Jaylen Brown vs Andrew Wiggins

[Tr1boy]

Remember when Wyc said two drafts ago he was hoping that we can add another Canadian player/prospect (hinting at Wiggins). 

How do you feel Brown as a comparison? 

Wiggins does have a better jump shot at the same age but Brown's is not bad.  He might have to resort to using it more at the pro level  and can get better.   Brown is better at finishing around the basket/through contact.    Wiggins a tad more explosive. 

Both players don't have the highest IQ level. But their athletcism/explosiveness is at top level. They can "get" away with doing many things on the court because of it

Brown vs Wiggins?

[Evantime34]

I think at best Brown is a poor man's Wiggin's. In college, Wiggins was a better shooter, a better defender, and a better athlete.

I'm open to the argument that Brown's college system was a lot more limiting to his skillset than Wiggins' was at Kansas.

[Big333223]

Seems like Brown is a different kind of player. He's an inch shorter than Wiggins but outweighs him by 20 pounds. He can come into the NBA and play more physical and probably guard some 4's. He's gotta learn how to shoot but Wiggins shot under .300 from 3 this season so Wiggins sort of still has to learn the same thing.

I don't want the C's reaching to get him but I do like the idea of sending out Brown and Crowder playing both forward spots interchangeably and locking people up for the next decade. But there are a handful of other guys I'd much rather get in the draft, especially if we wind up top 3.

[Who]

I was thinking about the same comparison myself last night.

Wiggins has the better jump-shot and could slot into an NBA offense better immediately as a rookie than Jaylen Brown can. Jaylen Brown has better ball-handling skills which could give him a higher ceiling in terms of shot-creation long term.

Both guys great at getting to the rim, finishing and/or getting to the line. Both excel in transition. Both guys have excellent defensive potential and are both plus rebounders. Wiggins a superior athlete but Brown very impressive in his own right.

[CFAN38]

Wiggins is taller, slightly more explosive, a better defender and has a much better jump shot

Brown is stronger and better off the dribble.


I'm not big into player comps but I would say the best comp for Brown would be Lance Stephenson. Brown is taller 6'5.5 without shoes vs 6'4.5" and has a 7' wingspan vs 6'10. Style wise they are both aggressive attack the basket off the dribble wings.


The little I have seen I would say Timothe Luwawu would be a better comp for Wiggins all be at a lower end prospect. The are similar size and build and Luwawu appears like more of a jump shooting wing.

[Tr1boy]

Wiggins is taller, slightly more explosive, a better defender and has a much better jump shot

Brown is stronger and better off the dribble.


I'm not big into player comps but I would say the best comp for Brown would be Lance Stephenson. Brown is taller 6'5.5 without shoes vs 6'4.5" and has a 7' wingspan vs 6'10. Style wise they are both aggressive attack the basket off the dribble wings.


The little I have seen I would say Timothe Luwawu would be a better comp for Wiggins all be at a lower end prospect. The are similar size and build and Luwawu appears like more of a jump shooting wing.

Brown is closer to Wiggins vs Stephenson imo
Stephenson is not really explosive.  Strong and I mean could dunk, but he is mainly a below the rim mini bulldog type

Brown is often seen above the rim , rebounding the ball or dunking or finishing  above taller guys

That 7'0 wingspan is elite length for a sf too.  Same as Wiggins.    But Wiggins for some reason looks even longer (minus the one inch height adv).  Longer reach.

[knuckleballer]

I don't think they are similar players.  Wiggins was a tentative, finesse player who was very skilled, but lacked the confidence to put his natural gifts to use.  Brown is the opposite of that.  He's a confident, physically imposing, agressive player who takes advantage of his athleticism, but lacks skills. 

I'm curious about Brown as a possibilty for the Celtics as he's the type of slashing, scoring, athletic SF we could use.  Whether or not he develops NBA skills: ball handling, better form on his shot, and a better feel for the game is anyone's guess.  He's a high ceiling, low floor kind of guy.

[CFAN38]

Wiggins is taller, slightly more explosive, a better defender and has a much better jump shot

Brown is stronger and better off the dribble.


I'm not big into player comps but I would say the best comp for Brown would be Lance Stephenson. Brown is taller 6'5.5 without shoes vs 6'4.5" and has a 7' wingspan vs 6'10. Style wise they are both aggressive attack the basket off the dribble wings.


The little I have seen I would say Timothe Luwawu would be a better comp for Wiggins all be at a lower end prospect. The are similar size and build and Luwawu appears like more of a jump shooting wing.

Brown is closer to Wiggins vs Stephenson imo
Stephenson is not really explosive.  Strong and I mean could dunk, but he is mainly a below the rim mini bulldog type

Brown is often seen above the rim , rebounding the ball or dunking or finishing  above taller guys

That 7'0 wingspan is elite length for a sf too.  Same as Wiggins.    But Wiggins for some reason looks even longer (minus the one inch height adv).  Longer reach.

I am not claiming they are the exact same player but Browns skill set and tendencies are similar to Stephenson then Wiggins. Where Wiggins in college mainly settled for jump shots over defenders Brown like Stephenson often times looks for his shot by creating off the dribble at the top of the key and bulldozing his way to the rim. If the finishing move is a dunk or a layup the fact still remains that they both are primarily physical perpetrators.  In terms of rebounding they are statistically identical.

[Denis998]

I think Brown is the single biggest question mark in this draft. I have no idea what his nba role/development will be. Tyreke Evans?

[footey]

Brown is my 2nd favorite after Ingram. Would be happy to select him with our Nets pick.

[CFAN38]

I think Brown is the single biggest question mark in this draft. I have no idea what his nba role/development will be. Tyreke Evans?

I would agree he may fall into the Evans / Stephenson player niche. For that matter Marcus Smart coming out of college was also in that grouping. Positional strong ball dominate bowling ball perpetrators who lack a consistent outside shot. Where Smart is the 1/2 version of this player, Evans and Stephenson the 2/3 version and Brown maybe the 3 version. Looking back Royce White was actually the 4 version of this type of player. To some extent Lebron is the apex of this niche possessing such over whelming strength/explosiveness that he can dominate with a sometimes suspect outside shot .  Without developing an outside shot he will need shooters around him to truly succeed with an outside shot to keep defenders closing out and honest he can be a special scoring threat.

[Csfan1984]

Like Brown but Wiggins is another level. Brown could be like Winslow with actually more upside though so I can see DA and his staff liking Brown at 5-8 range.

[alldaboston]

Brown is Danny's kinda player. It'd suck, but I could see Danny taking him top 2...

Remember, Danny wanted Winslow 4th last year. He wasn't trading up to get Porzingis. I hope we don't mess up and take Brown with either of Simmons/Ingram on the board.

[Tr1boy]

I think Brown is the single biggest question mark in this draft. I have no idea what his nba role/development will be. Tyreke Evans?

I would agree he may fall into the Evans / Stephenson player niche. For that matter Marcus Smart coming out of college was also in that grouping. Positional strong ball dominate bowling ball perpetrators who lack a consistent outside shot. Where Smart is the 1/2 version of this player, Evans and Stephenson the 2/3 version and Brown maybe the 3 version. Looking back Royce White was actually the 4 version of this type of player. To some extent Lebron is the apex of this niche possessing such over whelming strength/explosiveness that he can dominate with a sometimes suspect outside shot .  Without developing an outside shot he will need shooters around him to truly succeed with an outside shot to keep defenders closing out and honest he can be a special scoring threat.

Smart does not have Brown's quickness nor leaping ability. Makes a difference at the next level.  Actually at times Brown's capabilities looked suffocated in college ball. Could flourish in a more open court NBA environment

Another comparison that comes to mind Derozan. Who wouldn't want a Derozan type player on their team

I understand brown tendencies , bulldoze, strength might look like in line with Stephenson and Evans. But they are different players. Brown is like a true sf.  Stephenson and Evans are SG.  The way they handle the ball, pass. And evans is a pure below the rim player

NBA draft has brown compared to Jason Richardson. Which is a pretty good one actually

The pt of this topic was , we don't really have a guy like Wiggins, Brown in our lineup.  These guys could do incredible things most players can't do (lack physical tools).   That one dunk in transition (to light up the crowed) or drive to basket and 1 could be a game changer

[footey]

Brown is Danny's kinda player. It'd suck, but I could see Danny taking him top 2...

Remember, Danny wanted Winslow 4th last year. He wasn't trading up to get Porzingis. I hope we don't mess up and take Brown with either of Simmons/Ingram on the board.

We don't know this. Doubtful Ainge favored Winslow over Porzingis in draft.