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Re: Current interest in K Love?
« Reply #15 on: January 24, 2016, 01:37:02 AM »

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Here's an article referring to what OP was talking about with the rumored Thomas/Morris for Love deal:  http://www.fearthesword.com/2016/1/21/10811424/report-cavaliers-considered-trading-kevin-love-to-suns-last-season

Re: Current interest in K Love?
« Reply #16 on: January 24, 2016, 02:57:03 AM »

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He hasn't been good for a year and a half, but he was putting up HISTORIC numbers in Minnesota, and we are very quick to forget that. Right now he's playing like a glorified Ryan Anderson with a massive contract. I'd be willing to "overpay" for him if he's valued as such, but we cannot offer even half as much as Cleveland got for him.

I don't think you can say that. He's still been very good for Cleveland. He's just not getting enough shots, and the shots he's getting are not in the places he got shots in Minny.
Statistically,  if we were given the same amount of shots that he got in minny, he'd be scoring 26 points and 12 rebounds a game.
"We are lucky we have a very patient GM that isn't willing to settle for being good and coming close. He wants to win a championship and we have the potential to get there still with our roster and assets."

quoting 'Greg B' on RealGM after 2017 trade deadline.
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Re: Current interest in K Love?
« Reply #17 on: January 24, 2016, 04:29:16 AM »

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I'd love to have Love in Boston. The best thing is that he would fit here better than in most other NBA teams as he provides much of what we want (a good big man, scoring, passing skills...). Now that his stocks are low, if the Cavs decide to sell, we might finally be in a good position to buy.

Having said this, are the Cavs willing to sell? Are they silly enough to trade away an All Star caliber player during the worst season he had for years? They sacrificed a nr 1 pick to get him for crying out loud.

There are more issues with the original post.

1/ There is really no indication the Cavs want to move away from Love. At this stage, it would be an open admission of defeat - not only admitting that the Wiggins-Love trade was a mistake but also that p much all the moves their front office did the last couple of years  was beating the air.

2/ Their incentives (salary cap wise) are minimal. Since they've decided to go over the top with spending for the chance to win a title -it matters very little to them if Love does not produce according to the money he gets.
And this brings me to the other point, that a Sully + IT trade for Love would not work anyway bcs of the salaries (remember, Cleveland is over the salary cap).
Also, why on Earth would the Cavs want Sully (they have Thompson) and IT? Is IT so much an improvement over Mo Williams that they will give Love for him? After all, whoever is that other PG, he will be sitting on the bench. (Unless you think the Cavs want more ball handlers among their starting five in addition to Kyrie and LBJ.) In the final analysis, we all know the problem of the Cavs is not that they lack talent or a specific player, so why do they need a trade anyway?

As of now, Love in Boston is just wishful thinking.

Re: Current interest in K Love?
« Reply #18 on: January 24, 2016, 04:29:51 AM »

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He'd be great here but I'd rather have IT than Love. I don't do a trade if IT is involved. Not for his production and contract currently.

Only interested without IT, tempting as getting Love in here would be Isaiah Thomas is now the team's leader and dealing him would be a greater loss that what would be gained by Love. Litteraly ok with any other non Marcus Smart scenario.

Bradley, Crowder, Sullinger/Olynyk, Brooklyn 1st, can all be replaced (I'm higher on this draft than most but I'd take a prime Love over anyone in 2016 including Ben Simmons)Smart and IT can not be replaced. Bradley-->Terry Rozier. Crowder -->Evan Turner +FA(Batum?). Sullinger/Olynyk ---> Love /Mickey. Top 3 pick -> Brooklyn 2017 +2018 pick(possibly weaker picks in supposedly stronger drafts)

Fwiw if Cleveland played tonight's game with Sullinger Bradley and/or Crowder instead of Love they probably would have won.

Re: Current interest in K Love?
« Reply #19 on: January 24, 2016, 07:18:30 AM »

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I would only sign Love as a free agent. Any trades would gut our roster of the progress we've made thus far for a piece Minnesota has shown you can't build a contender around.

IT4 can be helped on D by bringing in a bona-fide rim protector...  I got my eye on Howard, Dieng and Poeltl.

This team already has most of the pieces we need and the others i can see us getting in this year's draft. So I'm a big hell no on Love

Re: Current interest in K Love?
« Reply #20 on: January 24, 2016, 08:10:29 AM »

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I would only sign Love as a free agent. Any trades would gut our roster of the progress we've made thus far for a piece Minnesota has shown you can't build a contender around.

IT4 can be helped on D by bringing in a bona-fide rim protector...  I got my eye on Howard, Dieng and Poeltl.

This team already has most of the pieces we need and the others i can see us getting in this year's draft. So I'm a big hell no on Love

except a top 20 player like Kevin Love?

"We are lucky we have a very patient GM that isn't willing to settle for being good and coming close. He wants to win a championship and we have the potential to get there still with our roster and assets."

quoting 'Greg B' on RealGM after 2017 trade deadline.
Read that last line again. One more time.

Re: Current interest in K Love?
« Reply #21 on: January 24, 2016, 08:29:33 AM »

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No to IT for Love. But they probably really want according to media there the C's wing defenders.
AB, Crowder and Jerekbo for Love
or
Smart, AJ and Crowder for Love and Moz

There are no picks needed in those deals. You end up with
IT, AB, Turner, Love, Moz
Or
IT, Smart, Turner, Love, AJ

How would people feel about those two deals based on media there?

Re: Current interest in K Love?
« Reply #22 on: January 24, 2016, 08:56:52 AM »

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I'd love to have Love in Boston. The best thing is that he would fit here better than in most other NBA teams as he provides much of what we want (a good big man, scoring, passing skills...). Now that his stocks are low, if the Cavs decide to sell, we might finally be in a good position to buy.

Having said this, are the Cavs willing to sell? Are they silly enough to trade away an All Star caliber player during the worst season he had for years? They sacrificed a nr 1 pick to get him for crying out loud.

There are more issues with the original post.

1/ There is really no indication the Cavs want to move away from Love. At this stage, it would be an open admission of defeat - not only admitting that the Wiggins-Love trade was a mistake but also that p much all the moves their front office did the last couple of years  was beating the air.

2/ Their incentives (salary cap wise) are minimal. Since they've decided to go over the top with spending for the chance to win a title -it matters very little to them if Love does not produce according to the money he gets.
And this brings me to the other point, that a Sully + IT trade for Love would not work anyway bcs of the salaries (remember, Cleveland is over the salary cap).
Also, why on Earth would the Cavs want Sully (they have Thompson) and IT? Is IT so much an improvement over Mo Williams that they will give Love for him? After all, whoever is that other PG, he will be sitting on the bench. (Unless you think the Cavs want more ball handlers among their starting five in addition to Kyrie and LBJ.) In the final analysis, we all know the problem of the Cavs is not that they lack talent or a specific player, so why do they need a trade anyway?

As of now, Love in Boston is just wishful thinking.

Love would have a bigger role and impact that on the ISO Diva team LeBron has assembled in Cleveland.

Re: Current interest in K Love?
« Reply #23 on: January 24, 2016, 09:41:14 AM »

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Watched K Love last night.  He looks out of shape and slow.  Still think Ainge should make a deal for him now if at all possible.  I can see them wanted either one of Bradley or Smart.  Their weak at the guard and need a lock down defender.  Dellavadova is horrible and should not even be in the league. He would not make the Red Claws.  JR Smith and Shumpert are not much better.  I think Sullinger and Turner would also be good fits for the Cav's.  Both Ohio State players that can play.  I think Sullinger, Turner and Bradley is enough for the unhappy out of shape Love.  Do not include Isiah.  They got Kylie.  Throw a couple of non Nets first rounders in there or maybe a youngster or two from the Red Claws. Young, Hunter, Rozier or Mickey.  We need to do something as I am losing interest in watching this rollercoaster. 

Re: Current interest in K Love?
« Reply #24 on: January 24, 2016, 09:47:56 AM »

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No go for me...not a fan of his defensive effort at all.

Although he has talent, he's makes too much money.

Re: Current interest in K Love?
« Reply #25 on: January 24, 2016, 09:49:57 AM »

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I don't watch the Cavs but yesterday when I was reading articles about Blatt's firing I found some info about trading Love.    Apparently he's not being used in the 4th quarters.  Wow.  I'd say if Lue continues not using him in the 4th quarters then he'll be traded.  Not sure I'd give up a lot for him though.  Certainly NOT IT.

Re: Current interest in K Love?
« Reply #26 on: January 24, 2016, 10:24:44 AM »

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Wow, this is the first trade proposal I have read in a long time where I am really unsure. I wanted Love when he was on the block last time and I think he would do really well here. I also really like IT. I can remember year after year having new point guards and how painful that was too. I guess I am leaning towards making the deal as when they both are at there best Love is the better player. I'd also be interested to know if the door was left open for Rondo. If we could make this trade and then sign RR we would get back a lot of what we lost in IT.

Maybe we could make it a 3 team deal. Obviously the Cavs don't want picks they want talent. But maybe there is another team that would take pick(s) for some talent CLE would want?

Re: Current interest in K Love?
« Reply #27 on: January 24, 2016, 11:13:18 AM »

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I'd love to have Love in Boston. The best thing is that he would fit here better than in most other NBA teams as he provides much of what we want (a good big man, scoring, passing skills...). Now that his stocks are low, if the Cavs decide to sell, we might finally be in a good position to buy.

Having said this, are the Cavs willing to sell? Are they silly enough to trade away an All Star caliber player during the worst season he had for years? They sacrificed a nr 1 pick to get him for crying out loud.

There are more issues with the original post.

1/ There is really no indication the Cavs want to move away from Love. At this stage, it would be an open admission of defeat - not only admitting that the Wiggins-Love trade was a mistake but also that p much all the moves their front office did the last couple of years  was beating the air.

2/ Their incentives (salary cap wise) are minimal. Since they've decided to go over the top with spending for the chance to win a title -it matters very little to them if Love does not produce according to the money he gets.
And this brings me to the other point, that a Sully + IT trade for Love would not work anyway bcs of the salaries (remember, Cleveland is over the salary cap).
Also, why on Earth would the Cavs want Sully (they have Thompson) and IT? Is IT so much an improvement over Mo Williams that they will give Love for him? After all, whoever is that other PG, he will be sitting on the bench. (Unless you think the Cavs want more ball handlers among their starting five in addition to Kyrie and LBJ.) In the final analysis, we all know the problem of the Cavs is not that they lack talent or a specific player, so why do they need a trade anyway?

As of now, Love in Boston is just wishful thinking.

Love would have a bigger role and impact that on the ISO Diva team LeBron has assembled in Cleveland.

Definitely agree. He's been misused in Cleveland whereas in Boston he would fit really well.

Not so sure the will let us have him tho  :(

Players of this caliber are usually traded either if their team completely collapses (Philly trading Holiday for Noel) or if they are on an expiring contract and/or it is known that they won't re-sign (what happened with Love last time, what Danny did with Rondo).

I also read the articles saying //Love not happy in Cleveland// but this is the usual stuff journalists write when they have nothing better to do.

As for LBJ, well yes  ;D

Did you see the video where he says he has nothing to do with the sacking of Blatt and that he was surprised? Hilarious stuff....

Re: Current interest in K Love?
« Reply #28 on: January 24, 2016, 11:32:54 AM »

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I'd love to have Love in Boston. The best thing is that he would fit here better than in most other NBA teams as he provides much of what we want (a good big man, scoring, passing skills...). Now that his stocks are low, if the Cavs decide to sell, we might finally be in a good position to buy.

Having said this, are the Cavs willing to sell? Are they silly enough to trade away an All Star caliber player during the worst season he had for years? They sacrificed a nr 1 pick to get him for crying out loud.

There are more issues with the original post.

1/ There is really no indication the Cavs want to move away from Love. At this stage, it would be an open admission of defeat - not only admitting that the Wiggins-Love trade was a mistake but also that p much all the moves their front office did the last couple of years  was beating the air.

2/ Their incentives (salary cap wise) are minimal. Since they've decided to go over the top with spending for the chance to win a title -it matters very little to them if Love does not produce according to the money he gets.
And this brings me to the other point, that a Sully + IT trade for Love would not work anyway bcs of the salaries (remember, Cleveland is over the salary cap).
Also, why on Earth would the Cavs want Sully (they have Thompson) and IT? Is IT so much an improvement over Mo Williams that they will give Love for him? After all, whoever is that other PG, he will be sitting on the bench. (Unless you think the Cavs want more ball handlers among their starting five in addition to Kyrie and LBJ.) In the final analysis, we all know the problem of the Cavs is not that they lack talent or a specific player, so why do they need a trade anyway?

As of now, Love in Boston is just wishful thinking.

Love would have a bigger role and impact that on the ISO Diva team LeBron has assembled in Cleveland.

Definitely agree. He's been misused in Cleveland whereas in Boston he would fit really well.

Not so sure the will let us have him tho  :(

Players of this caliber are usually traded either if their team completely collapses (Philly trading Holiday for Noel) or if they are on an expiring contract and/or it is known that they won't re-sign (what happened with Love last time, what Danny did with Rondo).

I also read the articles saying //Love not happy in Cleveland// but this is the usual stuff journalists write when they have nothing better to do.

As for LBJ, well yes  ;D

Did you see the video where he says he has nothing to do with the sacking of Blatt and that he was surprised? Hilarious stuff....

Oh yes ....everybody know he is the de facto GM.    LeBron only answers to the owner.   But it's the owners fault for giving him too much power in the first place.  .......so I hope this selfish move comes back to to bite both Cleveland and the it's owners. 

Riley was taking no bull crap off Wade or LeBron.   

I ll be so glade when LeBron is out of the NBA .   

Re: Current interest in K Love?
« Reply #29 on: January 24, 2016, 11:37:50 AM »

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Looks like that Cavs team is about to explode..too much drama and power among players
C/PF-Horford, Baynes, Noel, Theis, Morris,
SF/SG- Tatum, Brown, Hayward, Smart, Semi, Clark
PG- Irving, Rozier, Larkin