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Re: Curry: "not going to sacrifice anything" after adding KD
« Reply #30 on: September 06, 2016, 05:28:34 PM »

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I also think green will sacrafice more and be willing enough to do it but only if the refs let him play the Rodman role. He's a guy that needs attention whether good or bad so if the refs don't allow him to have a different set of rules with instigating stuff, grabbing, clutching then I think draymond could hurt chemistry taking more of a back seat.

Re: Curry: "not going to sacrifice anything" after adding KD
« Reply #31 on: September 06, 2016, 05:58:50 PM »

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There gonna be a learning curve.

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Re: Curry: "not going to sacrifice anything" after adding KD
« Reply #32 on: September 06, 2016, 06:01:44 PM »

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I also think green will sacrafice more and be willing enough to do it but only if the refs let him play the Rodman role. He's a guy that needs attention whether good or bad so if the refs don't allow him to have a different set of rules with instigating stuff, grabbing, clutching then I think draymond could hurt chemistry taking more of a back seat.

I kind of think green is heading for an implosion. The crotch stuff in the playoffs was beyond weird. The snap chat and fights this offseason were even more worrisome. Taken in isolation none of the events would be that crazy, but usually a guy repeatedly showing poor judgement like that is going to exhibit it again. I would really be surprised if he doesn't pop off in the locker room at some point next year, considering he did that last year with less mouths to feed on offense.

Re: Curry: "not going to sacrifice anything" after adding KD
« Reply #33 on: September 06, 2016, 06:26:25 PM »

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I also think green will sacrafice more and be willing enough to do it but only if the refs let him play the Rodman role. He's a guy that needs attention whether good or bad so if the refs don't allow him to have a different set of rules with instigating stuff, grabbing, clutching then I think draymond could hurt chemistry taking more of a back seat.

I kind of think green is heading for an implosion. The crotch stuff in the playoffs was beyond weird. The snap chat and fights this offseason were even more worrisome. Taken in isolation none of the events would be that crazy, but usually a guy repeatedly showing poor judgement like that is going to exhibit it again. I would really be surprised if he doesn't pop off in the locker room at some point next year, considering he did that last year with less mouths to feed on offense.

Yeah. You hit the nail on the head. Repeated crotch shots.. there's some strange lack of control. Agreed . Very, very strange. I can't imagine outside of a fight that I'm in danger that overt would hit somebody purposely there. I'm not saying Green is a coward big it's a cowardly move. But , hey you get baby pitchers in baseball beaning a guy on purpose because he hit a homer off him. That's the most cowardly move I sports for me.
 Difference is its just accepted in baseball.

Re: Curry: "not going to sacrifice anything" after adding KD
« Reply #34 on: September 06, 2016, 06:29:25 PM »

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I'll give Steph the same gif I gave Klay:



Those Tom and Jerry toons still teach to this day.

"SOMEONE" is going to have to sacrifice SOMETHING in GSW.

They'd better figure it out before they meet the Celtics' Defense.

Re: Curry: "not going to sacrifice anything" after adding KD
« Reply #35 on: September 06, 2016, 11:00:45 PM »

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The way I see it is that the Warriors (at least initially) are probably going to somewhat resemble a "team USA" type of play.

By that I mean that like Team USA they will look less like a "team" and more like a host of ultra talented individuals each trying to win games with constant hero ball.

The thing is that the sheer quantity of talent alone means that (like Team USA) they are going to win a LOT of games, and they are going to be incredibly difficult to beat. 

However, just like with Team USA, you'll probably find they will have a surprising number of close wins, and won't be dominating teams the way people might expect. 

If there's one thing that concerns me it's defense.  With Bogut and Barnes gone, you're now depending on Curry, Thompson and Durant to defend the perimeter.  Neither of those guys is what I'd consider an especially above average defensive player. Alas neither is really a poor defender either (although I'd describe Durant as a poor one from what I've seen with the eye test).

 But they're going to give teams trouble with their scoring no doubt.  When they shots aren't falling they'll be in trouble.

Re: Curry: "not going to sacrifice anything" after adding KD
« Reply #36 on: September 06, 2016, 11:02:50 PM »

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I also think green will sacrafice more and be willing enough to do it but only if the refs let him play the Rodman role. He's a guy that needs attention whether good or bad so if the refs don't allow him to have a different set of rules with instigating stuff, grabbing, clutching then I think draymond could hurt chemistry taking more of a back seat.

I kind of think green is heading for an implosion. The crotch stuff in the playoffs was beyond weird. The snap chat and fights this offseason were even more worrisome. Taken in isolation none of the events would be that crazy, but usually a guy repeatedly showing poor judgement like that is going to exhibit it again. I would really be surprised if he doesn't pop off in the locker room at some point next year, considering he did that last year with less mouths to feed on offense.

Yeah. You hit the nail on the head. Repeated crotch shots.. there's some strange lack of control. Agreed . Very, very strange. I can't imagine outside of a fight that I'm in danger that overt would hit somebody purposely there. I'm not saying Green is a coward big it's a cowardly move. But , hey you get baby pitchers in baseball beaning a guy on purpose because he hit a homer off him. That's the most cowardly move I sports for me.
 Difference is its just accepted in baseball.

People praise Green so much, but I swear right now he may well be the biggest head case in the NBA.  I'd say it's a close call between Green and JR Smith. 

Those guys are such lost causes mentally that they make Demarcus Cousins look like Bill Russell.

Re: Curry: "not going to sacrifice anything" after adding KD
« Reply #37 on: September 07, 2016, 12:31:02 AM »

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The way I see it is that the Warriors (at least initially) are probably going to somewhat resemble a "team USA" type of play.

By that I mean that like Team USA they will look less like a "team" and more like a host of ultra talented individuals each trying to win games with constant hero ball.

The thing is that the sheer quantity of talent alone means that (like Team USA) they are going to win a LOT of games, and they are going to be incredibly difficult to beat. 

However, just like with Team USA, you'll probably find they will have a surprising number of close wins, and won't be dominating teams the way people might expect. 

If there's one thing that concerns me it's defense.  With Bogut and Barnes gone, you're now depending on Curry, Thompson and Durant to defend the perimeter.  Neither of those guys is what I'd consider an especially above average defensive player. Alas neither is really a poor defender either (although I'd describe Durant as a poor one from what I've seen with the eye test).

 But they're going to give teams trouble with their scoring no doubt.  When they shots aren't falling they'll be in trouble.

Oh yeah, they'll definitely still "out-talent" a lot of teams and rack up wins. But I think they'll struggle against the more elite teams, especially the teams like San Antonio, Boston, and Toronto that fit really well together, play team ball, and also have strong perimeter D, let alone teams like Cleveland that fit a bit better and also have a ton of talent.

And though they have more overall talent, I think their ceiling as an ill-fitting team is actually lower than it was last year. I just don't think that they have the pieces that fit together where the team is greater than the sum of its parts.
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Re: Curry: "not going to sacrifice anything" after adding KD
« Reply #38 on: September 07, 2016, 09:24:31 AM »

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Where is the popcorn?

Durant to take over

Re: Curry: "not going to sacrifice anything" after adding KD
« Reply #39 on: September 07, 2016, 09:27:33 AM »

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 Agreed J Potter.

 Curry could take 2 Less shots per game

 Klay takes 3 less shots per game.

 Green 2 less shots per game.

 That should give Durant around 17 shots per Game. That's where it should be roughly.

 18 For Curry
  17 For Durant
  14 For Thompson
   8 For Draymond

Thats not how it works

KD being KD may choose to launch 30 shots at any given game

Curry and thompson may actually stop passing the ball to him. 

KD will have to take a backseat into the third row of the minivan this time. But he always wants to be the driver

Re: Curry: "not going to sacrifice anything" after adding KD
« Reply #40 on: September 07, 2016, 11:21:32 AM »

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 Agreed J Potter.

 Curry could take 2 Less shots per game

 Klay takes 3 less shots per game.

 Green 2 less shots per game.

 That should give Durant around 17 shots per Game. That's where it should be roughly.

 18 For Curry
  17 For Durant
  14 For Thompson
   8 For Draymond

Thats not how it works

KD being KD may choose to launch 30 shots at any given game

Curry and thompson may actually stop passing the ball to him. 

KD will have to take a backseat into the third row of the minivan this time. But he always wants to be the driver
The other thing you have to account for is time on the court together.  Last year GS had a pace of around 99 or just over 2 possessions per minute and not every possession ends in a shot (GS had 87 FGA's per games, now obviously some of the 12 are foul shots off missed shots and not turnovers, but some are obviously turn overs).  Now I'm sure Curry, Thompson, Durant, and Green aren't going to play all of their time together, but I'd bet they get a pretty good portion with at least 3 if not all 4 on the floor together (I'd guess at least the first 5 minutes every half all 4 are together).  If they play 20 minutes with all 4 and 10 minutes with at least 3, that just aren't that many shots to go around without some of them sacrificing (if not all three).  These comments are just silly.  Every time you have a collection of great players coming together the stats are sacrificed.  It is incredibly rare for it not to happen. 
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Re: Curry: "not going to sacrifice anything" after adding KD
« Reply #41 on: September 07, 2016, 11:56:14 AM »

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I also think green will sacrafice more and be willing enough to do it but only if the refs let him play the Rodman role. He's a guy that needs attention whether good or bad so if the refs don't allow him to have a different set of rules with instigating stuff, grabbing, clutching then I think draymond could hurt chemistry taking more of a back seat.

I kind of think green is heading for an implosion. The crotch stuff in the playoffs was beyond weird. The snap chat and fights this offseason were even more worrisome. Taken in isolation none of the events would be that crazy, but usually a guy repeatedly showing poor judgement like that is going to exhibit it again. I would really be surprised if he doesn't pop off in the locker room at some point next year, considering he did that last year with less mouths to feed on offense.

Yeah. You hit the nail on the head. Repeated crotch shots.. there's some strange lack of control. Agreed . Very, very strange. I can't imagine outside of a fight that I'm in danger that overt would hit somebody purposely there. I'm not saying Green is a coward big it's a cowardly move. But , hey you get baby pitchers in baseball beaning a guy on purpose because he hit a homer off him. That's the most cowardly move I sports for me.
 Difference is its just accepted in baseball.

People praise Green so much, but I swear right now he may well be the biggest head case in the NBA.  I'd say it's a close call between Green and JR Smith. 

Those guys are such lost causes mentally that they make Demarcus Cousins look like Bill Russell.

Took the words right out my mouth. If Green was in Sacramento he'd be regarded as a nuisance and head case . Not worth the trouble. My friend and I argued about the suspension and I'm like, " how many shots to the groin are going to be allowed." " this is perfect just punishment."
Perception has so much to do with what team you are on. I don't like Lebron but after the repeated groin shots I was glad to see there was an enormous punishment. Most likely the loss of a world title.