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This was "Not" a Win-Now Draft
« on: June 24, 2016, 11:06:34 AM »

Offline rutzan

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We will not know how good this draft is for years...that is the bottom-line truth...that is where i think the problem lies for most people...i guess the caveat is FA but i wouldnt hold your breath...i think another issue is the inconsistency between last year's approach and this year's approach...last year was swing for the fences and trade up vs basically trading down ala belichik...i know different circumstances can dictate different responses but a radical shift from last year is confusing people...i think anothink another mistake is thinking players drafted much lower should somehow mysteriously have been lottery or 1st round talents...we may improve incremently but we are fated to waiting for bkn pick next year and do this all over again which begs the question...is it just luck?
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Re: This was "Not" a Win-Now Draft
« Reply #1 on: June 24, 2016, 11:36:43 AM »

Offline CelticSooner

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I wish the organization would just come out and say it's going be a while. No big trades or no free agents this time around. Draft picks don't see to be valued the same anymore. The NBA is heavily flawed and takes too much luck.
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Re: This was "Not" a Win-Now Draft
« Reply #2 on: June 24, 2016, 11:45:14 AM »

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This is what I don't understand about some fans. Ainge and Wyc have said these things all along. They said all these things when they signed Ainge and Stevens to extensions.  Ainge and Wyc have always said that they would do something big if they could that would make them a champsionship team, and explore a lot of scenarios but aren't going to make bad deals and are in this for the long haul.  Ainge also said Brown is a player for now and the future.  It is a win now draft and it's for the future too.

Yet fans still want to get upset when they don't even listen to what Ainge or Wyc or Stevens says.  STevens even said he really liked Brown and felt he would be a great fit here before they drafted him.  So did other people within the organization.
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« Reply #3 on: June 24, 2016, 11:55:27 AM »

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I really liked Brown myself but listen to fans too much myself sometimes trying for fireworks. I think it's more fans who expect this than anything.  Ainge made us a faster more athletic team.  If that's not improving and tryign to win now I don't know what is.  We lacked a lot of that i felt in the playoffs last year.  People were complaining about our shooting but I felt Jerebko was not the answer for us.  He did an admirable job but Sully went out and we really lacked that extra punch.
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Re: This was "Not" a Win-Now Draft
« Reply #4 on: June 24, 2016, 12:08:23 PM »

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What does a person need to say when HISTORY shows you all you need to know? It is documented that rebuilds take years for a team to pull themselves out of, 08/LBJ teams are an exception not the norm. Whose fault is it that some people can't accept that it's not as simple as a snap of the fingers (fantasy sports)?
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Re: This was "Not" a Win-Now Draft
« Reply #5 on: June 24, 2016, 12:14:52 PM »

Offline PaulAllen

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There is no such thing as a "win now draft"
drafts are never a sure thing except maybe Lebron..
The only win now draft is making a trade for an established player
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« Reply #6 on: June 24, 2016, 12:39:12 PM »

Offline myselfonline

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I can't blame the fans to expect fireworks when that's what we were promised.

However, given our situation, with the team winning, I don't think it's reasonable to expect the same results as the KG and Ray Allen trades. We traded a lot of mediocre pieces for two elite players. We don't have that many mediocre pieces anymore, we have a group of contributors.

IT, Bradley, Smart, and Crowder. Are we willing to part with 2 of these guys along with the #3 pick (along with other 1st round picks) for a Butler? Let alone a Noel or a Okafor. That was the going rate for these players, and it was very reasonable for Danny to decline.

There were a lot of movement during draft night from other teams, however, none of those were win-now moves.


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Re: This was "Not" a Win-Now Draft
« Reply #7 on: June 24, 2016, 12:48:13 PM »

Offline SHAQATTACK

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2008 was a long time ago.

And we still have no decent front court players to put out on the court .

Just a huge team of of short scrubs .

Fans should be calling the Celtic organization out for last nights melt down in brain function.

I'm not sure anybody knows what last nights logic was.

Chance to score big front court players for a guard that can t shoot.
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« Reply #8 on: June 24, 2016, 12:56:45 PM »

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Fans want a miracle. They want everything right now. People were saying the Celtics rebuild was unexpectedly fast. It seem to make people think that the next step is championship. The important thing in rebuilding is making progress, and we did, we made progress and its faster than expecte.
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« Reply #9 on: June 24, 2016, 01:01:16 PM »

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Quote from: RockinRyA on June 24, 2016, 12:56:45 PM
Fans want a miracle. They want everything right now. People were saying the Celtics rebuild was unexpectedly fast. It seem to make people think that the next step is championship. The important thing in rebuilding is making progress, and we did, we made progress and its faster than expecte.

the C's are were in the picture for KD.   

all we had to do was make a fair trade for a vet last night. 

instead we drafted a project at #3 who plays the same position as KD, and punted on competing for 18. 
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« Reply #10 on: June 24, 2016, 01:02:45 PM »

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Quote from: D Dub on June 24, 2016, 01:01:16 PM
Quote from: RockinRyA on June 24, 2016, 12:56:45 PM
Fans want a miracle. They want everything right now. People were saying the Celtics rebuild was unexpectedly fast. It seem to make people think that the next step is championship. The important thing in rebuilding is making progress, and we did, we made progress and its faster than expecte.

the C's are were in the picture for KD.   

all we had to do was make a fair trade for a vet last night. 

instead we drafted a project at #3 who plays the same position as KD, and punted on competing for 18.

Woah, any source on us being out of the running for KD, or just more pessimistic speculation?
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Re: This was "Not" a Win-Now Draft
« Reply #11 on: June 24, 2016, 01:21:24 PM »

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Quote from: BitterJim on June 24, 2016, 01:02:45 PM
Quote from: D Dub on June 24, 2016, 01:01:16 PM
Quote from: RockinRyA on June 24, 2016, 12:56:45 PM
Fans want a miracle. They want everything right now. People were saying the Celtics rebuild was unexpectedly fast. It seem to make people think that the next step is championship. The important thing in rebuilding is making progress, and we did, we made progress and its faster than expecte.

the C's are were in the picture for KD.   

all we had to do was make a fair trade for a vet last night. 

instead we drafted a project at #3 who plays the same position as KD, and punted on competing for 18.

Woah, any source on us being out of the running for KD, or just more pessimistic speculation?

Just speculation, unless they have a link of Durant crossing the Celtics off the list.
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« Reply #12 on: June 24, 2016, 01:27:11 PM »

Offline Eja117

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It wasn't but it was a get better now draft. That didn't happen.
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« Reply #13 on: June 24, 2016, 01:27:32 PM »

Offline Rondo9

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Quote from: eja117 on June 24, 2016, 01:27:11 PM
It wasn't but it was a get better now draft. That didn't happen.

They did.
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« Reply #14 on: June 24, 2016, 01:28:01 PM »

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Quote from: Rondo9 on June 24, 2016, 01:21:24 PM
Quote from: BitterJim on June 24, 2016, 01:02:45 PM
Quote from: D Dub on June 24, 2016, 01:01:16 PM
Quote from: RockinRyA on June 24, 2016, 12:56:45 PM
Fans want a miracle. They want everything right now. People were saying the Celtics rebuild was unexpectedly fast. It seem to make people think that the next step is championship. The important thing in rebuilding is making progress, and we did, we made progress and its faster than expecte.

the C's are were in the picture for KD.   

all we had to do was make a fair trade for a vet last night. 

instead we drafted a project at #3 who plays the same position as KD, and punted on competing for 18.

Woah, any source on us being out of the running for KD, or just more pessimistic speculation?

Just speculation, unless they have a link of Durant crossing the Celtics off the list.
That's provided the Celtics were on any real list to begin with.
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