What are the flaws on Brown really?

[mctyson]

He doesn't project to do anything at an NBA level when he enters the league other than finishing in transition.

He may be able to do other things, but there's no way of saying for sure what those things are.

You are going to be very wrong about that.

I sure hope so!

Every 19 year old has a lot to work on to become an NBA-caliber rotation player, let alone a starter, let alone an All-Star.  I do not deny he has much to improve on.

But he gives us something immediately that we don't have and haven't had arguably since a younger Pierce, or Jeff Green on a good day.  He is a ferocious attacker of the paint who plays above the rim.  We need that badly.

[flybono]

Not being traded to Philly for Oak or Noel

Undersized big who cannot shoot or make foul shots. Perfect example why the pick should have been packaged for a Vet.

Can he develop? Yes, but how long do you wait

[Dino Pitino]

Having watch all but about 3 Cal games last year I can say many of the concerns that people have are legit. But there are a couple of things here. First, having seen him in HS a few times, I dont think his Cal experience was totally reflective of what he will be. Yes, at Cal, Jaylen did turn the ball over alot trying to do too much or by going too fast but the assist to turnover ratio issue is skewed. Spacing, personnel, and style of play added alot to this. The thing I never understood about Cal was why they never really played Rabb in the high post or really facing the basket. This ultimately created little movement on the floor. I think this put Jaylen in a position where he was trying to do too much leading to him being wild at times. I think being in Boston helps him a great deal in that he doesnt have to come in and be the MAN although the Boos on draft night could put pressure on him.

Lastly, when I look at Jaylen I see a guy who could be a top 20 player in this league if he ever learns the two dribble pull up and can knock it down. His game is much more old school in that he can post up a little bit, will fight for O boards like a big, etc. Think like early 90s basketball. A two dribble pull up or a crossover to create space to a pull up could make this guy dangerous.

I have been excited about this guy for well over a year. By no means do I feel like I know how he will turn out but, this guy has a real chance based on what I have seen over the last year.

You're probably in the top 3 or top 5 on this board of people who've seen the most of Brown, so can you post, like, everything you remember?

[meangreenmachine]

It sounds like he has the potential to be the next MKG or Leonard. That would be great, particularly the latter. It is going to take 3-5 years for further clarity, I would imagine. That is the problem with even high lottery picks.

For those of you who doubt Brown: How would you like to be a Sixers fan after seeing Brown's job on Simmons? Unlike Brown, Simmons is supposed to be the franchise savior.

[tarheelsxxiii]

He isn't a basketball player yet and hasn't proven that he genuinely wants to be one.

I still have high hopes for him, but passing on Dunn was a mistake that will come to haunt us.

[Ilikesports17]

He isn't a basketball player yet and hasn't proven that he genuinely wants to be one.

I still have high hopes for him, but passing on Dunn was a mistake that will come to haunt us.

Perhaps it was the predraft propaganda machine, but literally everything I've read about his work ethic has been overwhelmingly positive. Jimmy Butler raved about it. He claims to be up at 530 working on his game.

He's shown his desire to be a basketball player as much as anyone in his class.

[tarheelsxxiii]

He isn't a basketball player yet and hasn't proven that he genuinely wants to be one.

I still have high hopes for him, but passing on Dunn was a mistake that will come to haunt us.

Perhaps it was the predraft propaganda machine, but literally everything I've read about his work ethic has been overwhelmingly positive. Jimmy Butler raved about it. He claims to be up at 530 working on his game.

He's shown his desire to be a basketball player as much as anyone in his class.

That's good, I respect that. Work hard at your craft. But that doesn't change the fact that he's a fine athlete that sucks at basketball... like the majority of Ainge's picks. I'm tired of it.

[walker834]

I admit he seems a bit high for a #3 pick but the draft is becoming more and more that way.  Still I think he can play basketball.  Amazing some of these players that come into the league and can't even dribble or play like basketball players.  At least jaylen can do some of that .  He looks like he has a pretty good game.

I was surprised his first summer league, I was expecting him to be one of those projects that just stands there and shoots and misses the way he was being described and dunks every so often.  He seems to have an actual game but might take some time.

I don't think you get to the line that much unless you can play in some regard. 

[Denis998]

he is too perfect.

[Surferdad]

It sounds like he has the potential to be the next MKG or Leonard. That would be great, particularly the latter. It is going to take 3-5 years for further clarity, I would imagine. That is the problem with even high lottery picks.

For those of you who doubt Brown: How would you like to be a Sixers fan after seeing Brown's job on Simmons? Unlike Brown, Simmons is supposed to be the franchise savior.

I would hope sixers fans are not discouraged after one SL matchup.  As happy as I was as a Celtics fan to see Brown compete favorably with Simmons, I firmly believe Simmons is going to be an outstanding player and perhaps a franchise cornerstone.

[Bobshot]

Any kid who tries to jump thru the roof over 3 guys in his first D league game and then gets his knee banged up--needs some coaching. The Celtics are not about showtime-ESPN highlights.

Brown needs to work on his shooting and stay closer to the floor going to the basket.

[Denis998]

Any kid who tries to jump thru the roof over 3 guys in his first D league game and then gets his knee banged up--needs some coaching. The Celtics are not about showtime-ESPN highlights.

Brown needs to work on his shooting and stay closer to the floor going to the basket.

He did not get hurt on the dunk attempt. He got hurt because one of the philly players rolled into his knee.

[footey]

Look forward to the game today.  Will be fun to see us at full strength.  I know it doesn't translate well into the NBA, but I love watching summer league games.  Especially when we have so many young, promising players on our team.

[Surferdad]

Look forward to the game today.  Will be fun to see us at full strength.  I know it doesn't translate well into the NBA, but I love watching summer league games.  Especially when we have so many young, promising players on our team.

I love it too, even with all its flaws.  As a spectator it takes some effort to both watch and be able to discern whether any given players' game translates to the NBA with its bigger bodies and better players.

[BDeCosta26]

He isn't a basketball player yet and hasn't proven that he genuinely wants to be one.

I still have high hopes for him, but passing on Dunn was a mistake that will come to haunt us.

Perhaps it was the predraft propaganda machine, but literally everything I've read about his work ethic has been overwhelmingly positive. Jimmy Butler raved about it. He claims to be up at 530 working on his game.

He's shown his desire to be a basketball player as much as anyone in his class.

That's good, I respect that. Work hard at your craft. But that doesn't change the fact that he's a fine athlete that sucks at basketball... like the majority of Ainge's picks. I'm tired of it.

What in the world makes you think he sucks at basketball?

By all accounts, he's a very knowledgeable player who works very hard on all aspects of the game, mentally and physically.

If there's one thing Brown has proven in his VERY short time here, it's that he certainly isn't lacking in IQ, desire or work ethic. He's 19. The basic skill set Is there. He just needs to adjust to the NBA game.

He's not 2005 Gerald Green. After LB33's super positivity around the Durant sage, I think TH and Coach Bo need to become the co-captains of the Fellowship of the Miserable.