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Re: Trade for Klay Thompson?
« Reply #15 on: July 20, 2016, 04:45:53 PM »

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Curry's new deal should be epic (as will KD's when he comes due again). I think the Warriors would rather go forward with Draymond than Klay b/c of their need for an inside presence. Wouldn't it be more cost-effective for Golden State to start an Avery Bradley/Marcus Smart at much less $ than Klay?

Avery or Marcus + filler (most likely non Brooklyn picks) for Klay?

This thread really hits home and shows how many of you in this forum live in la-la land. UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES, would Golden state part with Klay Thompson. They won championship last year, fell one game short this year and is the overwhelming favorite to win it next year. As long as Klay is a crucial part of their winning ways (which he is) , He's going to be in a Golden state uniform. The team would absorb and pay the luxury tax before giving him up.

The ONLY , far-fetched , crazy miracle scenario where I see Klay getting traded would be if he tore his ACL or had a horrific injury and he comes back and he's not the same. After a year or 2 then they'd be willing to give up on him. Otherwise. Please get all those pipe dreams out your head and focus on REALISTIC guys we can sign. (cough cough , Lance Stephenson... best 3 out there right now and we're weak at the 3)

Well at least every commenter recognizes that this isn't happening.  It actually seems like a good number of posters do have a reasonable grasp of realities.

Sure, the commenters on this thread, but there are other threads just like this one. Like those who really thought KD was going to sign here or threads where people are trying to make a case and say THIS YEAR Brown will be a superstar. I wasn't insulting everyone. I clearly said  MANY OF YOU. Obviously that doesn't mean all.

no one said that.

also, KD could have legitimately signed here. whats wrong with thinking he would sign here? we were clearly in his top 3, maybe top 2.

Not those exact words but check out threads like "Brown's potential," I think expectations from him are too high. He's only 19. I disagree, Celtics where one of the top 3 who were interested, much in the same way Milwaukee was interested Dwayne Wade. I'm of the opinion that #1 it didn't make basketball sense #2 Just unrealistic. No Top shelf superstar free agent has ever signed here. Horford is actually the best FA signing ever, Him and an old Dominique Wilkins.

Don't get me the wrong way, I was born & raised in Malden, (live in OKC now) I love the Boston Celtics but explain to me from KD's point of view. if you were KD and you REALLY wanted a championship, Give me a logical reason why Boston would be your choice as opposed to Golden State or staying in OKC where he set roots and was 1 game away from beating 2015 champs and making the finals , maybe even beating the cavs this year. Not that i'm a raging pessimist but I'm of the opinion that ... yeah you can have hope but I wouldn't hold my breath or invest any emotion into the possibility of a KD, Stephen Curry, Lebron, Carmelo Anthony type player making the announcement....... "i'm taking my talent to the Boston Celtics"
The logic of KD coming to Boston has been extensively explained on this site. It was never likely, but most reports had us in the top 3.

Re: Trade for Klay Thompson?
« Reply #16 on: July 20, 2016, 04:53:01 PM »

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If I'm shipping out Smart or Bradley, I'd expect a lot more in return than Klay Thompson.

I'm a super huge Smart Fan and I love Bradley to death but if you can land one of the most Elite Shooters of Today's Era who also happens to be an above average defender you have to pull the trigger..

Re: Trade for Klay Thompson?
« Reply #17 on: July 20, 2016, 04:53:08 PM »

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Curry's new deal should be epic (as will KD's when he comes due again). I think the Warriors would rather go forward with Draymond than Klay b/c of their need for an inside presence. Wouldn't it be more cost-effective for Golden State to start an Avery Bradley/Marcus Smart at much less $ than Klay?

Avery or Marcus + filler (most likely non Brooklyn picks) for Klay?

This thread really hits home and shows how many of you in this forum live in la-la land. UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES, would Golden state part with Klay Thompson. They won championship last year, fell one game short this year and is the overwhelming favorite to win it next year. As long as Klay is a crucial part of their winning ways (which he is) , He's going to be in a Golden state uniform. The team would absorb and pay the luxury tax before giving him up.

The ONLY , far-fetched , crazy miracle scenario where I see Klay getting traded would be if he tore his ACL or had a horrific injury and he comes back and he's not the same. After a year or 2 then they'd be willing to give up on him. Otherwise. Please get all those pipe dreams out your head and focus on REALISTIC guys we can sign. (cough cough , Lance Stephenson... best 3 out there right now and we're weak at the 3)

Well at least every commenter recognizes that this isn't happening.  It actually seems like a good number of posters do have a reasonable grasp of realities.

Sure, the commenters on this thread, but there are other threads just like this one. Like those who really thought KD was going to sign here or threads where people are trying to make a case and say THIS YEAR Brown will be a superstar. I wasn't insulting everyone. I clearly said  MANY OF YOU. Obviously that doesn't mean all.

no one said that.

also, KD could have legitimately signed here. whats wrong with thinking he would sign here? we were clearly in his top 3, maybe top 2.

Not those exact words but check out threads like "Brown's potential," I think expectations from him are too high. He's only 19. I disagree, Celtics where one of the top 3 who were interested, much in the same way Milwaukee was interested Dwayne Wade. I'm of the opinion that #1 it didn't make basketball sense #2 Just unrealistic. No Top shelf superstar free agent has ever signed here. Horford is actually the best FA signing ever, Him and an old Dominique Wilkins.

Don't get me the wrong way, I was born & raised in Malden, (live in OKC now) I love the Boston Celtics but explain to me from KD's point of view. if you were KD and you REALLY wanted a championship, Give me a logical reason why Boston would be your choice as opposed to Golden State or staying in OKC where he set roots and was 1 game away from beating 2015 champs and making the finals , maybe even beating the cavs this year. Not that i'm a raging pessimist but I'm of the opinion that ... yeah you can have hope but I wouldn't hold my breath or invest any emotion into the possibility of a KD, Stephen Curry, Lebron, Carmelo Anthony type player making the announcement....... "i'm taking my talent to the Boston Celtics"

sorry i offended you haha.

my thought is that it will ultimately be a challenge for GS to keep 4 guys making $35m+ (judging by Horford contract, this number could be $40m+). long term, is it possible for GS to keep all 4? If so, why doesn't a team put together something similar to the '92 dream team and try to win every year. Current GSW is good, but without any type of spending restriction (and if luxury tax is irrelevant), why shouldn't Lebron recruit Carmelo, Cousins, Harden, and Anthony Davis? That team could be GSW.

LOL LOL , Stop it, i'm not offended. I feel like , i'm the one who's offending at times. I'm not trying to come across as "debbie downer" and be mr. pessimistic but ..... I don't know. The positivity A few folk express in the forum at times amazes me. Despite our history and as I said before , we've never had a top shelf FA sign in Boston, Still have threads like this where people feel like top 5 players in the league will come to Boston. I just don't see it. We need to build as we've always done.
 
 Also young, puppy, 76ers type teams don't win. I'm also opposed to stacking a squad of all young players and forsaking quality veterans. From my observation when a good vet is suggested for discussion , usually it's frowned upon by other posters in favor of A. young unproven player or B. The expectation that we have a legitimate shot at a top FA.

 YEARS ago maybe 2007 or 2008. (can't remember if it was this forum or  another c's forum) when it was rumored perhaps AI would come to Boston. (back when he was still "the answer") I remember getting mauled in the forums. We don't want that headcase, We have Gerald Green, his upside is tremendous, I wouldn't trade him one on one for AI, he's going to be the next T-mac.

Not that i'm rooting against him , but Brown is 19. We very much have a weakness at the 3. I feel our focus needs to be to fill that gap Bring in a Vet and let Brown develop, but the general consensus on this forum seems to be ... A) Stand Pat because next year Superstar X will play here or B) Just wait because some team will be willing to do a ridiculous trade with us. I simply don't think any of those options will benefit the C's

Re: Trade for Klay Thompson?
« Reply #18 on: July 20, 2016, 05:05:40 PM »

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Curry's new deal should be epic (as will KD's when he comes due again). I think the Warriors would rather go forward with Draymond than Klay b/c of their need for an inside presence. Wouldn't it be more cost-effective for Golden State to start an Avery Bradley/Marcus Smart at much less $ than Klay?

Avery or Marcus + filler (most likely non Brooklyn picks) for Klay?

This thread really hits home and shows how many of you in this forum live in la-la land. UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES, would Golden state part with Klay Thompson. They won championship last year, fell one game short this year and is the overwhelming favorite to win it next year. As long as Klay is a crucial part of their winning ways (which he is) , He's going to be in a Golden state uniform. The team would absorb and pay the luxury tax before giving him up.

The ONLY , far-fetched , crazy miracle scenario where I see Klay getting traded would be if he tore his ACL or had a horrific injury and he comes back and he's not the same. After a year or 2 then they'd be willing to give up on him. Otherwise. Please get all those pipe dreams out your head and focus on REALISTIC guys we can sign. (cough cough , Lance Stephenson... best 3 out there right now and we're weak at the 3)

Well at least every commenter recognizes that this isn't happening.  It actually seems like a good number of posters do have a reasonable grasp of realities.

Sure, the commenters on this thread, but there are other threads just like this one. Like those who really thought KD was going to sign here or threads where people are trying to make a case and say THIS YEAR Brown will be a superstar. I wasn't insulting everyone. I clearly said  MANY OF YOU. Obviously that doesn't mean all.

no one said that.

also, KD could have legitimately signed here. whats wrong with thinking he would sign here? we were clearly in his top 3, maybe top 2.

Not those exact words but check out threads like "Brown's potential," I think expectations from him are too high. He's only 19. I disagree, Celtics where one of the top 3 who were interested, much in the same way Milwaukee was interested Dwayne Wade. I'm of the opinion that #1 it didn't make basketball sense #2 Just unrealistic. No Top shelf superstar free agent has ever signed here. Horford is actually the best FA signing ever, Him and an old Dominique Wilkins.

Don't get me the wrong way, I was born & raised in Malden, (live in OKC now) I love the Boston Celtics but explain to me from KD's point of view. if you were KD and you REALLY wanted a championship, Give me a logical reason why Boston would be your choice as opposed to Golden State or staying in OKC where he set roots and was 1 game away from beating 2015 champs and making the finals , maybe even beating the cavs this year. Not that i'm a raging pessimist but I'm of the opinion that ... yeah you can have hope but I wouldn't hold my breath or invest any emotion into the possibility of a KD, Stephen Curry, Lebron, Carmelo Anthony type player making the announcement....... "i'm taking my talent to the Boston Celtics"

sorry i offended you haha.

my thought is that it will ultimately be a challenge for GS to keep 4 guys making $35m+ (judging by Horford contract, this number could be $40m+). long term, is it possible for GS to keep all 4? If so, why doesn't a team put together something similar to the '92 dream team and try to win every year. Current GSW is good, but without any type of spending restriction (and if luxury tax is irrelevant), why shouldn't Lebron recruit Carmelo, Cousins, Harden, and Anthony Davis? That team could be GSW.

LOL LOL , Stop it, i'm not offended. I feel like , i'm the one who's offending at times. I'm not trying to come across as "debbie downer" and be mr. pessimistic but ..... I don't know. The positivity A few folk express in the forum at times amazes me. Despite our history and as I said before , we've never had a top shelf FA sign in Boston, Still have threads like this where people feel like top 5 players in the league will come to Boston. I just don't see it. We need to build as we've always done.
 
 Also young, puppy, 76ers type teams don't win. I'm also opposed to stacking a squad of all young players and forsaking quality veterans. From my observation when a good vet is suggested for discussion , usually it's frowned upon by other posters in favor of A. young unproven player or B. The expectation that we have a legitimate shot at a top FA.

 YEARS ago maybe 2007 or 2008. (can't remember if it was this forum or  another c's forum) when it was rumored perhaps AI would come to Boston. (back when he was still "the answer") I remember getting mauled in the forums. We don't want that headcase, We have Gerald Green, his upside is tremendous, I wouldn't trade him one on one for AI, he's going to be the next T-mac.

Not that i'm rooting against him , but Brown is 19. We very much have a weakness at the 3. I feel our focus needs to be to fill that gap Bring in a Vet and let Brown develop, but the general consensus on this forum seems to be ... A) Stand Pat because next year Superstar X will play here or B) Just wait because some team will be willing to do a ridiculous trade with us. I simply don't think any of those options will benefit the C's
Team needs a superstar to win. We are already a ~50 win team, so every move now must be done with acquiring that superstar in mind. Im all for acquiring a wing who can come in for a year. I am against trading major assets or losing future max cap space to make that happen.

Re: Trade for Klay Thompson?
« Reply #19 on: July 20, 2016, 05:07:08 PM »

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It's hard to argue when the other person is either totally wrong or misrepresenting "history."
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Re: Trade for Klay Thompson?
« Reply #20 on: July 20, 2016, 05:07:18 PM »

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The positivity A few folk express in the forum at times amazes me. Despite our history and as I said before , we've never had a top shelf FA sign in Boston, Still have threads like this where people feel like top 5 players in the league will come to Boston. I just don't see it. We need to build as we've always done.

Are we starting this again?  Horford was the second-best FA to change teams* this year, and he came to Boston.  If that's not a "top shelf FA" than I honestly don't know what is.

Top 5 players in the league generally don't change teams in FA (Durant and Lebron being the exceptions rather than the rule), and when they do, they sign for the max.  Prior to the 2015 off season, the Celtics hadn't had ANY cap space (never mind max cap space) for 20 years.  Signing a big-name FA in that period was literally impossible, so using that for evidence that the Celtics can't sign FAs is pretty disingenuous.

Does this mean I think a big-name FA is a lock to sign in Boston?  Of course not.  Any time a big name FA signs with a new team it's a big deal because it's so rare.  We're one of 30 teams in the NBA, the chances of it happening to us are slim.  But that doesn't mean they aren't there

*Note: I'm only counting FAs that changed teams because 1. most FAs that stay put didn't really consider going elsewhere and 2. the C's have resigned quite a few of their own big-name FAs, so that would throw everything off
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Re: Trade for Klay Thompson?
« Reply #21 on: July 20, 2016, 05:18:04 PM »

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KD to Golden State
Horford to Boston
Howard(?) to Atlanta
Aldridge to San Antonio
Monroe(?) to Milwaukee
Lebron to Cleveland

The two highest profile guys in the last 3 classes have gone to maybe 1 city that is a "better marker" than Boston. The Boston narrative is a bit dumb. Relying on FA is dumb as well. Superstars dont move via FA very often.

Re: Trade for Klay Thompson?
« Reply #22 on: July 20, 2016, 05:21:38 PM »

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The only few players GSW would trade Klay for are already on the team.

Re: Trade for Klay Thompson?
« Reply #23 on: July 20, 2016, 05:46:47 PM »

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If I'm shipping out Smart or Bradley, I'd expect a lot more in return than Klay Thompson.

I'm a super huge Smart Fan and I love Bradley to death but if you can land one of the most Elite Shooters of Today's Era who also happens to be an above average defender you have to pull the trigger..

Just trolling. I'd probably trade both and the BKN 18.
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Re: Trade for Klay Thompson?
« Reply #24 on: July 20, 2016, 05:46:56 PM »

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LeBron could trade Himself to the Warriors for Klay .......

That's about the only trade I can see happening in the next 1-3 years.

Re: Trade for Klay Thompson?
« Reply #25 on: July 20, 2016, 05:55:49 PM »

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Curry's new deal should be epic (as will KD's when he comes due again). I think the Warriors would rather go forward with Draymond than Klay b/c of their need for an inside presence. Wouldn't it be more cost-effective for Golden State to start an Avery Bradley/Marcus Smart at much less $ than Klay?

Avery or Marcus + filler (most likely non Brooklyn picks) for Klay?
No. Not happening. Not in this universe.