Kris Dunn: "Would be unbelievable to be selected by the Celtics"

[RockinRyA]

I like Dunn and like his potential, but his weaknesses reminds me a lot of a lottery bust we already have on our roster.

I have no idea who you are referring too.

The only playerI can think of is Smart, who's biggest weaknesses at draft time were his lack of shooting, average athleticism, and questionable passing/ball handling skills.

Dunn is an elite athlete and is one of the best passers and ball handlers in the draft.

You may recall John Wall and Kemba Walker couldn't shoot when they came in to the NBA.  I'd love to have either of those guys right now, and Dunn looks a hell of a lot like both of them.

While I agree with the general sentiments, I dont put Smart as an average athlete. He isnt an elite athlete, but his combine measures and some surprising flashes in his game says he is an above average athlete.

[crimson_stallion]

I like Dunn and like his potential, but his weaknesses reminds me a lot of a lottery bust we already have on our roster.

I have no idea who you are referring too.

The only playerI can think of is Smart, who's biggest weaknesses at draft time were his lack of shooting, average athleticism, and questionable passing/ball handling skills.

Dunn is an elite athlete and is one of the best passers and ball handlers in the draft.

You may recall John Wall and Kemba Walker couldn't shoot when they came in to the NBA.  I'd love to have either of those guys right now, and Dunn looks a hell of a lot like both of them.

While I agree with the general sentiments, I dont put Smart as an average athlete. He isnt an elite athlete, but his combine measures and some surprising flashes in his game says he is an above average athlete.

I'm just referring to what the scouts were saying at the time of the 2014/15 draft - I think every scouting report I read listed Smart's lack of great athleticism as a potential concern.

On the other hand, not a single scouting report I've seen has questioned Dunn's athleticism. 

As for my personal thoughts - I'm not sure I'd describe Smart as an above average NBA athlete to be honest, at least not in the traditional sense.  I think he uses his strength and frame fairly well, but I rarely ever see him blow by somebody off the dribble, and he's not exactly out there jumping over dudes either.

I definitely wouldn't describe him as below average athletically, but I don't think I'd describe him as above average either.  Terry Rozier, for example, is a far more impressive athlete IMHO.

[jambr380]

I like Dunn and like his potential, but his weaknesses reminds me a lot of a lottery bust we already have on our roster.

I have no idea who you are referring too.

The only playerI can think of is Smart, who's biggest weaknesses at draft time were his lack of shooting, average athleticism, and questionable passing/ball handling skills.

Dunn is an elite athlete and is one of the best passers and ball handlers in the draft.

You may recall John Wall and Kemba Walker couldn't shoot when they came in to the NBA.  I'd love to have either of those guys right now, and Dunn looks a hell of a lot like both of them.

While I agree with the general sentiments, I dont put Smart as an average athlete. He isnt an elite athlete, but his combine measures and some surprising flashes in his game says he is an above average athlete.

I'm just referring to what the scouts were saying at the time of the 2014/15 draft - I think every scouting report I read listed Smart's lack of great athleticism as a potential concern.

On the other hand, not a single scouting report I've seen has questioned Dunn's athleticism. 

As for my personal thoughts - I'm not sure I'd describe Smart as an above average NBA athlete to be honest, at least not in the traditional sense.  I think he uses his strength and frame fairly well, but I rarely ever see him blow by somebody off the dribble, and he's not exactly out there jumping over dudes either.

I definitely wouldn't describe him as below average athletically, but I don't think I'd describe him as above average either.  Terry Rozier, for example, is a far more impressive athlete IMHO.

Smart has had some incredible put-back dunks where he gets up much higher than Rozier, but that is only one part of athleticism and I agree that Smart generally uses his strength and IQ more than anything else.

I have not been quiet about my desire to draft Dunn. I feel like the people who don't like him haven't really seen him play and only don't want to draft him because he is old. Please go at least watch some YouTube videos - the guy screams DWade. Sometimes you can just see when guys have the It factor. Laziness, lack of athleticism, low bball IQ, and poor handles are not going to be problems for this guy at the next level.

[myselfonline]

I like Dunn and like his potential, but his weaknesses reminds me a lot of a lottery bust we already have on our roster.

I have no idea who you are referring too.

The only playerI can think of is Smart, who's biggest weaknesses at draft time were his lack of shooting, average athleticism, and questionable passing/ball handling skills.

Dunn is an elite athlete and is one of the best passers and ball handlers in the draft.

You may recall John Wall and Kemba Walker couldn't shoot when they came in to the NBA.  I'd love to have either of those guys right now, and Dunn looks a hell of a lot like both of them.

I was referring to Evan Turner. His weaknesses include reckless passes and forcing the issue with his dribble; and in general high turnovers.

[Smokeeye123]

I like Dunn and like his potential, but his weaknesses reminds me a lot of a lottery bust we already have on our roster.

I have no idea who you are referring too.

The only playerI can think of is Smart, who's biggest weaknesses at draft time were his lack of shooting, average athleticism, and questionable passing/ball handling skills.

Dunn is an elite athlete and is one of the best passers and ball handlers in the draft.

You may recall John Wall and Kemba Walker couldn't shoot when they came in to the NBA.  I'd love to have either of those guys right now, and Dunn looks a hell of a lot like both of them.

I was referring to Evan Turner. His weaknesses include reckless passes and forcing the issue with his dribble; and in general high turnovers.

He for sure doesn't have a great handle and struggles dribbling in traffic, but he absolutely won us some huge games down the stretch this year. He was the reason we beat the best regular season team of all time at home ending their streak https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lACTI6NwNvU

[alldaboston]

Sorry for bringing this thread back up, but I saw a cool Dunn interview today:

https://youtu.be/9OjOgcoETPw

Dunn went onto First Take, where Stephen A asked him if he had a preferred destination. Dunn responded that he would prefer to not go to a team where they already have a lot of guards. Seems that he's flip flopping on his stance, or that he forgot he wasn't supposed to say this in public. Because it clearly goes against what OP referred to in the link from the opening post (that it was a "rumor" or something).

Edit: he's also a lakers fan.

[Surferdad]

Sorry for bringing this thread back up, but I saw a cool Dunn interview today:

https://youtu.be/9OjOgcoETPw

Dunn went onto First Take, where Stephen A asked him if he had a preferred destination. Dunn responded that he would prefer to not go to a team where they already have a lot of guards. Seems that he's flip flopping on his stance, or that he forgot he wasn't supposed to say this in public. Because it clearly goes against what OP referred to in the link from the opening post (that it was a "rumor" or something).

Edit: he's also a lakers fan.

No apology necessary! That was an interesting video. Certainly if DA takes Dunn at #3, there will be other moves in the backcourt so he need not worry about PT. I am really warming up to Dunn as one of the most NBA-ready players available.

[saltlover]

Sorry for bringing this thread back up, but I saw a cool Dunn interview today:

https://youtu.be/9OjOgcoETPw

Dunn went onto First Take, where Stephen A asked him if he had a preferred destination. Dunn responded that he would prefer to not go to a team where they already have a lot of guards. Seems that he's flip flopping on his stance, or that he forgot he wasn't supposed to say this in public. Because it clearly goes against what OP referred to in the link from the opening post (that it was a "rumor" or something).

Edit: he's also a lakers fan.

No apology necessary! That was an interesting video. Certainly if DA takes Dunn at #3, there will be other moves in the backcourt so he need not worry about PT. I am really warming up to Dunn as one of the most NBA-ready players available.

If nothing else, I think Turner wouldn't be re-signed. That's 28 minutes a game that would free right up.  I sometimes wish agents would educate their players about the NBA a bit more.  It's not college, so you're not going to play 85% of the minutes for your team.  Assuming he stays reasonably healthy, Dunn will likely play more minutes next year than he did his final three years in college combined, Celtics or otherwise.

[Bobshot]

I like Dunn and like his potential, but his weaknesses reminds me a lot of a lottery bust we already have on our roster.

I have no idea who you are referring too.

The only playerI can think of is Smart, who's biggest weaknesses at draft time were his lack of shooting, average athleticism, and questionable passing/ball handling skills.

Dunn is an elite athlete and is one of the best passers and ball handlers in the draft.

You may recall John Wall and Kemba Walker couldn't shoot when they came in to the NBA.  I'd love to have either of those guys right now, and Dunn looks a hell of a lot like both of them.

While I agree with the general sentiments, I dont put Smart as an average athlete. He isnt an elite athlete, but his combine measures and some surprising flashes in his game says he is an above average athlete.

Smart adds a lot of toughness to a team that is as soft as a mushy grape up front. And I don't mean Crowder. Danny needs a couple players up front like Smart.

[biggs]

Unbelievable as in after all the stuff I put them through they still picked me.

[Pucaccia]

Dunn has said in an interview that he doesn't work out for teams because he is a defensive player and he wouldn't be able to showcase his talents as a defensive player.  I think it is a great move by his agent. He does everything well except being a stand out offensive player. His agent is making the best move.

[RockinRyA]

I like Dunn and like his potential, but his weaknesses reminds me a lot of a lottery bust we already have on our roster.

I have no idea who you are referring too.

The only playerI can think of is Smart, who's biggest weaknesses at draft time were his lack of shooting, average athleticism, and questionable passing/ball handling skills.

Dunn is an elite athlete and is one of the best passers and ball handlers in the draft.

You may recall John Wall and Kemba Walker couldn't shoot when they came in to the NBA.  I'd love to have either of those guys right now, and Dunn looks a hell of a lot like both of them.

While I agree with the general sentiments, I dont put Smart as an average athlete. He isnt an elite athlete, but his combine measures and some surprising flashes in his game says he is an above average athlete.

I'm just referring to what the scouts were saying at the time of the 2014/15 draft - I think every scouting report I read listed Smart's lack of great athleticism as a potential concern.

On the other hand, not a single scouting report I've seen has questioned Dunn's athleticism. 

As for my personal thoughts - I'm not sure I'd describe Smart as an above average NBA athlete to be honest, at least not in the traditional sense.  I think he uses his strength and frame fairly well, but I rarely ever see him blow by somebody off the dribble, and he's not exactly out there jumping over dudes either.

I definitely wouldn't describe him as below average athletically, but I don't think I'd describe him as above average either.  Terry Rozier, for example, is a far more impressive athlete IMHO.

The combine numbers put him at top 3 in quite a lot of the stats, only bested at some by exum who is a very good athlete. Its true his athleticism doesnt show much on offense but on off ball plays and defense you could see it

[BitterJim]

Sorry for bringing this thread back up, but I saw a cool Dunn interview today:

https://youtu.be/9OjOgcoETPw

Dunn went onto First Take, where Stephen A asked him if he had a preferred destination. Dunn responded that he would prefer to not go to a team where they already have a lot of guards. Seems that he's flip flopping on his stance, or that he forgot he wasn't supposed to say this in public. Because it clearly goes against what OP referred to in the link from the opening post (that it was a "rumor" or something).

Edit: he's also a lakers fan.

I don't think that being happy with being taken by the celtics and preferring to go to a team where you get playing time are mutually exclusive

I'd much rather have a guy who wants to go and play somewhere than a guy who wants to ride the bench (although the ideal answer would be that he wants to be somewhere where he has a chance to compete for and earn minutes)