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Re: smart or rozier
« Reply #15 on: March 21, 2016, 10:49:44 PM »

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Guys, I love Smart, but his offense does suck, a lot.

Rozier..... it doesn't take long to notice this guy has superior speed and handles.  He can get into the paint with ease.  He can create open looks for others.

I really like Smart, but Smart lacks some basic NBA skills that Rozier definitely excels in.  Speed, dribbling, and passing.

Re: smart or rozier
« Reply #16 on: March 21, 2016, 10:55:12 PM »

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Guys, I love Smart, but his offense does suck, a lot.

Rozier..... it doesn't take long to notice this guy has superior speed and handles.  He can get into the paint with ease.  He can create open looks for others.

I really like Smart, but Smart lacks some basic NBA skills that Rozier definitely excels in.  Speed, dribbling, and passing.

Smart is an excellent passer, both in the half-court and on outlet passes leading to fast breaks.

Re: smart or rozier
« Reply #17 on: March 22, 2016, 12:54:47 AM »

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Before Crowder started playing so well it was Smart who got the plaudits for being a driving force and inspiration to other players, at least in terms of attitude and effort. His offense is a work in progress which seems to have been inconsistent or stagnant recently.

If I had to answer the question in terms of, who would be the best long term keeper if you could only keep one, I would give Smart the edge as he has shown he can perform great D and has a determination which helps get others going. Rozier's ceiling is unknowable right now. In six months this could all change - especially if Smart doesn't improve on offense. Right now though Smart is much more important to the team and rebuild.

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« Reply #18 on: March 22, 2016, 01:03:39 AM »

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Guys, I love Smart, but his offense does suck, a lot.

Rozier..... it doesn't take long to notice this guy has superior speed and handles.  He can get into the paint with ease.  He can create open looks for others.

I really like Smart, but Smart lacks some basic NBA skills that Rozier definitely excels in.  Speed, dribbling, and passing.

Smart is an excellent passer, both in the half-court and on outlet passes leading to fast breaks.
+1 I think Smart is a better passer.

Re: smart or rozier
« Reply #19 on: March 22, 2016, 01:07:25 AM »

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Smart need to learn how to score at the rim. If he cant learn (and Im not sure thats a particularly easy thing to learn) his ceiling will really be capped.

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« Reply #20 on: March 22, 2016, 01:50:43 AM »

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Encourage others to watch highlights of Smart at OK St. I recently did and was surprised to see how similar his game is to college days. The only tangible difference seems to be that his size isn't a factor on the offensive end the way that it used to be. I think he can be more successful in the post, but we haven't seen much of him there. Doesn't really seem to fit Brad's scheme.
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« Reply #21 on: March 22, 2016, 01:53:43 AM »

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Encourage others to watch highlights of Smart at OK St. I recently did and was surprised to see how similar his game is to college days. The only tangible difference seems to be that his size isn't a factor on the offensive end the way that it used to be. I think he can be more successful in the post, but we haven't seen much of him there. Doesn't really seem to fit Brad's scheme.

I did so a few weeks ago, and I have to say, even in highlights this kid took a lot of bad shots.
I could very well see the Hawks... starting Taurean Prince at the 3, who is already better than Crowder, imo.

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Re: smart or rozier
« Reply #22 on: March 22, 2016, 02:13:16 AM »

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Smart, he has proven to at least defend at an elite level, run the offense at an NBA level. Rozier, while he looks good with his explosiveness and hustle, is still isnt a good passer. Telegraphs his passes still too much. Rozier is the quicker, more explosive athlete while Smart is the stronger bigger one. No reason why it has to be OR. You can have them both and in a few years, play them together.

This thread seems to be a magnet for Smart-hating, with people jumping at whatever chance they get to bash Smart.

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« Reply #23 on: March 22, 2016, 06:48:47 AM »

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last night i saw something that made me wow and almost applaud-
it was not him navigating the paint or shooting but a consistent few moments of pure lateral speed   where he was faster than the man he was guarding-now that was elite
-it was like a huge dunk or dagger three
i finally saw what i needed to see-great draft danny

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« Reply #24 on: March 22, 2016, 07:56:17 AM »

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smart needs to work on his game of getting to the rim and scoring that way. penty of NBA players have been "so so" at the three and still been all-stars scoring due to their driving ability. Wade being one of them.

smart sitting out at the 3 point line not driving and shooting up 3's is not good offense. With his bulky body type, he should be able to at least draw fouls driving to the hoop.

hes impressive defensively, but maybe im abit selfish that I want more from our #6 pick..

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« Reply #25 on: March 22, 2016, 08:21:44 AM »

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smart needs to work on his game of getting to the rim and scoring that way. penty of NBA players have been "so so" at the three and still been all-stars scoring due to their driving ability. Wade being one of them.

smart sitting out at the 3 point line not driving and shooting up 3's is not good offense. With his bulky body type, he should be able to at least draw fouls driving to the hoop.

hes impressive defensively, but maybe im abit selfish that I want more from our #6 pick..

Smart seems to have made a concerted effort to drive more often; unfortunately this isn't translating to a higher shooting percentage. While he seems able to get by his man on the dribble, he often seems to pick up the ball to early when he jumps and is unable to get a clear shot at the hoop. He needs to work on drawing contact in a more intuitive way (he gets very few calls) and also finding a way to get his shot at the rim, not falling away in mid-air just hoping the floater (or whatever) will fall.

Threes are a different story and I have a feeling he has been told just to take any open three he has. He is still learning to be an NBA offensive player, which makes a lot of us impatient since he is already an amazing defensive talent.

Re: smart or rozier
« Reply #26 on: March 22, 2016, 09:15:03 AM »

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Marcus is still in search of just where his best opportunities are on offense in the NBA. He's having a difficult time finding his path.

In college his physicality gave him an advantage in his scoring on offense. I was easy for him to bull his way into the paint and get to the rim, and score. In the NBA everyone is bigger, longer, stronger, and more talented. He now has to settle for getting into the paint, and dumping the ball to the open shooter man, or taking long 3's.

Unfortunately this will not lead to points scored, not unless his outside shooting improves dramatically.

Rozier, and his game is based more on speed, quickness, ball handling, he looks to be able to get to the rim quite easy, due to his athletic ability and speed, his defense will be strong, as he learns the NBA game.

By next year Rozier will force the Celtics to make a decision on who will be the point guard of the future.

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« Reply #27 on: March 22, 2016, 09:38:20 AM »

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Is this really a thread?  One is #6 pick overall who plays big minutes for a playoff team.  The other is a mid first rounder that most people thought might slide to the second who has barely played all year and spent most of his time in the D-League. 

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« Reply #28 on: March 22, 2016, 09:42:03 AM »

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Is this really a thread?  One is #6 pick overall who plays big minutes for a playoff team.  The other is a mid first rounder that most people thought might slide to the second who has barely played all year and spent most of his time in the D-League.
Of course its a thread.  ;)

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« Reply #29 on: March 22, 2016, 09:43:30 AM »

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Is this really a thread?  One is #6 pick overall who plays big minutes for a playoff team.  The other is a mid first rounder that most people thought might slide to the second who has barely played all year and spent most of his time in the D-League.
Of course its a thread.  ;)

I'm sure the "Prime KG v. Jordan Mickey" one isn't too far behind.  ;)


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