Author Topic: Down to 3 potential 1st round playoff matchups? (Read 2550 times)

celticsclay · « **on:** April 04, 2016, 01:37:17 PM »

So unless I am missing something (and TP for correcting me if this is wrong), but it seems like we are pretty much 90-95%% locked in to playing one of 3 teams in the first round. Charlotte, Atlanta or Miami. There is a pretty good separation between these 3 teams (and us) and the currently 7 and 8 seeded the Pistons and Pacers (4 full games with 5 or 6 games left for every team). Basically for us to play any one besides the 3 teams mentioned they would have to win out all their games and one of these 4 teams would have to lose out all their. I'm confused as to why we are seeing so many people discuss how we match up with the Pacers or Pistons when we are extremely unlikely to play them in the playoffs. Am I missing something?

MJohnnyboy · « **Reply #1 on:** April 04, 2016, 01:42:42 PM »

Quote from: celticsclay on April 04, 2016, 01:37:17 PM

So unless I am missing something (and TP for correcting me if this is wrong), but it seems like we are pretty much 90-95%% locked in to playing one of 3 teams in the first round. Charlotte, Atlanta or Miami. There is a pretty good separation between these 3 teams (and us) and the currently 7 and 8 seeded the Pistons and Pacers (4 full games with 5 or 6 games left for every team). Basically for us to play any one besides the 3 teams mentioned they would have to win out all their games. I'm confused as to why we are seeing so many people discuss how we match up with the Pacers or Pistons when we are extremely unlikely to play them in the playoffs. Am I missing something?

The question was who would we not want to play besides the Cavaliers and the Raptors. Even if it's not likely that we play the Pacers or the Pistons, there is still the possibility we face them in the post-season anyway, hence why people (including me) brought them up.

It isn't likely, but it could still happen. It was more a matter of just answering the question honestly. I for one would NOT like to face the Pistons in the playoffs. Even if that's probably not going to happen, I wouldn't like the match-up if it does regardless.

saltlover · « **Reply #2 on:** April 04, 2016, 01:52:04 PM »

Miami still has two games vs. the Pistons, so it isn't inconceivable that Detroit could catch them. The Pistons would probably have to win out, but that would give Miami two of the four losses they'd need in such a scenario. Other than that it's tough to see someone from the 3-6 range falling to 7 or 8. But Pistons at 6, while unlikely, isn't a crazy notion given the remaining schedule.

celticsclay · « **Reply #3 on:** April 04, 2016, 02:12:37 PM »

Quote from: saltlover on April 04, 2016, 01:52:04 PM

Miami still has two games vs. the Pistons, so it isn't inconceivable that Detroit could catch them. The Pistons would probably have to win out, but that would give Miami two of the four losses they'd need in such a scenario. Other than that it's tough to see someone from the 3-6 range falling to 7 or 8. But Pistons at 6, while unlikely, isn't a crazy notion given the remaining schedule.

The Heat have two games against the Magic as well as a home game against the Bulls and a game against us where we very well could be resting players. If it is a matter of the Heat falling to 7th I don't think they will rest anyone to avoid the Raptors. I am just thinking this is probably actually mathematically less than 1% chance. But we can wait two games until it is official.

saltlover · « **Reply #4 on:** April 04, 2016, 02:27:41 PM »

Quote from: celticsclay on April 04, 2016, 02:12:37 PM

Quote from: saltlover on April 04, 2016, 01:52:04 PM
Miami still has two games vs. the Pistons, so it isn't inconceivable that Detroit could catch them. The Pistons would probably have to win out, but that would give Miami two of the four losses they'd need in such a scenario. Other than that it's tough to see someone from the 3-6 range falling to 7 or 8. But Pistons at 6, while unlikely, isn't a crazy notion given the remaining schedule.

The Heat have two games against the Magic as well as a home game against the Bulls and a game against us where we very well could be resting players. If it is a matter of the Heat falling to 7th I don't think they will rest anyone to avoid the Raptors. I am just thinking this is probably actually mathematically less than 1% chance. But we can wait two games until it is official.

I think the math is more than 1%, although maybe not much more admittedly. If the Pistons win out (which is doable considering their opponents are Orlando, Washington and Cleveland on the last day, in addition to Miami), the Heat would have to go 3-1 or 4-0 in their non-Pistons games. If we said the Pistons had a 10% chance of running the table, and Miami was 50% likely to go 3-1 in their non-Pistons games, I guess it would be a 5% chance. Maybe that's giving the Pistons too much credit -- in either case the Pistons need to win at Miami to have any shot at all of moving up to the 6 line.

SHAQATTACK · « **Reply #5 on:** April 04, 2016, 03:23:17 PM »

Please let some body else play LeBron all Star team and THEIR NBA flunkie refs they have in their back pockets.

If NOT for the blatant favoritism LeBron , Irving get ......I think Celtics could win in game where fouls and plays were called 50/50"....even for the WHOLE game ...... But that ain't happen n .

So let some other team deal with the frustration first of the favoritism .

jpotter33 · « **Reply #6 on:** April 04, 2016, 04:32:26 PM »

I saw some playoff predictor stat earlier today that said that we're most likely to play Charlotte, with Atlanta and Miami coming in second and third, respectively. Now, I don't know if that means in the 4-5 position or in the 3-6 position, but ideally it'd be the latter of the two. Here's my perfect playoff seedings breakdown:

(1) Cleveland vs. (8 ) Detroit (Detroit leads the series 2-1 over the Cavs this year and will make it a difficult first round for them, though I still expect them to ultimately win it in 6 or 7 games.)

(2) Toronto vs. (7) Indiana (I think the Raptors would win pretty easily over Indiana in five or six games.)

(3) Boston vs. (6) Charlotte (I think we'd handle Charlotte pretty easily in five or six games.)

(4) Atlanta vs. (5) Miami (I think this would be a bloodbath of a first round series going six or seven games, and I think Miami would ultimately take them.)

(1) Cleveland vs. (5) Miami (I think Miami has a really good shot of knocking off Cleveland here (up 2-1 in season series), especially if Detroit makes Cleveland work in the first series. I'm going to say Miami in 6 with Lebron missing a game-tying jumper in Miami at the buzzer

)

(2) Toronto vs. (3) Boston (I think this would also be a really good series, especially given the fact that Toronto has a tendency to blow playoff series. I still like our matchup with them, and I give our depth and defense the advantage over them in six or seven games.)

(3) Boston vs. (5) Miami (I also REALLY like our matchup against Miami, because A) they are older and struggle against our physicality, energy, and style, B) we have the personnel to spread out Whiteside down low, and C)we have the perimeter defense to slow down their main scoring threats. We've swept them so far this year, and I'd expect us to win a series against them, especially having home court advantage.)

Then we'd probably lose in 5 games to the Warriors lol

lefty12 · « **Reply #7 on:** April 04, 2016, 05:55:24 PM »

Wow. That wasn't written with green ink was it?

How bout every series in east going 6or 7 games with home court team winning

You have 3 road teams winning a series. It just doesn't happen

jpotter33 · « **Reply #8 on:** April 04, 2016, 06:49:21 PM »

Quote from: lefty12 on April 04, 2016, 05:55:24 PM

Wow. That wasn't written with green ink was it?

How bout every series in east going 6or 7 games with home court team winning

You have 3 road teams winning a series. It just doesn't happen

You mind telling me which road team win series is out of the question?

Miami over Atlanta? Miami is 3-1 over Atlanta this year, and they have the overall best player on the court.

Miami over Cleveland? Miami is 2-1 over Cleveland this year, and they seem to matchup pretty well with Cleveland.

Boston over Toronto? Sure, Toronto is 3-1 over us this year, but two of those games were early in the year before we hit our groove and when they had Carroll. The other two games we're 1-1 with them, and we didn't have Jae for one or both of them, though they didn't have Lowry play this last one either. Further, given that this Toronto team has choked in the playoffs the last two years, I don't think is upsetting them is out of the question at all.

So, no, I don't think this is outrageous or out of the question at all. And if you notice I said in the comment itself that this would be the "perfect playoff seedlings," because it would be so beneficial and ideal for us, which also lead to having three road series wins.

Hemingway · « **Reply #9 on:** April 05, 2016, 12:22:44 AM »

So the real question is rank Cha, Mia and Atl be how beatable they are for us in the first round.

Ilikesports17 · « **Reply #10 on:** April 05, 2016, 12:58:15 AM »

Quote from: jpotter33 on April 04, 2016, 06:49:21 PM

Quote from: lefty12 on April 04, 2016, 05:55:24 PM
Wow. That wasn't written with green ink was it?

How bout every series in east going 6or 7 games with home court team winning

You have 3 road teams winning a series. It just doesn't happen

You mind telling me which road team win series is out of the question?

Miami over Atlanta? Miami is 3-1 over Atlanta this year, and they have the overall best player on the court.

Miami over Cleveland? Miami is 2-1 over Cleveland this year, and they seem to matchup pretty well with Cleveland.

Boston over Toronto? Sure, Toronto is 3-1 over us this year, but two of those games were early in the year before we hit our groove and when they had Carroll. The other two games we're 1-1 with them, and we didn't have Jae for one or both of them, though they didn't have Lowry play this last one either. Further, given that this Toronto team has choked in the playoffs the last two years, I don't think is upsetting them is out of the question at all.

So, no, I don't think this is outrageous or out of the question at all. And if you notice I said in the comment itself that this would be the "perfect playoff seedlings," because it would be so beneficial and ideal for us, which also lead to having three road series wins.

Miami over Cleveland would be shocking to say the least.

Boston over Toronto would require another Toronto choke job.

TheSundanceKid · « **Reply #11 on:** April 05, 2016, 02:31:20 AM »

Quote from: jpotter33 on April 04, 2016, 06:49:21 PM

Quote from: lefty12 on April 04, 2016, 05:55:24 PM
Wow. That wasn't written with green ink was it?

How bout every series in east going 6or 7 games with home court team winning

You have 3 road teams winning a series. It just doesn't happen

You mind telling me which road team win series is out of the question?

Miami over Atlanta? Miami is 3-1 over Atlanta this year, and they have the overall best player on the court.

Miami over Cleveland? Miami is 2-1 over Cleveland this year, and they seem to matchup pretty well with Cleveland.

Boston over Toronto? Sure, Toronto is 3-1 over us this year, but two of those games were early in the year before we hit our groove and when they had Carroll. The other two games we're 1-1 with them, and we didn't have Jae for one or both of them, though they didn't have Lowry play this last one either. Further, given that this Toronto team has choked in the playoffs the last two years, I don't think is upsetting them is out of the question at all.

So, no, I don't think this is outrageous or out of the question at all. And if you notice I said in the comment itself that this would be the "perfect playoff seedlings," because it would be so beneficial and ideal for us, which also lead to having three road series wins.

Miami over Cleveland would be a big upset. Boston over Toronto would be an even bigger upset. We match up terribly with them.

I think I'd actually prefer us to face Cleveland in the 2nd round. So have us and Charlotte at 4 and 5. I think the refs will be less biased in the 2 nd round and we will have a nothing to lose attitude

mgent · « **Reply #12 on:** April 05, 2016, 11:49:00 AM »

CHA most desirable, then ATL, then MIA.

TheTruthFot18 · « **Reply #13 on:** April 05, 2016, 01:31:48 PM »

1. Compared to the rest Charlotte looks the easiest.
2. ATL looks beatable in 7. They just don't seem to have it as much as last year.
3. I don't want Miami. I can easily see us at 4 vs. Miami at 5 and losing in 5-6. I think they have enough talent at the 1-3 to overpower us. 1-3 is where we are strong and I don't like that matchup for 7 games.

slamtheking · « **Reply #14 on:** April 05, 2016, 01:53:35 PM »

I think the seedings will end up like this:
1. Cle
2. Tor
3. Atl
4. Char
5. Bos
6. Miami
7. Indy
8. Det

Cle vs Det --> Cleveland in 5
Tor vs Indy --> Indy in 5
Atl vs Heat --> Atl in 7 with Bosh and Wade. Atl in 5 if they miss games
Char vs Bos --> Bos in 6 (best possible matchup for Bos as far as I can see)

Cle vs Bos --> Cle in 5 (Bos unable to keep Cleveland off the boards or get a break from the refs)
Tor vs Atl --> Tor in 7 (bloodbath but Tor's deeper team prevails)

Cle vs Tor --> Cle in 7 (Bron gets the breaks as he always does on his way to the finals but Tor makes him work for it)

Cle loses in the finals (thankfully) to whomever comes out of the West.

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