NBA Playoffs 2015-2016

[rocknrollforyoursoul]

Was the ref Marc Davis? If so, he's got a sketchy past as a ref anyways.

Yup, it sure was. I was just about to come on here and mention that it was the infamous Marc Davis, so this noncall doesn't surprise me.

[jpotter33]

Oh my goodness, that is huge. Ibaka straight up pushed Ginobli when he was the one inbounding the ball.

NBA officiating is so effing terrible, and how many calls now have they blown in the last two minutes that cost playoff games?

If I'm Pop I'm raising all sorts of hell about that, especially being RIGHT IN FRONT of the referee... There's going to be some hell to pay there.

The Spurs got the ball. They choked at the end. They had a 3 v 1 and blew it.

No way can you blame the refs. The Spurs blew a great chance at the end.

Yeah, I can't blame the refs for expecting them to do their jobs 

I get it you want the Spurs to win cause then Durant leaves so your judgement is clouded. The refs made a decision to swallow their whistles. They could had called a bad foul on green when he got the ball from Durant. It was a mad scramble. Spurs choked.

You're so out there sometimes it's not even worth arguing with you.

Webber blew a gasket over it.

The NBA on TNT crew is blowing a gasket over it.

But, no, you're right. No big deal. 

Riiiiight. Cause you are only getting charged up cause you want Durant. We all do but the Spurs choked that last play. They aren't getting a better chance out of a timeout then a 3v1. That's why Pop didn't call a timeout. They benefitted and choked.

Okay, bud. You're the one with the burden of proof saying that it's not a big deal that an obvious missed call was not called, because most rational people see the logic behind the argument that it is, in fact, a big deal. Keep reveling in your biased ignorance just because you made a post earlier this game saying how good the refs have been. 

[fairweatherfan]

Oh my goodness, that is huge. Ibaka straight up pushed Ginobli when he was the one inbounding the ball.

NBA officiating is so effing terrible, and how many calls now have they blown in the last two minutes that cost playoff games?

If I'm Pop I'm raising all sorts of hell about that, especially being RIGHT IN FRONT of the referee... There's going to be some hell to pay there.

The Spurs got the ball. They choked at the end. They had a 3 v 1 and blew it.

No way can you blame the refs. The Spurs blew a great chance at the end.

Blew it...or fell victim to a crazy defensive sequence by Steven Adams? Regardless, if a foul is committed, it should be called.

People are going to talk about the pushoff not getting called (and rightly so), but it's a shame Adams' defense on that last possession will be forgotten.  An absolutely brilliant defensive possession to save the game.  Seriously, everyone go watch the replay and just track Adams.

Green should had taken a couple of dribbles to make Adams step up.

Agreed but I think Adams' rushing back made him overthrow what should've been an easy pass.  Mills had a wide-open lane if the pass wasn't long.

[Smart457]

Oh my goodness, that is huge. Ibaka straight up pushed Ginobli when he was the one inbounding the ball.

NBA officiating is so effing terrible, and how many calls now have they blown in the last two minutes that cost playoff games?

If I'm Pop I'm raising all sorts of hell about that, especially being RIGHT IN FRONT of the referee... There's going to be some hell to pay there.

The Spurs got the ball. They choked at the end. They had a 3 v 1 and blew it.

No way can you blame the refs. The Spurs blew a great chance at the end.

Yeah, I can't blame the refs for expecting them to do their jobs 

I get it you want the Spurs to win cause then Durant leaves so your judgement is clouded. The refs made a decision to swallow their whistles. They could had called a bad foul on green when he got the ball from Durant. It was a mad scramble. Spurs choked.

You're so out there sometimes it's not even worth arguing with you.

Webber blew a gasket over it.

The NBA on TNT crew is blowing a gasket over it.

But, no, you're right. No big deal. 

Riiiiight. Cause you are only getting charged up cause you want Durant. We all do but the Spurs choked that last play. They aren't getting a better chance out of a timeout then a 3v1. That's why Pop didn't call a timeout. They benefitted and choked.

Okay, bud. You're the one with the burden of proof saying that it's not a big deal that an obvious missed call was not called, because most rational people see the logic behind the argument that it is, in fact, a big deal. Keep reveling in your biased ignorance just because you made a post earlier this game saying how good the refs have been. 

And what did I say earlier? That the refs have swallowed their whistles so far. Isn't that what happened at the end of the game? How is that any different then what I posted earlier?

The Spurs could had called a timeout but the 3v1 was a much higher percentage. Tell me how the Spurs got screwed? They choked.

[max215]

If you're Pop, do you protest the game?

Yes. They do have some sort of mechanism to address that, don't they?

I remember Memphis won a game on a Courtney Lee layup with .3 seconds left, and some team who had Javale McGee at the time said that he tipped it, meaning time would've ran out before he could put it in. The NBA reviewed it and ruled against the protest.

They should be able to protest (if they want to). The grounds for a protest are VERY open-ended; they basically permit a team to challenge the outcome of the game if there was any major mistake that impacted the outcome of the game. The most recent example was in a Heat vs. Hawks game in 2008; Shaq was given a 6th foul incorrectly, disqualifying him from the game. The Heat protested, won, and the game was finished later.

[Smart457]

If you're Pop, do you protest the game?

Yes. They do have some sort of mechanism to address that, don't they?

I remember Memphis won a game on a Courtney Lee layup with .3 seconds left, and some team who had Javale McGee at the time said that he tipped it, meaning time would've ran out before he could put it in. The NBA reviewed it and ruled against the protest.

They should be able to protest (if they want to). The grounds for a protest are VERY open-ended; they basically permit a team to challenge the outcome of the game if there was any major mistake that impacted the outcome of the game. The most recent example was in a Heat vs. Hawks game in 2008; Shaq was given a 6th foul incorrectly, disqualifying him from the game. The Heat protested, won, and the game was finished later.

But the Spurs got the ball.

I'm trying to figure out the logic here. Why are you complaining? The Spurs had a very high percentage chance to score on a 3 v 1.

[jpotter33]

Oh my goodness, that is huge. Ibaka straight up pushed Ginobli when he was the one inbounding the ball.

NBA officiating is so effing terrible, and how many calls now have they blown in the last two minutes that cost playoff games?

If I'm Pop I'm raising all sorts of hell about that, especially being RIGHT IN FRONT of the referee... There's going to be some hell to pay there.

The Spurs got the ball. They choked at the end. They had a 3 v 1 and blew it.

No way can you blame the refs. The Spurs blew a great chance at the end.

Yeah, I can't blame the refs for expecting them to do their jobs 

I get it you want the Spurs to win cause then Durant leaves so your judgement is clouded. The refs made a decision to swallow their whistles. They could had called a bad foul on green when he got the ball from Durant. It was a mad scramble. Spurs choked.

You're so out there sometimes it's not even worth arguing with you.

Webber blew a gasket over it.

The NBA on TNT crew is blowing a gasket over it.

But, no, you're right. No big deal. 

Riiiiight. Cause you are only getting charged up cause you want Durant. We all do but the Spurs choked that last play. They aren't getting a better chance out of a timeout then a 3v1. That's why Pop didn't call a timeout. They benefitted and choked.

Okay, bud. You're the one with the burden of proof saying that it's not a big deal that an obvious missed call was not called, because most rational people see the logic behind the argument that it is, in fact, a big deal. Keep reveling in your biased ignorance just because you made a post earlier this game saying how good the refs have been. 

And what did I say earlier? That the refs have swallowed their whistles so far. Isn't that what happened at the end of the game? How is that any different then what I posted earlier?

The Spurs could had called a timeout but the 3v1 was a much higher percentage. Tell me how the Spurs got screwed? They choked.

Last time that I'm indulging you, because you don't seem to be rational or objective enough at the moment to look at the play objectively.

Here's the play again: https://twitter.com/Deadspin/status/727349361785626624

That's only justifiably "swallowing their whistles" and "not screwing over the Spurs" to OKC fans. There's absolutely no justification for not calling that call whatsoever, and I'd be saying the exact same thing if the roles were reversed.

[86MaxwellSmart]

None of this Matters----the ONLY thing that does---is that the 1986 Celtics did NOT lose a game at home in the playoffs---S.A. just did---Thus---The 1986 Celtics are the Greatest Home team ever---and the Greatest NBA Team of All Time---!
Yup. ;-)

[Smart457]

Oh my goodness, that is huge. Ibaka straight up pushed Ginobli when he was the one inbounding the ball.

NBA officiating is so effing terrible, and how many calls now have they blown in the last two minutes that cost playoff games?

If I'm Pop I'm raising all sorts of hell about that, especially being RIGHT IN FRONT of the referee... There's going to be some hell to pay there.

The Spurs got the ball. They choked at the end. They had a 3 v 1 and blew it.

No way can you blame the refs. The Spurs blew a great chance at the end.

Yeah, I can't blame the refs for expecting them to do their jobs 

I get it you want the Spurs to win cause then Durant leaves so your judgement is clouded. The refs made a decision to swallow their whistles. They could had called a bad foul on green when he got the ball from Durant. It was a mad scramble. Spurs choked.

You're so out there sometimes it's not even worth arguing with you.

Webber blew a gasket over it.

The NBA on TNT crew is blowing a gasket over it.

But, no, you're right. No big deal. 

Riiiiight. Cause you are only getting charged up cause you want Durant. We all do but the Spurs choked that last play. They aren't getting a better chance out of a timeout then a 3v1. That's why Pop didn't call a timeout. They benefitted and choked.

Okay, bud. You're the one with the burden of proof saying that it's not a big deal that an obvious missed call was not called, because most rational people see the logic behind the argument that it is, in fact, a big deal. Keep reveling in your biased ignorance just because you made a post earlier this game saying how good the refs have been. 

And what did I say earlier? That the refs have swallowed their whistles so far. Isn't that what happened at the end of the game? How is that any different then what I posted earlier?

The Spurs could had called a timeout but the 3v1 was a much higher percentage. Tell me how the Spurs got screwed? They choked.

Last time that I'm indulging you, because you don't seem to be rational or objective enough at the moment to look at the play objectively.

Here's the play again: https://twitter.com/Deadspin/status/727349361785626624

That's only justifiably "swallowing their whistles" and "not screwing over the Spurs" to OKC fans. There's absolutely no justification for not calling that call whatsoever, and I'd be saying the exact same thing if the roles were reversed.

You still haven't told me what better play the Spurs would have other than that 3v1.

The point I'm making is not if it was a foul or not but that the Spurs choked and can't blame the refs.

[jpotter33]

If you're Pop, do you protest the game?

Yes. They do have some sort of mechanism to address that, don't they?

I remember Memphis won a game on a Courtney Lee layup with .3 seconds left, and some team who had Javale McGee at the time said that he tipped it, meaning time would've ran out before he could put it in. The NBA reviewed it and ruled against the protest.

They should be able to protest (if they want to). The grounds for a protest are VERY open-ended; they basically permit a team to challenge the outcome of the game if there was any major mistake that impacted the outcome of the game. The most recent example was in a Heat vs. Hawks game in 2008; Shaq was given a 6th foul incorrectly, disqualifying him from the game. The Heat protested, won, and the game was finished later.

You have to think they will protest then. I thought that they were stricter rules/conditions than that. It's obviously a miscue that should've been called, but I think it will ultimately depend upon what the call should've been if it was called. If there's any chance that they get free throws on that (like a technical or flagrant foul or some other type of foul giving them free throws), then you have to play it over.

The NBA on TNT crew is trying to get a ruling on what the call would've ultimately been.

[max215]

If you're Pop, do you protest the game?

Yes. They do have some sort of mechanism to address that, don't they?

I remember Memphis won a game on a Courtney Lee layup with .3 seconds left, and some team who had Javale McGee at the time said that he tipped it, meaning time would've ran out before he could put it in. The NBA reviewed it and ruled against the protest.

They should be able to protest (if they want to). The grounds for a protest are VERY open-ended; they basically permit a team to challenge the outcome of the game if there was any major mistake that impacted the outcome of the game. The most recent example was in a Heat vs. Hawks game in 2008; Shaq was given a 6th foul incorrectly, disqualifying him from the game. The Heat protested, won, and the game was finished later.

But the Spurs got the ball.

I'm trying to figure out the logic here. Why are you complaining? The Spurs had a very high percentage chance to score on a 3 v 1.

Because I think the (no) call was incorrect. It doesn't matter that the result was a good opportunity for the Spurs. The rules are in place for a reason. There were several CLEAR violations of the rules on that play. Swallowing whistles is one thing when it comes to something a bit more subjective (contact down low), but the rules are explcit and clear when it comes to what happened on that play. I'm not sure how one can watch that play and not be annoyed that nothing was called.

[jpotter33]

Oh my goodness, that is huge. Ibaka straight up pushed Ginobli when he was the one inbounding the ball.

NBA officiating is so effing terrible, and how many calls now have they blown in the last two minutes that cost playoff games?

If I'm Pop I'm raising all sorts of hell about that, especially being RIGHT IN FRONT of the referee... There's going to be some hell to pay there.

The Spurs got the ball. They choked at the end. They had a 3 v 1 and blew it.

No way can you blame the refs. The Spurs blew a great chance at the end.

Yeah, I can't blame the refs for expecting them to do their jobs 

I get it you want the Spurs to win cause then Durant leaves so your judgement is clouded. The refs made a decision to swallow their whistles. They could had called a bad foul on green when he got the ball from Durant. It was a mad scramble. Spurs choked.

You're so out there sometimes it's not even worth arguing with you.

Webber blew a gasket over it.

The NBA on TNT crew is blowing a gasket over it.

But, no, you're right. No big deal. 

Riiiiight. Cause you are only getting charged up cause you want Durant. We all do but the Spurs choked that last play. They aren't getting a better chance out of a timeout then a 3v1. That's why Pop didn't call a timeout. They benefitted and choked.

Okay, bud. You're the one with the burden of proof saying that it's not a big deal that an obvious missed call was not called, because most rational people see the logic behind the argument that it is, in fact, a big deal. Keep reveling in your biased ignorance just because you made a post earlier this game saying how good the refs have been. 

And what did I say earlier? That the refs have swallowed their whistles so far. Isn't that what happened at the end of the game? How is that any different then what I posted earlier?

The Spurs could had called a timeout but the 3v1 was a much higher percentage. Tell me how the Spurs got screwed? They choked.

Last time that I'm indulging you, because you don't seem to be rational or objective enough at the moment to look at the play objectively.

Here's the play again: https://twitter.com/Deadspin/status/727349361785626624

That's only justifiably "swallowing their whistles" and "not screwing over the Spurs" to OKC fans. There's absolutely no justification for not calling that call whatsoever, and I'd be saying the exact same thing if the roles were reversed.

You still haven't told me what better play the Spurs would have other than that 3v1.

The point I'm making is not if it was a foul or not but that the Spurs choked and can't blame the refs.

Yes, you can. It doesn't matter what happened after the no-call, because a stoppage in play would've necessarily happened and forced Pop to take a timeout. You have absolutely no idea what would've happened after that if the call was called correctly, so saying that they didn't score on the 3v1 so they don't deserve a second chance doesn't make any sense.

[Smart457]

If you're Pop, do you protest the game?

Yes. They do have some sort of mechanism to address that, don't they?

I remember Memphis won a game on a Courtney Lee layup with .3 seconds left, and some team who had Javale McGee at the time said that he tipped it, meaning time would've ran out before he could put it in. The NBA reviewed it and ruled against the protest.

They should be able to protest (if they want to). The grounds for a protest are VERY open-ended; they basically permit a team to challenge the outcome of the game if there was any major mistake that impacted the outcome of the game. The most recent example was in a Heat vs. Hawks game in 2008; Shaq was given a 6th foul incorrectly, disqualifying him from the game. The Heat protested, won, and the game was finished later.

But the Spurs got the ball.

I'm trying to figure out the logic here. Why are you complaining? The Spurs had a very high percentage chance to score on a 3 v 1.

Because I think the (no) call was incorrect. It doesn't matter that the result was a good opportunity for the Spurs. The rules are in place for a reason. There were several CLEAR violations of the rules on that play. Swallowing whistles is one thing when it comes to something a bit more subjective (contact down low), but the rules are explcit and clear when it comes to what happened on that play. I'm not sure how one can watch that play and not be annoyed that nothing was called.

You do realize that fouls are missed at all points during the game. Are they going to protest because a missed call happened in the first quarter also now?

[Smart457]

Oh my goodness, that is huge. Ibaka straight up pushed Ginobli when he was the one inbounding the ball.

NBA officiating is so effing terrible, and how many calls now have they blown in the last two minutes that cost playoff games?

If I'm Pop I'm raising all sorts of hell about that, especially being RIGHT IN FRONT of the referee... There's going to be some hell to pay there.

The Spurs got the ball. They choked at the end. They had a 3 v 1 and blew it.

No way can you blame the refs. The Spurs blew a great chance at the end.

Yeah, I can't blame the refs for expecting them to do their jobs 

I get it you want the Spurs to win cause then Durant leaves so your judgement is clouded. The refs made a decision to swallow their whistles. They could had called a bad foul on green when he got the ball from Durant. It was a mad scramble. Spurs choked.

You're so out there sometimes it's not even worth arguing with you.

Webber blew a gasket over it.

The NBA on TNT crew is blowing a gasket over it.

But, no, you're right. No big deal. 

Riiiiight. Cause you are only getting charged up cause you want Durant. We all do but the Spurs choked that last play. They aren't getting a better chance out of a timeout then a 3v1. That's why Pop didn't call a timeout. They benefitted and choked.

Okay, bud. You're the one with the burden of proof saying that it's not a big deal that an obvious missed call was not called, because most rational people see the logic behind the argument that it is, in fact, a big deal. Keep reveling in your biased ignorance just because you made a post earlier this game saying how good the refs have been. 

And what did I say earlier? That the refs have swallowed their whistles so far. Isn't that what happened at the end of the game? How is that any different then what I posted earlier?

The Spurs could had called a timeout but the 3v1 was a much higher percentage. Tell me how the Spurs got screwed? They choked.

Last time that I'm indulging you, because you don't seem to be rational or objective enough at the moment to look at the play objectively.

Here's the play again: https://twitter.com/Deadspin/status/727349361785626624

That's only justifiably "swallowing their whistles" and "not screwing over the Spurs" to OKC fans. There's absolutely no justification for not calling that call whatsoever, and I'd be saying the exact same thing if the roles were reversed.

You still haven't told me what better play the Spurs would have other than that 3v1.

The point I'm making is not if it was a foul or not but that the Spurs choked and can't blame the refs.

Yes, you can. It doesn't matter what happened after the no-call, because a stoppage in play would've necessarily happened and forced Pop to take a timeout. You have absolutely no idea what would've happened after that if the call was called correctly, so saying that they didn't score on the 3v1 so they don't deserve a second chance doesn't make any sense.

Listen to Ginobili. He came to his senses saying they had their chance.

If teams can protest a call that they still got the ball then maybe the Thunder can protest other calls. Slippery slope. Not happening.

[jpotter33]

If you're Pop, do you protest the game?

Yes. They do have some sort of mechanism to address that, don't they?

I remember Memphis won a game on a Courtney Lee layup with .3 seconds left, and some team who had Javale McGee at the time said that he tipped it, meaning time would've ran out before he could put it in. The NBA reviewed it and ruled against the protest.

They should be able to protest (if they want to). The grounds for a protest are VERY open-ended; they basically permit a team to challenge the outcome of the game if there was any major mistake that impacted the outcome of the game. The most recent example was in a Heat vs. Hawks game in 2008; Shaq was given a 6th foul incorrectly, disqualifying him from the game. The Heat protested, won, and the game was finished later.

But the Spurs got the ball.

I'm trying to figure out the logic here. Why are you complaining? The Spurs had a very high percentage chance to score on a 3 v 1.

Because I think the (no) call was incorrect. It doesn't matter that the result was a good opportunity for the Spurs. The rules are in place for a reason. There were several CLEAR violations of the rules on that play. Swallowing whistles is one thing when it comes to something a bit more subjective (contact down low), but the rules are explcit and clear when it comes to what happened on that play. I'm not sure how one can watch that play and not be annoyed that nothing was called.

Exactly. You can't justify the no-call because of what happened after it.