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Re: League planning to change hack a player rules
« Reply #15 on: April 23, 2016, 12:32:35 AM »

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So Adam silver seems to have changed his tune and now wants to change the hack a player strategy. I personally am pretty disappointed about this. I get that it gets boring some times when teams are hacking drummond and jordan, but I strongly disagree with the premise of changing the rules because these guys lack a legitimate basketball skill. Both Jordan and Drummond are incredible rebounders and good defenders, but they do become a real liability to the point that their team can't play them in certain situations because they can't hit a foul shot.
To have this weakness just off-set by a rule change seems really strange and instantly makes them much better players. The only thing I can think of that was similar was when the NBA moved in the three point line and, if memory serves correct, that was a disaster.



http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/241677/NBA-Expected-To-Make-Rule-Change-On-Hack-A-Shaq
they are changing the rule since the current situation makes the nba a suckier game and loses fan interest.

besides, as was established in an earlier thread, the nba has changed it rules to accomodate individual players many times already. the point is to make basketball a more enjoyable, and profitable, form of entertainment.

there is no "purity of the game" BS here. the rules have changed many times.
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Re: League planning to change hack a player rules
« Reply #16 on: April 23, 2016, 01:26:13 PM »

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i didn't realize i'd be in the minority in wanting a change in the hack-a-Shaq rule. I always hated it because imo, a "foul" should not be beneficial to the team fouling. That's why it's a foul. It's a "transgression" of the rules.

Here's what I think the new rules could be (assuming penalty situation):
1) If a player is fouled while not shooting and he's holding/handling the ball, he automatically goes to the line to shoot 2 FTs
2) If a player is fouled off the ball (e.g. on a rebound or the usual hack strategy), then the coach of the fouled player has a choice of inbounding the ball (reset shot clock to 14) or having that player shoot 2 FTs. He must decide in the timespan of a "substitution" or else the decision automatically becomes 2 free throws.

And for those using the "well if he can't make FT's, tough luck!" argument, that could go both ways too. For example, why not just remove the defensive and offensive 3 second violations? if teams are playing people "out of position" by going small, then teams who stay big should be able to punish them in the paint. Or why not bring back hand checking? If guards can't fight through the defense, then boohoo, they should've focused on improving their strength more. As a matter of fact, why even have a shot clock? If the defense can't steal the ball from the opponent for 48 minutes, then that's their fault.

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Re: League planning to change hack a player rules
« Reply #17 on: April 23, 2016, 01:33:42 PM »

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I think it's simple.

Hack-a-shaq fouls are intentional fouls.  They are not accidental fouls while trying to go for the ball, or accidental contact when trying to go for a block.  It is intentionally grabbing a guy with the intention of forcing him to take free throws.

To me any 'intentional' foul is, technically, quite unsportsmanlike.  I wouldn't go so far as to treat it as a flagrant (unless it's potentially harmful) but treating it as a technical foul makes sense I think.

That would eliminate those kinds of fouls pretty quickly, since two technical makes for an instant ejection and (IIRC) suspension while also giving the opponent a free throw AND possession for each.  That makes it way too risky. 

If staring down / taunting a player is enough to warrant a technical foul, then I can't see why INTENTIONALLY fouling a guy isn't.