Who DON'T you want? The HATE thread!

[jambr380]

Barnes - don't waste any money on him.

Danny -  if he blows this draft with similar first round losers that he has drafted in the past: Jeff Green, J. R. Giddens, MarShon Brooks,  Fab Melo, Lucas Nogueira & James Young.

The book is still out on Hunter & Rozier.

What? Green was traded for Ray Allen. He was also the gift that keeps on giving as we are receiving a likely lottery pick from Mem in 19/20. Also, Nogueira was traded with two 2nds for KO on draft night - I know he isn't Giannis or Gobert, but he was still a good selection. Even Brooks was immediately traded for Jajuan Johnson and a 2nd (doesn't help my case, I know).

Draft: Chriss
FA: Ezeli
Trade: Ummmm, I think I could convince myself to like anybody here. I'm a sucker for perceived improvement.

[LarBrd33]

I genuinely don't care who we draft.  I always think it's funny when fans boo over the guy they take.  Bottom line is, I respect Ainge's staff to know way more about these prospects than I do.  I'm nervous about some of the Seniors, because recent history seems to show their stats get inflated the longer they stay in the amateurs, but if our pick ends up being Buddy Hield, I'll trust Ainge knows what he's doing and i'll be excited to see what he does on the next level.

LIkewise, if we trade the pick for an established player, I trust it will because the guy we are getting was the best possible guy we could get.   I'm not stressing it at all.

[CoachBo]

Seems fairly clear at this point that they're going to move Heaven and Earth to trade the pick, which is precisely what I want them to do, so with the Euromistake off the table, I feel fine with whatever happens.

[indeedproceed]

Love, Barnes.

[Timdawgg]

No to Chriss or Brown in the draft

No to Hayward or Okafor if it involves the 3rd pick.

No To Barnes, Ezeli as a free agent.

[wiley]

I genuinely don't care who we draft.  I always think it's funny when fans boo over the guy they take.  Bottom line is, I respect Ainge's staff to know way more about these prospects than I do.  I'm nervous about some of the Seniors, because recent history seems to show their stats get inflated the longer they stay in the amateurs, but if our pick ends up being Buddy Hield, I'll trust Ainge knows what he's doing and i'll be excited to see what he does on the next level.

LIkewise, if we trade the pick for an established player, I trust it will because the guy we are getting was the best possible guy we could get.   I'm not stressing it at all.

What?  You spent 2 months booing Rozier. 

[Quetzalcoatl]

No to Brown and I don't want to draft Hield at 3, although I think he'll be serviceable. 

[tenn_smoothie]

No Love - disappears in big games

No Cousins - cancerous head case

No Lakers Russell - bad for locker room

No Horford - too much $$$$ for too much age

No Howard - head case who is a loser

Absolutely no Melo - head case, loser, selfish, old

[trickybilly]

Good steady hate for Barnes, but he does remind me of Harden, could break out and become elite with more opportunities. But, yeah, no to Barnes. THnx

[crimson_stallion]

* Okafor - he's a useless oaf
* Murray - he looks like Derek Fisher minus the defense and will be lucky to ever start
* Chriss - looks like an immature tweener who has Jeff Green / Michael Beasley written all over him

Prefer not to get Bender, but I wouldn't HATE it the way I would hate the above three options.

[Alleyoopster]

I genuinely don't care who we draft.  I always think it's funny when fans boo over the guy they take.  Bottom line is, I respect Ainge's staff to know way more about these prospects than I do.  I'm nervous about some of the Seniors, because recent history seems to show their stats get inflated the longer they stay in the amateurs, but if our pick ends up being Buddy Hield, I'll trust Ainge knows what he's doing and i'll be excited to see what he does on the next level.

LIkewise, if we trade the pick for an established player, I trust it will because the guy we are getting was the best possible guy we could get.   I'm not stressing it at all.

TP  Most everyone, myself included, is getting all worked up over this draft. Everything will work out fine. Danny's not going to sell the farm just to make a trade. Any of the players we've been talking about including Bender, Brown, Heild, Murray, Dunn will make a positive contribution if drafted by the Celtics.

[Celtics4ever]

TP  Most everyone, myself included, is getting all worked up over this draft. Everything will work out fine. Danny's not going to sell the farm just to make a trade. Any of the players we've been talking about including Bender, Brown, Heild, Murray, Dunn will make a positive contribution if drafted by the Celtics.

Check this out:

All that holding true, while the No. 3 overall pick in the draft could potentially yield a player of significant value, history is littered with players who didn’t pan out. High-level, proven free agents are worth their weight in gold. With Brandon Ingram and Ben Simmons all but guaranteed to go with the top two picks, Boston ownership is staring at a number of unproven players at No. 3.

It’s worth noting how atrocious the Celtics have been for years at drafting, despite the team’s recent success. Since 2012, only Marcus Smart and Jared Sullinger have proven serviceable, while players like Terry Rozier, Jordan Mickey, James Young and Fab Melo have largely been crestfallen, if not disgorged. Peel back further and you’ll find a franchise haunted by the names Joseph Forte, Kedrick Brown, (both selected by Ainge’s predecessor, Chris Wallace) and J.R. Giddens, who, to be fair, was the final player taken in the first round in 2008, days after the Celtics won their last championship.

Every team in every sport makes mistakes in the draft; it’s illogical to assume any franchise will objectively make the soundest decision every time they’re put on a disquieting clock. However, Boston’s streak of draft miscues can’t be divorced from the equation, nor should it.


As shown, while 45 percent of players taken since 2006 have washed out of the league, 52.2 percent of the Celtics’ picks are no longer active in the NBA. Additionally, while 19.7 percent of selections over that stretch have turned into starters, Boston has had such luck on just 8.7 percent of its selections.

That Boston has been woefully unsuccessful in the draft recently only heightens the oft–reported notion that the Celtics are interested in dealing some of their assets to chase a marquee player. In just the past few weeks, the team has been linked to trade rumors for players like Jimmy Butler, Kevin Durant, Kevin Love and Jahlil Okafor. All of these players, by the way, are worth chasing.

Should the aforementioned players — Butler, Durant, Love and Okafor — be available on the market, and should the pot be sweet enough, Boston should absolutely make a move to package picks and players to land one of them, if not two. As ESPN’s Chris Forsberg has noted, the Celtics could realistically target two max-level free agents this offseason. Either way, though, Boston needs to deal this pick.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fancy-stats/wp/2016/06/22/celtics-best-bet-would-be-to-trade-the-no-3-overall-pick-in-the-2016-nba-draft/


We don't have a great track record at drafting recently.

[Casperian]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fancy-stats/wp/2016/06/22/celtics-best-bet-would-be-to-trade-the-no-3-overall-pick-in-the-2016-nba-draft/


We don't have a great track record at drafting recently.

You think that article intentionally picked 2006 as the cut off point? Because, you know, we competed for a championship half of the time. I'd say 52.2% compared to a league average of 45% is pretty good when you pick at the end of the draft, don't you think?

[TheSundanceKid]

I really don't want Jamaal Murray. Defensively he's going to be abused and I don't think he has the offensive talent in game to make up for it. He'll find a place in the league but he isn't a guy you can build a contender around. I think he ends up being a better JR Smith, a complementary piece that can shoot you into games but you wouldn't trust to be defending at the end of the game

[mmmmm]

Check this out:

As shown, while 45 percent of players taken since 2006 have washed out of the league, 52.2 percent of the Celtics’ picks are no longer active in the NBA. Additionally, while 19.7 percent of selections over that stretch have turned into starters, Boston has had such luck on just 8.7 percent of its selections.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fancy-stats/wp/2016/06/22/celtics-best-bet-would-be-to-trade-the-no-3-overall-pick-in-the-2016-nba-draft/


We don't have a great track record at drafting recently.

What an absolutely stupid, ignorant assertion.  What a pathetic misuse of stats.

That article completely forgets to mention that for the Celtics have not only been in the playoffs in all but two of the seasons in that span, but they've gone _deep_ in the playoffs in 5 of those years.

As a result, the Celtics have been drafting mainly in the latter half of the first round or later in almost every draft during that span.

And the fact is, draft picks taken outside the lottery overwhelming wash out at a MUCH MUCH higher rate!

It makes absolutely NO sense other than to troll folks to compare overall washout rates without considering where the picks were made.   It looks like he successfully trolled.