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Re: Why does danny seem to have no interest in Wade?
« Reply #15 on: July 06, 2016, 06:17:43 PM »

Offline LarBrd33

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If Stevens doesn't want the iso-ball of Wade, we sure as heck wouldn't be interesting in Westbrook.  Neither makes any sense, but at least with Wade you could get him without giving up any major assets (aside from Amir and Jerebko).
The argument can be made that Russell Westbrook is a superstar. He was an MVP candidate last year. He is in his prime as well.

When you are a GM there is one set of rules for acquiring in prime superstars and a completely different one for non superstars. Westbrook (who I know you think is tremendously overrated) at least seems to have the talent to transcend fit and scheme. Dwayne Wade, at this point in his career, does not. It's a superstar league.

There's absolutely no argument that Westbrook ISN'T a superstar. He's a legit MVP candidate. Of course, that doesn't mean I think we should necessarily take the risk of trading for him without reassurances. I just think it's absolute non-sense that some on here say that a player of Westbrook's caliber isn't a superstar.
An argument can be made that Westbrook is the most overrated player in he NBA and is as much a "superstar" as Rajon Rondo was... in other words - not a superstar.
It would be a very silly argument, but an argument nonetheless...
His level of ballhoggery is unparalleled.   I read that only Kobe Bryant ever had a higher usage rate than Westbrook.  If you're willing to let a guy completely dominate the ball, stats are inevitable.  That's why he's also top 3 in turnovers.  His 29% three point shooting is atrocious.  When not sharing the ball with the greatest offensive player in the league, Westbrook's FG% dropped to 42%.   He jacked up 20+ shots per night while leading his team to a borderline .500 record (they were in the lotto that year).   

When you consider a team like Boston that relies on ball movement and open shots (5th in the league last season in PPG despite being 24th in FG% and 28th in 3p%), I'm not sure how adding another bricklayer like WEstbrook is really going to help.   The team needs someone who can consistently make shots - that aint Westbrook.  They need someone who will share the ball.  That aint Westbrook.   They need elite defenders - Westbrook was below average.  So you'd be benching one of our premiere guard defenders (one of our greatest strengths) to feed minutes into a guy who hurts our defense and hurts our offense.    What this team also needs is someone who can make shots down the line as a go-to scorer - that aint Westbrook.  He's bottom 3 in the league in FG% during the last 10 seconds of the game and Overtime.  He shoots something like 12% during crunch time.   

He's a good player.  I'd definitely call him an all-star.  But if a team thinks they are going to build a team around Westbrook and be successful, they could be setting themselves up for disappointment.  There's a reason why Durant left.  It must have been ungodly frustrating to play with an inferior ball hog hurting the team and inflating his stats when you know you're a top 3 player in the world carrying that team deep into the playoffs every year - while casuals sat around claiming Westbrook was possibly "better".   I would have left too. 

Just wish Durant had gone to a team other than Golden State.  That was shameful.

Re: Why does danny seem to have no interest in Wade?
« Reply #16 on: July 06, 2016, 06:19:22 PM »

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I don't think Ainge has interest in any FA at significant money on a deal of more than 1 year.  He's saving his cap space to make a run at real, younger stars next off-season.  Not a declining mid-30's one like Wade who is regressing in his efficiency on an annual basis now.

If Wade would take a 1 year deal, Ainge would probably be interested.  But he's looking at 2 or 3 years and Ainge isn't going to give up his max cap space next year for Wade.

Re: Why does danny seem to have no interest in Wade?
« Reply #17 on: July 06, 2016, 06:23:14 PM »

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Re: Why does danny seem to have no interest in Wade?
« Reply #18 on: July 06, 2016, 06:25:20 PM »

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To be honest, I won't be shocked if the Thunder win 50+ games next year and Westbrook beats out James Harden and LeBron James to win MVP.

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Re: Why does danny seem to have no interest in Wade?
« Reply #19 on: July 06, 2016, 06:30:19 PM »

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Because a team starting Avery Bradley is a better team than a team starting Dwyane Wade.

That is crazy talk

Because everyone knows he's not really leaving Miami, he's just using other teams as leverage.

That is wise talk


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Re: Why does danny seem to have no interest in Wade?
« Reply #20 on: July 06, 2016, 06:33:01 PM »

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I bet neither side wants the other

Wade doesn't want to come here



And he's a   pos    So we don't want him, ha
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Re: Why does danny seem to have no interest in Wade?
« Reply #21 on: July 06, 2016, 06:34:37 PM »

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Because a team starting Avery Bradley is a better team than a team starting Dwyane Wade.

That is crazy talk

Because everyone knows he's not really leaving Miami, he's just using other teams as leverage.

That is wise talk
wade is probably better right now


But for our team (and the future of our team) we'd be better off with bradley

He has better D and can shoot


We need shooting so badly, and wade would ruin what little we already have
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Re: Why does danny seem to have no interest in Wade?
« Reply #22 on: July 06, 2016, 06:38:08 PM »

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To be honest, I won't be shocked if the Thunder win 50+ games next year and Westbrook beats out James Harden and LeBron James to win MVP.
To be honest, I won't be shocked if the Thunder with 36 games and Westbrook gets exposed.

But there's a chance he's traded and doesn't even play for them next year... so who knows.

Westbrook is a good player.  No doubt he's a good player.  But I'm genuinely not sure if he's better than Damian Lillard.

Re: Why does danny seem to have no interest in Wade?
« Reply #23 on: July 06, 2016, 06:58:53 PM »

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He's 34 and a jerk.  He and Riley deserve each other.  I get he seems like a loyal guy on the surface but he's been in miami his entire career because that's where he belongs.

Re: Why does danny seem to have no interest in Wade?
« Reply #24 on: July 06, 2016, 07:10:11 PM »

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The Heat beat reporter is tweeting that no one is willing to take McRoberts around the league. In order to get someone to take him they would need to attach either the 1. the 2023 first 2. Justice Winslow  or 3. Josh Richardson.

The Heat don't have enough money to sign Wade unless they are able to deal McBob.

If they are considering this Danny should offer cap space and a pick for Winslow and McBob. I'd be shocked if Wade leaves Miami but I'd also be really surprised if the Heat gave up that type of value just to give Wade a few million more.

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Re: Why does danny seem to have no interest in Wade?
« Reply #25 on: July 06, 2016, 07:25:04 PM »

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The Heat beat reporter is tweeting that no one is willing to take McRoberts around the league. In order to get someone to take him they would need to attach either the 1. the 2023 first 2. Justice Winslow  or 3. Josh Richardson.

The Heat don't have enough money to sign Wade unless they are able to deal McBob.

If they are considering this Danny should offer cap space and a pick for Winslow and McBob. I'd be shocked if Wade leaves Miami but I'd also be really surprised if the Heat gave up that type of value just to give Wade a few million more.

If Ainge loves Winslow so much, why not trade Smart for Winslow and McRoberts?
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Re: Why does danny seem to have no interest in Wade?
« Reply #26 on: July 06, 2016, 07:30:05 PM »

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The Heat beat reporter is tweeting that no one is willing to take McRoberts around the league. In order to get someone to take him they would need to attach either the 1. the 2023 first 2. Justice Winslow  or 3. Josh Richardson.

The Heat don't have enough money to sign Wade unless they are able to deal McBob.

If they are considering this Danny should offer cap space and a pick for Winslow and McBob. I'd be shocked if Wade leaves Miami but I'd also be really surprised if the Heat gave up that type of value just to give Wade a few million more.

Is this a hypothetical, or the beat writer's idea? Or are any of the three actually being offered by MIA to take on McBob?
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Re: Why does danny seem to have no interest in Wade?
« Reply #27 on: July 06, 2016, 08:42:57 PM »

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To be honest, I won't be shocked if the Thunder win 50+ games next year and Westbrook beats out James Harden and LeBron James to win MVP.
To be honest, I won't be shocked if the Thunder with 36 games and Westbrook gets exposed.

But there's a chance he's traded and doesn't even play for them next year... so who knows.

Westbrook is a good player.  No doubt he's a good player.  But I'm genuinely not sure if he's better than Damian Lillard.

I wouldn't be shocked if OKC won 36 games despite Westbrook's best efforts.

That squad is looking real weak right now after losing both Ibaka + Durant.

Oladipo hasn't exactly helped the Magic win much so far in his young career. I don't think he is ready to fill Ibaka's shoes. So add a sketchy SG position + both forward positions where OKC now lacks quality.

The only positions where OKC looks good is PG (Westbrook, Payne) and C (Adams, Kanter).

Re: Why does danny seem to have no interest in Wade?
« Reply #28 on: July 06, 2016, 08:46:49 PM »

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Its because Wade and Uncle Drew have something in common. They are both old.

Re: Why does danny seem to have no interest in Wade?
« Reply #29 on: July 06, 2016, 08:47:49 PM »

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Its because Wade and Uncle Drew have something in common. They are both old.

Also, we hate Wade and his punky whiny attitude.