I hope Simmons doesn't fall in our lap

[LarBrd33]

Someone should just create a thread that is like, "I hope we lose the #3 pick... none of the players or trade options are any good.  We would be better off with the empty roster spot."

[Androslav]

Gotta love Celtics Blog. I don't know what I love more, this or posts from people saying they no longer wanted Durant after the OKC collapse.

Those were gold

Figuratively and literally there is a Pacific ocean between Durant and Simmons.
Flashy players tend to catch the eye quicker.
To quote a celtic fan - "just my 5 cents"

[ahonui06]

Gotta love Celtics Blog. I don't know what I love more, this or posts from people saying they no longer wanted Durant after the OKC collapse.

Those were gold

Figuratively and literally there is a Pacific ocean between Durant and Simmons.
Flashy players tend to catch the eye quicker.
To quote a celtic fan - "just my 5 cents"

Literally isn't because Simmons is in the United States now just like Durant.

[PickNRoll]

I agree that there is an upper limit to how good a shooter Simmons can be.  BUT, I don't think it matters.  I see him more in the mold of Lamar Odom or Scottie Pippen.  He doesn't need to be a sharpshooter.  He won't be there at 3.

[ahonui06]

I agree that there is an upper limit to how good a shooter Simmons can be.  BUT, I don't think it matters.  I see him more in the mold of Lamar Odom or Scottie Pippen.  He doesn't need to be a sharpshooter.  He won't be there at 3.

1. Philadelphia will take him because they desperately need a playmaker and he is prototypical point forward. He will have ball handling and decision making responsibilities. He won't need to be an amazing shooter as long as he keeps teams honest by attacking the hoop and scoring.

2. And of course he won't be there at 3 lol.

[loco_91]

It's fair to argue that Simmons shouldn't go #1. His shooting is a real concern and his intangibles/effort level are concerning, although it's hard to gauge exactly how concerning. I think fit on the Sixers is a gigantic concern, although I wouldn't be as worried in Boston.

However, I think he's uniquely talented, with a blend of tools + sheer basketball ability we haven't seen in a long time. So I'd still take him #1, and I would be thrilled if he fell to us.

[passesofftodj]

This thread is ridiculous.  If his shooting tops out at LeBron and his other skills develop as they should he basically IS LeBron. 

You don't want that player?  His floor is Lamar Odom with a likely better mind/body and his ceiling is a mellower LeBron who may be an even better facilitator. 

This guy absolutely dominated with terrible coaching and injured teammates against older players last year.  Lots of guys don't win their first year at a higher level, so people are making far too big a deal of LSU's failings.

He by far has the highest ceiling of anybody in this draft.  Drafting Ingram or Bender ahead of this guy would be regrettable.

[SHAQATTACK]

Op should not loose any sleep .  It about  99% chance he won't

[Greyman]

Simmons goes 1 and Ingram 2. I can understand people debating the order maybe but beyond that any other result is crazy.

The kind of crazy that sees Simmons still on the table at 3 doesn't happen.

[spikelovetheCelts]

Simmons goes 1 and Ingram 2. I can understand people debating the order maybe but beyond that any other result is crazy.

The kind of crazy that sees Simmons still on the table at 3 doesn't happen.

And the Stories he is OK with Phily. Is because Phily is where he will be. Hopefully when they trade a big they will be wearing green.
 I think pick three is traded to Phx since we have an in there with the GM. They need a big not a guard too.

[LooseCannon]

He has the physical talent to be a star, but I do have concerns that he will turn out to be a better Jeff Green, minus the perimeter shooting, and with less fire in his belly.

[Androslav]

I agree that there is an upper limit to how good a shooter Simmons can be.  BUT, I don't think it matters.  I see him more in the mold of Lamar Odom or Scottie Pippen.  He doesn't need to be a sharpshooter.  He won't be there at 3.

1. Philadelphia will take him because they desperately need a playmaker and he is prototypical point forward. He will have ball handling and decision making responsibilities. He won't need to be an amazing shooter as long as he keeps teams honest by attacking the hoop and scoring.

2. And of course he won't be there at 3 lol.

I remember Doug Collins quoting Dr.J, when Doc was asked why he didn't develop a great jumpshot?
- I didn't have to. He said.
There is a lot of a truth in that, he was that good back in a day.
Still, in 3pt shooting era, to say that Simmons' shooting won't matter is kinda silly to me.
I think I gave some good points on why it isn't out of the realm of possibility that he ends up being 3rd best player in the draft after couple of years.
He has more weaknessis than I and others mentioned above;
- He has no post skills at all. no jumphook, no fadeaway, no footwork in the paint.
- His defensive stance (unseen to this day) and rim protection (relying solely on athleticism against inferior competition) are on a rook Blake Griffin level. Althogh he is fairly less athletic than Blake.

That said, it is trickier to construct a team with him than it is to incorporate Ingram or Bender in todays NBA contending team IMO.
From Philies perspective, I would take Ingram, as I really need scoring and especialy shooting.
They drafted and waited Saric for 2 years. He is a point forward, basicaly a lesser version of Simmons with more heart.
And if I am L.A. it is hard to pass on Simmons and try to recreate showtime.
However, historicaly they always have the best big men. A possible 2nd comming of Pau sholdn't be ruled out automaticaly. Similarly to Philies situation, L.A. also has a promising young ballhandling 4-man in the form of Julius Randle. They also have two young guards, thirsty to get the ball after Kobes last season, last season when he was jacking it up on sight. It would hinder their growth and eventualy their value. Media pressure and shaky Jim Buss chair would be too much for him not to take Simmons though.

That said, I would say there is about 5% chance that he lands here.
I would be thrilled if that happened.
Other team was tanking the whole season for us and gave us Simmons - whoopy!

One more thing to put the things in the perspective,
Who will be better in 2019, Giannis or Ben?

[CoachBo]

Simmons is worse than Bender?

Oh, my God.

[PickNRoll]

I agree that there is an upper limit to how good a shooter Simmons can be.  BUT, I don't think it matters.  I see him more in the mold of Lamar Odom or Scottie Pippen.  He doesn't need to be a sharpshooter.  He won't be there at 3.

1. Philadelphia will take him because they desperately need a playmaker and he is prototypical point forward. He will have ball handling and decision making responsibilities. He won't need to be an amazing shooter as long as he keeps teams honest by attacking the hoop and scoring.

2. And of course he won't be there at 3 lol.

I remember Doug Collins quoting Dr.J, when Doc was asked why he didn't develop a great jumpshot?
- I didn't have to. He said.
There is a lot of a truth in that, he was that good back in a day.
Still, in 3pt shooting era, to say that Simmons' shooting won't matter is kinda silly to me.
I think I gave some good points on why it isn't out of the realm of possibility that he ends up being 3rd best player in the draft after couple of years.
He has more weaknessis than I and others mentioned above;
- He has no post skills at all. no jumphook, no fadeaway, no footwork in the paint.
- His defensive stance (unseen to this day) and rim protection (relying solely on athleticism against inferior competition) are on a rook Blake Griffin level. Althogh he is fairly less athletic than Blake.

That said, it is trickier to construct a team with him than it is to incorporate Ingram or Bender in todays NBA contending team IMO.
From Philies perspective, I would take Ingram, as I really need scoring and especialy shooting.
They drafted and waited Saric for 2 years. He is a point forward, basicaly a lesser version of Simmons with more heart.
And if I am L.A. it is hard to pass on Simmons and try to recreate showtime.
However, historicaly they always have the best big men. A possible 2nd comming of Pau sholdn't be ruled out automaticaly. Similarly to Philies situation, L.A. also has a promising young ballhandling 4-man in the form of Julius Randle. They also have two young guards, thirsty to get the ball after Kobes last season, last season when he was jacking it up on sight. It would hinder their growth and eventualy their value. Media pressure and shaky Jim Buss chair would be too much for him not to take Simmons though.

That said, I would say there is about 5% chance that he lands here.
I would be thrilled if that happened.
Other team was tanking the whole season for us and gave us Simmons - whoopy!

One more thing to put the things in the perspective,
Who will be better in 2019, Giannis or Ben?

In other words, if Simmons is a failure he could be the 3rd best player in this class.  That's a very strong case for taking him 3rd.

[Ogaju]

I agree that there is an upper limit to how good a shooter Simmons can be.  BUT, I don't think it matters.  I see him more in the mold of Lamar Odom or Scottie Pippen.  He doesn't need to be a sharpshooter.  He won't be there at 3.

1. Philadelphia will take him because they desperately need a playmaker and he is prototypical point forward. He will have ball handling and decision making responsibilities. He won't need to be an amazing shooter as long as he keeps teams honest by attacking the hoop and scoring.

2. And of course he won't be there at 3 lol.

I remember Doug Collins quoting Dr.J, when Doc was asked why he didn't develop a great jumpshot?
- I didn't have to. He said.
There is a lot of a truth in that, he was that good back in a day.
Still, in 3pt shooting era, to say that Simmons' shooting won't matter is kinda silly to me.
I think I gave some good points on why it isn't out of the realm of possibility that he ends up being 3rd best player in the draft after couple of years.
He has more weaknessis than I and others mentioned above;
- He has no post skills at all. no jumphook, no fadeaway, no footwork in the paint.
- His defensive stance (unseen to this day) and rim protection (relying solely on athleticism against inferior competition) are on a rook Blake Griffin level. Althogh he is fairly less athletic than Blake.

That said, it is trickier to construct a team with him than it is to incorporate Ingram or Bender in todays NBA contending team IMO.
From Philies perspective, I would take Ingram, as I really need scoring and especialy shooting.
They drafted and waited Saric for 2 years. He is a point forward, basicaly a lesser version of Simmons with more heart.
And if I am L.A. it is hard to pass on Simmons and try to recreate showtime.
However, historicaly they always have the best big men. A possible 2nd comming of Pau sholdn't be ruled out automaticaly. Similarly to Philies situation, L.A. also has a promising young ballhandling 4-man in the form of Julius Randle. They also have two young guards, thirsty to get the ball after Kobes last season, last season when he was jacking it up on sight. It would hinder their growth and eventualy their value. Media pressure and shaky Jim Buss chair would be too much for him not to take Simmons though.

That said, I would say there is about 5% chance that he lands here.
I would be thrilled if that happened.
Other team was tanking the whole season for us and gave us Simmons - whoopy!

One more thing to put the things in the perspective,
Who will be better in 2019, Giannis or Ben?

You just went from hoping that 'Simmons does not fall in our lap' to ' you would be thrilled if that happens' 

What's up?