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Quote from: BudweiserCeltic on November 15, 2016, 05:54:25 PMNo. It's LeBron being an idiot.This. Always this.
No. It's LeBron being an idiot.
Quote from: RIPRED on November 16, 2016, 10:38:05 AMQuote from: Moranis on November 16, 2016, 09:33:40 AMQuote from: PhoSita on November 16, 2016, 08:56:55 AMHere's the thing - Nobody in this thread is an authority on why LeBron found Phil Jackson's words disrespectful.True, but you can read the quotes from Lebron on that subject. It was clear Lebron took offense to the word posse, which has been used in a derogatory manner for quite awhile. Not necessarily a racist manner, but certainly derogatory. Tom Brady's posse is upset that people think posse is a derogatory word: I'm pretty sure it was used often in the 90s amongst African Americans. White people probably started using it to be cool. I guess we never got the memo it's not cool to say anymore.
Quote from: Moranis on November 16, 2016, 09:33:40 AMQuote from: PhoSita on November 16, 2016, 08:56:55 AMHere's the thing - Nobody in this thread is an authority on why LeBron found Phil Jackson's words disrespectful.True, but you can read the quotes from Lebron on that subject. It was clear Lebron took offense to the word posse, which has been used in a derogatory manner for quite awhile. Not necessarily a racist manner, but certainly derogatory. Tom Brady's posse is upset that people think posse is a derogatory word:
Quote from: PhoSita on November 16, 2016, 08:56:55 AMHere's the thing - Nobody in this thread is an authority on why LeBron found Phil Jackson's words disrespectful.True, but you can read the quotes from Lebron on that subject. It was clear Lebron took offense to the word posse, which has been used in a derogatory manner for quite awhile. Not necessarily a racist manner, but certainly derogatory.
Here's the thing - Nobody in this thread is an authority on why LeBron found Phil Jackson's words disrespectful.
As someone who lived through the 90's, I don't recall the word "posse" being reserved for African-Americans. It's just a word that has been used in several contexts throughout history.
As someone who lived through the 90's, I don't recall the word "posse" being reserved for African-Americans. It's just a word that has been used in several contexts throughout history. I don't remember it being a racially charged word, but maybe other folks had different experiences than I did.
Apparently this is a thing?Quote"You can't hold up the whole team because you and your mom and your posse want to spend an extra night in Cleveland," Jackson said in the ESPN interview .The word "posse" struck a chord with James, who has surrounded himself with childhood friends during his career.Jackson's language also touched a flash point at a time of heightened racial tension in the country."We see the success that we have, but then there is always someone that lets you know how far we still have to go as African-Americans," James said Tuesday following the Cavaliers' morning shootaround. "I don't believe that Phil Jackson would have used that term if he was doing business with someone else and working with another team or if he was working with anybody in sports that was owning a team that wasn't African-American and had a group of guys around them that didn't agree with what they did.This is the first time I've heard it suggested that "posse" is somehow exclusive to blacks, and has derogatory connotations.
"You can't hold up the whole team because you and your mom and your posse want to spend an extra night in Cleveland," Jackson said in the ESPN interview .The word "posse" struck a chord with James, who has surrounded himself with childhood friends during his career.Jackson's language also touched a flash point at a time of heightened racial tension in the country."We see the success that we have, but then there is always someone that lets you know how far we still have to go as African-Americans," James said Tuesday following the Cavaliers' morning shootaround. "I don't believe that Phil Jackson would have used that term if he was doing business with someone else and working with another team or if he was working with anybody in sports that was owning a team that wasn't African-American and had a group of guys around them that didn't agree with what they did.