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Re: Celtics (13-10) at Thunder (14-9) Game #24 12/11/16
« Reply #150 on: December 11, 2016, 08:11:04 PM »

Offline MasterEmile

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Smart is being outstanding tonight.

Re: Celtics (13-10) at Thunder (14-9) Game #24 12/11/16
« Reply #151 on: December 11, 2016, 08:11:04 PM »

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Smart has looked quite quick off the dribble tonight.
I also love that finesse move where he scooped the layup before sabonis could block it and the spin move he did. He is getting more creative in his drives
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Re: Celtics (13-10) at Thunder (14-9) Game #24 12/11/16
« Reply #152 on: December 11, 2016, 08:11:09 PM »

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I think if we are shopping a starter it should be Bradley. Guy has completely stagnated after a hot start. Has a lot of value to teams like Utah, Toronto, Cleveland, Charlotte, or any playoff team.
Hes averaging 18 and 8.

He's our third best player.

That's his ceiling.  And I think Marcus, Hortford,  and IT4 are all overall better players.

I also think Brown and Rozier have more potential.

Bradley is best as the fifth starter who is just a spot-up shooter and cutter. He just doesn't have the skillset to handle the ball very much at all. He'd honestly be a perfect fit on Cleveland and/or Golden State where all he would have to worry about is locking down his opponent and hitting the open shot/making backdoor cuts.
Smart and Roz could never average 18 a game. With IT out this is just a bad time to dish on AB. We need him and OKC knows that. They are keying in on him.

Re: Celtics (13-10) at Thunder (14-9) Game #24 12/11/16
« Reply #153 on: December 11, 2016, 08:12:14 PM »

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With IT out the Celtics have played some of the best defense all season in the last three games.

Hopefully they keep it up in the second half.

Re: Celtics (13-10) at Thunder (14-9) Game #24 12/11/16
« Reply #154 on: December 11, 2016, 08:12:26 PM »

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I think if we are shopping a starter it should be Bradley. Guy has completely stagnated after a hot start. Has a lot of value to teams like Utah, Toronto, Cleveland, Charlotte, or any playoff team.
Hes averaging 18 and 8.

He's our third best player.

I understand that, but his defense has regressed and offensively he is essentially limited to pull-ups and spot up buckets. Can't really create with the ball in hands and makes a ridiculous amount of dumb mistakes. We would be better off with adding Smart to the starting lineup because of his versatility as a playmaker
That statement is played on here like a broken record.

AB is one of the few guys that can actually get it going in a game. He hits those pull ups at a very high clip and he's added a nice dribble drive off the curl jumper he has.

He's a top 50 player. Smart and Rozier are probably near top 75 and 100.

But he often disappears in tough games against good playoff teams because they know how to gameplan for him; stop his pull-up. Is he a nice player? Yes, but I think based off the replacement, Smart, we can afford to lose a player like Bradley because we would probably use him to strengthen our frontcourt and Smart would add a much needed playmaker in the first unit besides IT.

Re: Celtics (13-10) at Thunder (14-9) Game #24 12/11/16
« Reply #155 on: December 11, 2016, 08:14:41 PM »

Offline TrueFan

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I think if we are shopping a starter it should be Bradley. Guy has completely stagnated after a hot start. Has a lot of value to teams like Utah, Toronto, Cleveland, Charlotte, or any playoff team.
Hes averaging 18 and 8.

He's our third best player.

I understand that, but his defense has regressed and offensively he is essentially limited to pull-ups and spot up buckets. Can't really create with the ball in hands and makes a ridiculous amount of dumb mistakes. We would be better off with adding Smart to the starting lineup because of his versatility as a playmaker
That statement is played on here like a broken record.

AB is one of the few guys that can actually get it going in a game. He hits those pull ups at a very high clip and he's added a nice dribble drive off the curl jumper he has.

He's a top 50 player. Smart and Rozier are probably near top 75 and 100.

But he often disappears in tough games against good playoff teams because they know how to gameplan for him; stop his pull-up. Is he a nice player? Yes, but I think based off the replacement, Smart, we can afford to lose a player like Bradley because we would probably use him to strengthen our frontcourt and Smart would add a much needed playmaker in the first unit besides IT.
I like Smart too but he's not better then AB. Not yet and until he proves he's better I'm not moving AB.

Smart's biggest flaw is offensive consistency. AB is pretty bland but he gives you similar output every game.

Re: Celtics (13-10) at Thunder (14-9) Game #24 12/11/16
« Reply #156 on: December 11, 2016, 08:15:02 PM »

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I think if we are shopping a starter it should be Bradley. Guy has completely stagnated after a hot start. Has a lot of value to teams like Utah, Toronto, Cleveland, Charlotte, or any playoff team.
Hes averaging 18 and 8.

He's our third best player.

That's his ceiling.  And I think Marcus, Hortford,  and IT4 are all overall better players.

I also think Brown and Rozier have more potential.

Bradley is best as the fifth starter who is just a spot-up shooter and cutter. He just doesn't have the skillset to handle the ball very much at all. He'd honestly be a perfect fit on Cleveland and/or Golden State where all he would have to worry about is locking down his opponent and hitting the open shot/making backdoor cuts.
Smart and Roz could never average 18 a game. With IT out this is just a bad time to dish on AB. We need him and OKC knows that. They are keying in on him.

I'm fine with keeping Bradley, and I think he is a starter on the right contending team. But we need an upgrade at the forward positions if we do keep him to help IT/Smart with the ball-handling. Bradley just can't be trusted to handle the ball as much as he does. He should be utilized like JJ Reddick and Klay Thompson and JR Smith in the offense - always coming off of screens or cutting off the ball.

EDIT - And I think both Smart and Rozier can hit 18 points a game in the right situations if they'd be used as much as Bradley, especially if Smart's shooting picks up.
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Re: Celtics (13-10) at Thunder (14-9) Game #24 12/11/16
« Reply #157 on: December 11, 2016, 08:15:32 PM »

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I'm calling it now, Smart gets triple dub

Re: Celtics (13-10) at Thunder (14-9) Game #24 12/11/16
« Reply #158 on: December 11, 2016, 08:18:57 PM »

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I think if we are shopping a starter it should be Bradley. Guy has completely stagnated after a hot start. Has a lot of value to teams like Utah, Toronto, Cleveland, Charlotte, or any playoff team.
Hes averaging 18 and 8.

He's our third best player.

That's his ceiling.  And I think Marcus, Hortford,  and IT4 are all overall better players.

I also think Brown and Rozier have more potential.

Bradley is best as the fifth starter who is just a spot-up shooter and cutter. He just doesn't have the skillset to handle the ball very much at all. He'd honestly be a perfect fit on Cleveland and/or Golden State where all he would have to worry about is locking down his opponent and hitting the open shot/making backdoor cuts.
Smart and Roz could never average 18 a game. With IT out this is just a bad time to dish on AB. We need him and OKC knows that. They are keying in on him.

I'm fine with keeping Bradley, and I think he is a starter on the right contending team. But we need an upgrade at the forward positions if we do keep him to help IT/Smart with the ball-handling. Bradley just can't be trusted to handle the ball as much as he does. He should be utilized like JJ Reddick and Klay Thompson and JR Smith in the offense - always coming off of screens or cutting off the ball.

EDIT - And I think both Smart and Rozier can hit 18 points a game in the right situations if they'd be used as much as Bradley, especially if Smart's shooting picks up.
Roz has the potential down the road but Smart hasn't shown enough consistency to make me a believer. The last week he's been great so hopefully he keeps moving in that direction but I need to see more.

Re: Celtics (13-10) at Thunder (14-9) Game #24 12/11/16
« Reply #159 on: December 11, 2016, 08:19:02 PM »

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I think if we are shopping a starter it should be Bradley. Guy has completely stagnated after a hot start. Has a lot of value to teams like Utah, Toronto, Cleveland, Charlotte, or any playoff team.
Hes averaging 18 and 8.

He's our third best player.

I understand that, but his defense has regressed and offensively he is essentially limited to pull-ups and spot up buckets. Can't really create with the ball in hands and makes a ridiculous amount of dumb mistakes. We would be better off with adding Smart to the starting lineup because of his versatility as a playmaker
That statement is played on here like a broken record.

AB is one of the few guys that can actually get it going in a game. He hits those pull ups at a very high clip and he's added a nice dribble drive off the curl jumper he has.

He's a top 50 player. Smart and Rozier are probably near top 75 and 100.

But he often disappears in tough games against good playoff teams because they know how to gameplan for him; stop his pull-up. Is he a nice player? Yes, but I think based off the replacement, Smart, we can afford to lose a player like Bradley because we would probably use him to strengthen our frontcourt and Smart would add a much needed playmaker in the first unit besides IT.
I like Smart too but he's not better then AB. Not yet and until he proves he's better I'm not moving AB.

Smart's biggest flaw is offensive consistency. AB is pretty bland but he gives you similar output every game.

Never said that, but Smart's ability to lock down bigger players with his larger size at 6'4", 220 makes him an even better fit at the 2. I also think that we should shop Bradley because he's one of the players that offers more value to playoff teams

Re: Celtics (13-10) at Thunder (14-9) Game #24 12/11/16
« Reply #160 on: December 11, 2016, 08:21:00 PM »

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I think if we are shopping a starter it should be Bradley. Guy has completely stagnated after a hot start. Has a lot of value to teams like Utah, Toronto, Cleveland, Charlotte, or any playoff team.
Hes averaging 18 and 8.

He's our third best player.

I understand that, but his defense has regressed and offensively he is essentially limited to pull-ups and spot up buckets. Can't really create with the ball in hands and makes a ridiculous amount of dumb mistakes. We would be better off with adding Smart to the starting lineup because of his versatility as a playmaker
That statement is played on here like a broken record.

AB is one of the few guys that can actually get it going in a game. He hits those pull ups at a very high clip and he's added a nice dribble drive off the curl jumper he has.

He's a top 50 player. Smart and Rozier are probably near top 75 and 100.

But he often disappears in tough games against good playoff teams because they know how to gameplan for him; stop his pull-up. Is he a nice player? Yes, but I think based off the replacement, Smart, we can afford to lose a player like Bradley because we would probably use him to strengthen our frontcourt and Smart would add a much needed playmaker in the first unit besides IT.
I like Smart too but he's not better then AB. Not yet and until he proves he's better I'm not moving AB.

Smart's biggest flaw is offensive consistency. AB is pretty bland but he gives you similar output every game.

Never said that, but Smart's ability to lock down bigger players with his larger size at 6'4", 220 makes him an even better fit at the 2. I also think that we should shop Bradley because he's one of the players that offers more value to playoff teams
give me a trade involving AB.

Re: Celtics (13-10) at Thunder (14-9) Game #24 12/11/16
« Reply #161 on: December 11, 2016, 08:21:26 PM »

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Wow sabonis looking good this game now can't lie.

Re: Celtics (13-10) at Thunder (14-9) Game #24 12/11/16
« Reply #162 on: December 11, 2016, 08:21:57 PM »

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Re: Celtics (13-10) at Thunder (14-9) Game #24 12/11/16
« Reply #163 on: December 11, 2016, 08:22:56 PM »

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Get Horford more shots!

Re: Celtics (13-10) at Thunder (14-9) Game #24 12/11/16
« Reply #164 on: December 11, 2016, 08:23:35 PM »

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I think if we are shopping a starter it should be Bradley. Guy has completely stagnated after a hot start. Has a lot of value to teams like Utah, Toronto, Cleveland, Charlotte, or any playoff team.
Hes averaging 18 and 8.

He's our third best player.

I understand that, but his defense has regressed and offensively he is essentially limited to pull-ups and spot up buckets. Can't really create with the ball in hands and makes a ridiculous amount of dumb mistakes. We would be better off with adding Smart to the starting lineup because of his versatility as a playmaker
That statement is played on here like a broken record.

AB is one of the few guys that can actually get it going in a game. He hits those pull ups at a very high clip and he's added a nice dribble drive off the curl jumper he has.

He's a top 50 player. Smart and Rozier are probably near top 75 and 100.

But he often disappears in tough games against good playoff teams because they know how to gameplan for him; stop his pull-up. Is he a nice player? Yes, but I think based off the replacement, Smart, we can afford to lose a player like Bradley because we would probably use him to strengthen our frontcourt and Smart would add a much needed playmaker in the first unit besides IT.
I like Smart too but he's not better then AB. Not yet and until he proves he's better I'm not moving AB.

Smart's biggest flaw is offensive consistency. AB is pretty bland but he gives you similar output every game.

Never said that, but Smart's ability to lock down bigger players with his larger size at 6'4", 220 makes him an even better fit at the 2. I also think that we should shop Bradley because he's one of the players that offers more value to playoff teams
give me a trade involving AB.

Send Bradley, Olynyk, and 2018 Boston 1st and Minnesota Timberwolves 2nd for Derrick Favors and Joel Bolombouy.

Strengthens our frontcourt and gives us a young building block.