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So uh... any interest in Carmelo Anthony?
« on: December 25, 2016, 08:33:44 PM »

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I do believe the Knicks aren't going to make that much noise, considering their 3-10 against teams better than .500, and their somewhat puzzling pieces. They should hone in on making sure to build around KP, maybe go after some young players. I think if the Knicks max out or give a nice contract to Rose, that their going to regret it. Their already regretting the Noah contract, but maybe they can find someone to take it on.

So any interest in Carmelo?

I would still like him on this team. He's still a bonafide scorer, and his smooth shooting stroke will only get better in an offense where there's ball movement.

If the Knicks were willing to trade us Carmelo for like Rozier, Bradley, maybe some picks, I wouldn't do the 2017 or try to haggle and avoid the 2018 Nets pick too, but... I think Isaiah Thomas, Carmelo, and Horford is an excellent big 3. We would just need some defenders. I would wonder what the Grizzlies would want for Tony Allen.
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Re: So uh... any interest in Carmelo Anthony?
« Reply #1 on: December 25, 2016, 08:38:29 PM »

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No interest, Anthony plays too much iso-ball and I'm not sure if he can replicate his offensive success that well here in Boston. Also he takes a ton of shots to get to his 22 PPG (almost 20-22 shots each night). Anthony needs the ball to shine and that won't fit with Isaiah Thomas on this team with the ball-handling.

If Anthony can't do it as the alpha in NY, he won't do it here in Boston. IT is a very nice #3 piece on a championship team, but adding Anthony doesn't thread the needle for us as much as people think.

I think Carmelo Anthony will get traded by the Knicks next summer, but it won't be to Boston.

Also I'd rather have Bradley and his two-way play than Carmelo. Bradley is also averaging a solid 19 PPG on offense.
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Re: So uh... any interest in Carmelo Anthony?
« Reply #2 on: December 25, 2016, 08:41:06 PM »

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Quote from: Phantom255x on December 25, 2016, 08:38:29 PM
No interest, Anthony plays too much iso-ball and I'm not sure if he can replicate his offensive success that well here in Boston. Also he takes a ton of shots to get to his 20-25 PPG (almost 20-22 shots each night).

If Anthony can't do it as the alpha in NY, he won't do it here in Boston. IT is a very nice #3 piece on a championship team, but adding Anthony doesn't thread the needle for us as much as people think.

I think Carmelo Anthony will get traded by the Knicks next summer, but it won't be to Boston.

Also I'd rather have Bradley and his two-way play than Carmelo. Bradley is also averaging a solid 19 PPG on offense.

Well the thing is I don't think we need an alpha, or to guy in Steven's system. Everyone contributes in the long run be it scoring, hustling, rebounding, or making the smart play. I didn't like Anthony's incessant iso, especially on the last play, but I believe he'll still excel as an scorer, especially with better looks caused by Thomas or Horford.

I find it interesting that a lot of players, people advocated trading for, all ended up doing a lot better under Stevens.

Would you take Anthony if he was relatively going out for cheap, and if so what would you offer? Just curious, because I don't see the Knicks resigning Rose. They might have to literally rebuild and recoup whatever losses they can get. The Knicks aren't a contender.
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Re: So uh... any interest in Carmelo Anthony?
« Reply #3 on: December 25, 2016, 09:07:20 PM »

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Not sure he would be a willing role player and share the glory to get a ring?
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« Reply #4 on: December 25, 2016, 09:27:39 PM »

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At first I was like heck no to Melo.. But after some thought.. I think it would be awesome to have Brown learn from Him... I would not include Bradley but instead Crowder.. 
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« Reply #5 on: December 25, 2016, 09:29:57 PM »

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Quote from: chiken Green on December 25, 2016, 09:27:39 PM
At first I was like heck no to Melo.. But after some thought.. I think it would be awesome to have Brown learn from Him... I would not include Bradley but instead Crowder.. 

What if they wanted Brown instead?
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Re: So uh... any interest in Carmelo Anthony?
« Reply #6 on: December 25, 2016, 10:38:46 PM »

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Quote from: Monkhouse on December 25, 2016, 08:41:06 PM
Quote from: Phantom255x on December 25, 2016, 08:38:29 PM
No interest, Anthony plays too much iso-ball and I'm not sure if he can replicate his offensive success that well here in Boston. Also he takes a ton of shots to get to his 20-25 PPG (almost 20-22 shots each night).

If Anthony can't do it as the alpha in NY, he won't do it here in Boston. IT is a very nice #3 piece on a championship team, but adding Anthony doesn't thread the needle for us as much as people think.

I think Carmelo Anthony will get traded by the Knicks next summer, but it won't be to Boston.

Also I'd rather have Bradley and his two-way play than Carmelo. Bradley is also averaging a solid 19 PPG on offense.

Well the thing is I don't think we need an alpha, or to guy in Steven's system. Everyone contributes in the long run be it scoring, hustling, rebounding, or making the smart play. I didn't like Anthony's incessant iso, especially on the last play, but I believe he'll still excel as an scorer, especially with better looks caused by Thomas or Horford.

I find it interesting that a lot of players, people advocated trading for, all ended up doing a lot better under Stevens.

Would you take Anthony if he was relatively going out for cheap, and if so what would you offer? Just curious, because I don't see the Knicks resigning Rose. They might have to literally rebuild and recoup whatever losses they can get. The Knicks aren't a contender.
While I wholeheartedly disagree with the notion of Melo as our go-to guy, I think it is a necessity in today's NBA to have a guy to rely on down the stretch. Isaiah has done a good job so far, but at 5'9 he can be slowed down at times. Acquiring a legit scorer like PG13 or Cousins would provide us with a guy to carry us down the stretch and a person to rely on when the rest of the team goes cold.
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« Reply #7 on: December 25, 2016, 10:44:59 PM »

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What if they wanted Brown instead?
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Re: So uh... any interest in Carmelo Anthony?
« Reply #8 on: December 25, 2016, 11:35:34 PM »

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Knicks had an interesting approach this offseason. With it being such a huge market, I think they just wanted to go with big names and be competitive until KP is ready for superstardom. Honestly, they are doing better than I thought they would and I don't think they have any plans on trading Carmelo unless it's for a young star in the making to pair with KP.

But, yes, if he were to come cheap (none of our core pieces or BKN picks), then I could go for it. However, watching his iso-bs turns me off quite a bit.
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« Reply #9 on: December 26, 2016, 12:33:49 AM »

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Quote from: Monkhouse on December 25, 2016, 08:33:44 PM
I do believe the Knicks aren't going to make that much noise, considering their 3-10 against teams better than .500, and their somewhat puzzling pieces. They should hone in on making sure to build around KP, maybe go after some young players. I think if the Knicks max out or give a nice contract to Rose, that their going to regret it. Their already regretting the Noah contract, but maybe they can find someone to take it on.

So any interest in Carmelo?

I would still like him on this team. He's still a bonafide scorer, and his smooth shooting stroke will only get better in an offense where there's ball movement.

If the Knicks were willing to trade us Carmelo for like Rozier, Bradley, maybe some picks, I wouldn't do the 2017 or try to haggle and avoid the 2018 Nets pick too, but... I think Isaiah Thomas, Carmelo, and Horford is an excellent big 3. We would just need some defenders. I would wonder what the Grizzlies would want for Tony Allen.
But the catch 22 is that when you add Carmelo to a team he decreases the ball movement.  So maybe Anthony gets better shots and other guys get less open looks.
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« Reply #10 on: December 26, 2016, 12:56:49 AM »

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ummm.... yup.

All the haters in the world cannot pretend that Carmelo Anthony is not a good player that would help us. A scoring wing makes us dangerous in the playoffs- potentially getting to the Eastern Conf championship.

Problem is: I wouldn't give NY squat for Carmelo.

Hmmm.... this might not work!!!!
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Re: So uh... any interest in Carmelo Anthony?
« Reply #11 on: December 26, 2016, 02:43:19 AM »

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All you guys saying that he couldn't work within our offense because he would be a ball stopper have clearly never watched USA Basketball. Carmelo Anthony thrives as a spot shooter when given that opportunity. This is the same guy that hit I think like 13 3s in one game.

Not only would he thrive in Brad Stevens with all the ball screens and spot up jump shots, but he fits Stevens bill of versatile players with his ability to play both the 3 and the 4.

We need his go-to scoring, he would be an amazing stretch 4 when given the opportunity, and honestly he would be one of the few players outside of Paul George and Demarcus Cousins that would make us a contender in the East. By bringing him in he would also give us a big name to use in FA recruiting.
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« Reply #12 on: December 26, 2016, 04:30:27 AM »

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As long as Melo keeps giving us easy endgames with his iso play and literally throw the game to us, I will be a fan of Melo on the Knicks. Easy win. Thanks Melo.
Seriously, this is Antic. Yes you can win a game because of an iso, but you can't do that during 48mn, defense adapt and stop you when it matter the most.
Thanks again Melo for your 2 iso that give us the win AGAIN.
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« Reply #13 on: December 26, 2016, 06:59:42 AM »

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I wouldn't give up anything of value for him. I would want to keep Avery, Jae, Smart, Olynyk and the lottery picks. Something like Rozier and cap filler. Maybe even Rozier + LAC first.

Melo has gotten old. His defense is the worst it has been in about 7-8 years. He settles for more contested shots now than before. Struggles getting to the basket more than before. More lower percentage shots. Has to take more time than before sizing up people in order to create room for himself which makes him more of a ball-stopper than before. So all those negatives in his game as an old player. All of which lowers his value and is why I wouldn't give up one of the starters, key bench players or lotto picks for him.

Still, I do think Melo could be good as a small ball PF (as noted above). I'd like to see him be more of a 16-19ppg threat than someone trying to get 20-25ppg. I think he can be more of a team player on a better team with a spaced out offense. I think the spaced out offense is key because Melo needs that extra room on offense to help him get more space vs his defender which he can no longer create as frequently as before.
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« Reply #14 on: December 26, 2016, 07:52:38 AM »

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Quote from: alewilliam789 on December 26, 2016, 02:43:19 AM
All you guys saying that he couldn't work within our offense because he would be a ball stopper have clearly never watched USA Basketball. Carmelo Anthony thrives as a spot shooter when given that opportunity. This is the same guy that hit I think like 13 3s in one game.

Not only would he thrive in Brad Stevens with all the ball screens and spot up jump shots, but he fits Stevens bill of versatile players with his ability to play both the 3 and the 4.

We need his go-to scoring, he would be an amazing stretch 4 when given the opportunity, and honestly he would be one of the few players outside of Paul George and Demarcus Cousins that would make us a contender in the East. By bringing him in he would also give us a big name to use in FA recruiting.
If you watched USA basketball then clearly you noticed all the other great players and coaches that Carmelo has respect for and looks at as equals.  The Celtics don't have that.  He's been a ball stopper his whole career and the Celtics aren't the Olympic team.
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