Anybody think Danny will throw a curveball on draft night and pick Chriss 3rd?

[footey]

He's a cross between Leon Powe and Jordan Mickey.  I like his game, but he seems a little stiff.

[alewilliam789]

Chriss has a jump shot, handles, post moves,  shot blocking, able to guard inside outside, rebounding potential.   Nasty dunks in your face. He plays with swagger

on the surface he looks every bit as good as Ingram and Simmons.  He is a strong kid and more explosive than either Ingram or Simmons.

The bad is,  he had a very inconsistent season except the last 4 or 5 games (string of 20 points, and all kinds of other stats).   He looked like a million bucks all of a sudden. 

He could be a better rebounder given his tools, and at times was lost on the court.  He could of played harder like he did the last 4-5 games.   Difficult to know, if he really tried because he wanted to up his position in the draft or because he "got it" together but very late in the year.

I agree with all of this and he could fit very well into the small ball basketball that the league is moving towards. The one problem I have with this pick is whether we have the rim protection to play a undersized PF and also whether Chris would make the transition from college because his game kinda reminds me of Anthony Bennett. Teams like Golden State have the luxury of playing D. Green next to Bogut for added rim protection so Green's size isn't as big of a issue. If we drafted Chriss he would be playing next to Jared Sullinger as his center.

[Tr1boy]

Chriss has a jump shot, handles, post moves,  shot blocking, able to guard inside outside, rebounding potential.   Nasty dunks in your face. He plays with swagger

on the surface he looks every bit as good as Ingram and Simmons.  He is a strong kid and more explosive than either Ingram or Simmons.

The bad is,  he had a very inconsistent season except the last 4 or 5 games (string of 20 points, and all kinds of other stats).   He looked like a million bucks all of a sudden. 

He could be a better rebounder given his tools, and at times was lost on the court.  He could of played harder like he did the last 4-5 games.   Difficult to know, if he really tried because he wanted to up his position in the draft or because he "got it" together but very late in the year.

I agree with all of this and he could fit very well into the small ball basketball that the league is moving towards. The one problem I have with this pick is whether we have the rim protection to play a undersized PF and also whether Chris would make the transition from college because his game kinda reminds me of Anthony Bennett. Teams like Golden State have the luxury of playing D. Green next to Bogut for added rim protection so Green's size isn't as big of a issue. If we drafted Chriss he would be playing next to Jared Sullinger as his center.

Some good points. 

[Tr1boy]

He's a cross between Leon Powe and Jordan Mickey.  I like his game, but he seems a little stiff.

haha Leon Powe.   Because of their posture? I can see it

[Boris Badenov]

Chriss has a jump shot, handles, post moves,  shot blocking, able to guard inside outside, rebounding potential. 

Wow, when you decide you like someone you really gloss over things.

Here's what DX has to say about his "rebounding potential":

At 4.1 rebounds per-40, Chriss ranks among the least prolific power forwards in NBA Draft history according to our database. Among first round picks, only Thaddeus Young (who played mostly SF in college) had a worse defensive rebounding rate in the draft's last 30 years.

[pearljammer10]

No.

[Tr1boy]

Chriss has a jump shot, handles, post moves,  shot blocking, able to guard inside outside, rebounding potential. 

Wow, when you decide you like someone you really gloss over things.

Here's what DX has to say about his "rebounding potential":

At 4.1 rebounds per-40, Chriss ranks among the least prolific power forwards in NBA Draft history according to our database. Among first round picks, only Thaddeus Young (who played mostly SF in college) had a worse defensive rebounding rate in the draft's last 30 years.

He is a freshman my friend.  Inconsistent year

Young btw rpg 9.0 this season. Not too shabby eh? =P

[hwangjini_1]

Chriss has a jump shot, handles, post moves,  shot blocking, able to guard inside outside, rebounding potential. 

Wow, when you decide you like someone you really gloss over things.

Here's what DX has to say about his "rebounding potential":

At 4.1 rebounds per-40, Chriss ranks among the least prolific power forwards in NBA Draft history according to our database. Among first round picks, only Thaddeus Young (who played mostly SF in college) had a worse defensive rebounding rate in the draft's last 30 years.

He is a freshman my friend.  Inconsistent year

Young btw rpg 9.0 this season. Not too shabby eh? =P

sounds like rationalization to me. compare his rebounding to other freshmen and it is still awful.

[Tr1boy]

Chriss has a jump shot, handles, post moves,  shot blocking, able to guard inside outside, rebounding potential. 

Wow, when you decide you like someone you really gloss over things.

Here's what DX has to say about his "rebounding potential":

At 4.1 rebounds per-40, Chriss ranks among the least prolific power forwards in NBA Draft history according to our database. Among first round picks, only Thaddeus Young (who played mostly SF in college) had a worse defensive rebounding rate in the draft's last 30 years.

He is a freshman my friend.  Inconsistent year

Young btw rpg 9.0 this season. Not too shabby eh? =P

sounds like rationalization to me. compare his rebounding to other freshmen and it is still awful.

The question is, what position does Chriss play?  He had several 10 plus rebound games this year. But it was mainly around 5.5

Is he a pf or sf?   

For a SF 5-7 rpg is fine.   For a PF you need to do better unless you are playing with Drummond by your side

Chriss is a PF/SF and could get away by just being that on a Celtics squad that has strong rebounding sf/guards anyways.

And this is worst case. I think he can improve.

The upside is there. The strength is excellent for a freshman.   He just needs someone to help him tighten the nuts and bolts

[loco_91]

That's not a curveball. That's a knuckeball into the stands.

[crimson_stallion]

6'9 pf/sf 7'2 wingspan ,225- 230 pounds. Explosive

I predict Chriss to really rise after measurements/tests/workouts.  How high not sure. But he won't be picked 17 like some sites predict currently

Kid has the physical tools/skills to drool for.  Maybe Chad Ford could be right for once (stunning prediction a few weeks ago that Danny will take him 5th)

Can we really see Danny taking the safe route after missing on either Simmons or Ingram? 

Hypothetical question. I'm not saying he will.  Thoughts?

Chriss highlights.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2GbgudjwZ4s

https://youtu.be/DVdSqMQr-5k

No disrespect, but I will say a massively huge hell no to the idea of us acquiring any more big men who are 6'9" or under.

I was OK with it when we took Mickey because he was a late selection, and the talents he offered (rebounding, shot blocking, athleticism, and a decent jumper) was pretty appealing so late in the draft.

But aside from that, I am honestly getting sick and tired of seeing us constantly bring in a never ending stream of six-nine-and-under big men.  Sully, Jerebko, Bass, Lee, Mickey, Jeff Green (he played PF at times), etc. 

In rare cases where we have brought in 7 footers, it's been ones who either play a soft/finesse game (Olynyk, Zeller) or ones who are utterly lacking in talent (Collins, Hollins, Troy Murphy). 

I feels like a decade since we had a big on this team who actually had the size and game of a big.  I'll make an exception with Simmons because at the very least his value as an asset is sky high, and he could potentially bring back a star in a trade if he doesn't look like a good fit at the start. 

But Chriss is not highly valued around the league as an asset, and I'm just not interested in bringing in another undersized big man.

[BitterJim]

6'9 pf/sf 7'2 wingspan ,225- 230 pounds. Explosive

I predict Chriss to really rise after measurements/tests/workouts.  How high not sure. But he won't be picked 17 like some sites predict currently

Kid has the physical tools/skills to drool for.  Maybe Chad Ford could be right for once (stunning prediction a few weeks ago that Danny will take him 5th)

Can we really see Danny taking the safe route after missing on either Simmons or Ingram? 

Hypothetical question. I'm not saying he will.  Thoughts?

Chriss highlights.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2GbgudjwZ4s

https://youtu.be/DVdSqMQr-5k

No disrespect, but I will say a massively huge hell no to the idea of us acquiring any more big men who are 6'9" or under.

I was OK with it when we took Mickey because he was a late selection, and the talents he offered (rebounding, shot blocking, athleticism, and a decent jumper) was pretty appealing so late in the draft.

But aside from that, I am honestly getting sick and tired of seeing us constantly bring in a never ending stream of six-nine-and-under big men.  Sully, Jerebko, Bass, Lee, Mickey, Jeff Green (he played PF at times), etc. 

In rare cases where we have brought in 7 footers, it's been ones who either play a soft/finesse game (Olynyk, Zeller) or ones who are utterly lacking in talent (Collins, Hollins, Troy Murphy). 

I feels like a decade since we had a big on this team who actually had the size and game of a big.  I'll make an exception with Simmons because at the very least his value as an asset is sky high, and he could potentially bring back a star in a trade if he doesn't look like a good fit at the start. 

But Chriss is not highly valued around the league as an asset, and I'm just not interested in bringing in another undersized big man.

Everybody, especially Danny, would LOVE to draft a big man that's not undersized, has well developed skills, and is extremely athletic

The problem is that players like that are rare, and they haven't been available when we've drafted or been available in trades.  Players don't give up really talented big men unless they have to, and even then they want a king's ransom

[crimson_stallion]

Chriss has a jump shot, handles, post moves,  shot blocking, able to guard inside outside, rebounding potential. 

Wow, when you decide you like someone you really gloss over things.

Here's what DX has to say about his "rebounding potential":

At 4.1 rebounds per-40, Chriss ranks among the least prolific power forwards in NBA Draft history according to our database. Among first round picks, only Thaddeus Young (who played mostly SF in college) had a worse defensive rebounding rate in the draft's last 30 years.

He is a freshman my friend.  Inconsistent year

Young btw rpg 9.0 this season. Not too shabby eh? =P

sounds like rationalization to me. compare his rebounding to other freshmen and it is still awful.

The question is, what position does Chriss play?  He had several 10 plus rebound games this year. But it was mainly around 5.5

Is he a pf or sf?   

For a SF 5-7 rpg is fine.   For a PF you need to do better unless you are playing with Drummond by your side

Chriss is a PF/SF and could get away by just being that on a Celtics squad that has strong rebounding sf/guards anyways.

And this is worst case. I think he can improve.

The upside is there. The strength is excellent for a freshman.   He just needs someone to help him tighten the nuts and bolts

From all I've seen he sounds like a guy with a Jeff Green / Rudy Gay upside. The type of guy you would go consider if you had a pick in the mid first round (14 - 20 range) but no way you waste a top 5 pick on a guy like that. 

NBADraft.net projects him to go 20th to the Pacers.  Draft Express projects him to go 15th to the Nuggets.

Our Mavs pick should fall somewhere in the #15 - #17 range, and it shouldn't be hard at all to trade up and take him with one of our later picks if we really wanted to.  It makes zero sense to stretch that far when you have a top 3 pick with multiple star prospects available.

I would be happy to give the guy a shot with the Mavs pick if he is still there at #15/#16 (whichever we end up with). 

[jdz101]

If danny keeps the pick and its top 3, this isnt one where I want him to think out of the box.

[crimson_stallion]

6'9 pf/sf 7'2 wingspan ,225- 230 pounds. Explosive

I predict Chriss to really rise after measurements/tests/workouts.  How high not sure. But he won't be picked 17 like some sites predict currently

Kid has the physical tools/skills to drool for.  Maybe Chad Ford could be right for once (stunning prediction a few weeks ago that Danny will take him 5th)

Can we really see Danny taking the safe route after missing on either Simmons or Ingram? 

Hypothetical question. I'm not saying he will.  Thoughts?

Chriss highlights.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2GbgudjwZ4s

https://youtu.be/DVdSqMQr-5k

No disrespect, but I will say a massively huge hell no to the idea of us acquiring any more big men who are 6'9" or under.

I was OK with it when we took Mickey because he was a late selection, and the talents he offered (rebounding, shot blocking, athleticism, and a decent jumper) was pretty appealing so late in the draft.

But aside from that, I am honestly getting sick and tired of seeing us constantly bring in a never ending stream of six-nine-and-under big men.  Sully, Jerebko, Bass, Lee, Mickey, Jeff Green (he played PF at times), etc. 

In rare cases where we have brought in 7 footers, it's been ones who either play a soft/finesse game (Olynyk, Zeller) or ones who are utterly lacking in talent (Collins, Hollins, Troy Murphy). 

I feels like a decade since we had a big on this team who actually had the size and game of a big.  I'll make an exception with Simmons because at the very least his value as an asset is sky high, and he could potentially bring back a star in a trade if he doesn't look like a good fit at the start. 

But Chriss is not highly valued around the league as an asset, and I'm just not interested in bringing in another undersized big man.

Everybody, especially Danny, would LOVE to draft a big man that's not undersized, has well developed skills, and is extremely athletic

The problem is that players like that are rare, and they haven't been available when we've drafted or been available in trades.  Players don't give up really talented big men unless they have to, and even then they want a king's ransom

Of course, I totally understand that. 

But in this draft if you landed a top 3 pick, why would you go with Chriss over Dragan Bender??  I'm not as high on Bender as most people, but he does give us the size and rim protection we so desperately need, he's mobile enough to defend the P&R, he's an excellent passer, and he has the potential to develop a nice jumper.

He could pretty much become the perfect fit for us at the center spot. 

Even if we fell out of the top 3, I'd rather go for Poeltl.  He fills a need (defense, rebounding, size, toughness) and also seems like the type of guy Danny loves (with his toughness, physicality, motor and work ethic). 

I don't see any star potential in him, but he could be a very effective starter (think: Omer Asik) and could bring some of that "Perk" toughness back to Boston.

That said I would still go for quality over fit with a pick that high in the draft and so I'd go for guys like Buddy Hield, Jamal Murray, Kris Dunn, Malik Beasley, Jaylen Brown and even Korkmaz is intriguing.