and roll and better offense with the floor being spread.
It's his style of play thats so important.

Competent defensive big men who shoot 40% from three tend to start in the modern NBA.  Hell, incompetent defensive big men who shoot 40% from three tend to start in the modern NBA.

[flybono]

Your delusional

[chambers]

Your delusional

thanks for your constructive input.
Next time, try some reasoning for an explanation as to why you think this.

'He has a bad haircut' is not a reasonable answer either.
Thankyou, now go away.

[furball]

The worst thing that can ever happen to a player is expectations.  Some people on here saw Kelly's 7 foot body and think he should be banging down low, grabbing boards and blocking shots.  But that is just not how he plays.  If that's what you are looking for him to do (just because he's tall) then you think he sucks.  But if you don't put any expectations on him and watch what he actually does do on the floor you see he's rather good. 

This is the same thing that ran Joe Thornton out of Boston.  Everyone wanted him to be Cam Neely when they saw how big he was.  Banging in front of the net and scoring goals isn't his game.  He's much more Adam Oats than Neely.  (now trading Joe and blowing up that team lead to the rebuild and the Cup but it's not why they got rid of him). 

[liam]

The worst thing that can ever happen to a player is expectations.  Some people on here saw Kelly's 7 foot body and think he should be banging down low, grabbing boards and blocking shots.  But that is just not how he plays.  If that's what you are looking for him to do (just because he's tall) then you think he sucks.  But if you don't put any expectations on him and watch what he actually does do on the floor you see he's rather good. 

This is the same thing that ran Joe Thornton out of Boston.  Everyone wanted him to be Cam Neely when they saw how big he was.  Banging in front of the net and scoring goals isn't his game.  He's much more Adam Oats than Neely.  (now trading Joe and blowing up that team lead to the rebuild and the Cup but it's not why they got rid of him).

Kelly plays hard and is coming off shoulder surgery. He's a smart player who gets very little respect from the refs. He plays hard on both ends of the floor. Coming back from shoulder surgery is a big thing but once he gets his confidence back his scoring will come back. He's also still quite young for a big man. He'll be in the league for 10 years. He's one of the best players from his draft class. He's a team player.

[Celtics4ever]

He only plays 20 minutes a game right now.
Having him on the floor gives us better defense vs the pick and roll and better offense with the floor being spread.
It's his style of play thats so important.

He would play more if it was so dang important.   The issue is that many games he is a no show.  Do you really think CBS and Ainge are conspiring to keep his minutes down, so he won't blossom, that is absurd.

Competent defensive big men who shoot 40% from three tend to start in the modern NBA.  Hell, incompetent defensive big men who shoot 40% from three tend to start in the modern NBA.

And yet he did not when he shot 40% and even when he did the coach went with JJ in the playoffs last year.    KO is either good or too passive with his play.    He is too passive much more often.   Sometimes you can tell he is physically overwhelmed.

If he was so special, why didn't Ainge offer him an extension?   I can't wait to hear the BS answers that you guys will cook up.

Kelly plays hard and is coming off shoulder surgery. He's a smart player who gets very little respect from the refs. He plays hard on both ends of the floor. Coming back from shoulder surgery is a big thing but once he gets his confidence back his scoring will come back. He's also still quite young for a big man. He'll be in the league for 10 years. He's one of the best players from his draft class. He's a team player

I realize that.   But you also have to admit that his confidences wanes like the moon.  As for the refs, slow guys commit fouls because they can't keep up with their man.  I agree, he is one of the better players in his draft class but that was a weak draft.   He is quite young but he also has not shown a great deal of growth.   I like him as a bench guy but fell out of my chair laughing when guys act that he is a starter on a good team.